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Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

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Justmerach · 19/01/2026 15:47

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
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Justmerach · 08/02/2026 11:11

Parker231 · 08/02/2026 11:05

You don’t seem very accepting that other people can have a different belief system than you?

This member seemed to have questions which I was answering those they seemed to have questions on. It is not about their faith, but about getting what is correct in our scripture. One of the questions they seemed to ask was how can we be God's children etc and I wrote we are adopted children through Christ which is different and used scripture to show that.

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Parker231 · 08/02/2026 11:12

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 11:11

This member seemed to have questions which I was answering those they seemed to have questions on. It is not about their faith, but about getting what is correct in our scripture. One of the questions they seemed to ask was how can we be God's children etc and I wrote we are adopted children through Christ which is different and used scripture to show that.

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Better to accept that everyone has different interpretations which may be contradictory to your own?

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 11:13

Parker231 · 08/02/2026 11:12

Better to accept that everyone has different interpretations which may be contradictory to your own?

There was incorrect information there. This is not about opinion or faith, but just getting right what the scripture actually says.

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Parker231 · 08/02/2026 11:16

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 08:53

I am not worried about the return of Jesus . Being on guard for me that means any time he could return I would have to be in a position that could handle to meet him and be judged. I don’t have to change anything if I don’t need to and just try and be myself and do the same things and be guided by my faith.
There are some people that seem to be watching things all the time and I couldn’t live like this.

I get a bit unsettled when there is unsettling behaviour like with Trump a bit recently I found it a bit unsettling and not the fact that Jesus actually will return. It may not be in my lifetime that he returns. I get a bit reflective sometimes that some people will not be together..

I’m working on the theory that I won’t notice anything happening. Trump claims to be a Christian, perhaps you could take it with you wherever you’re all going.

Id like to start crossing the border again as I like the shopping in Vermont but won’t cross whilst he’s still in office.

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 11:18

Judgejudysno1fan · 08/02/2026 10:23

God is the ultimate judge! Correct. So is jesus peace be upon him, assistant judge?

Some people say that Jesus is like the appointed judge by God the Father and that he has a delegated authority (John 5:22) . .

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Judgejudysno1fan · 08/02/2026 12:32

Ok,.so God adopted us as his children through Christ? so God in all his power had to go through Jesus to adopt us ?

Judgejudysno1fan · 08/02/2026 12:55

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 10:52

@Judgejudysno1fan it seems that you think your prophets are worthy of praise just calling them the word Beloved. Jesus Christ is to be respected and loved and our relationship to Son of God is personal for each person. I grew up with him in primary school in my family knowing he was the Son of God.

Some Muslims like Gulshan Esther became Christians and had healing. They have a best selling book.They said they an encounter with the Holy Spirit. They were encouraged to go on and be baptised. There are many other stories like this of Muslims converting to Christanity and recieving the Holy Spirit. It seems to be quite a number of these people who need help with healing. They live in countries may be where they cannot get the right help.

Jesus said that we need to through him for eternal life-

" Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".

John 14-Jesus it was ok to love him to.

"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him".

"Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.."

W become children of God as Christians through Jesus Christ alone and we are adopted children of God as scripture states through Jesus Christ..

(Ephesians 1:5)- "Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will.”

(Galatians 4:4-7)- "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.”

(John 1:12)- "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God."

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I will never worship a prophet a man as long as I live. I will never see a prophet like Adam, Noah, Joseph,. Jacob, Abraham and his sons, Jonas, zakariya, jesus and Muhammed as.worthy of praise. I see them all as teaching the one message the same message : worship only One God. !!!!!!
i dont know where you got the idea from that i worship prophets. That would be bonkers. Im a muslim and muslim is one who submits their will to God!!!!! Just as Jesus did. ...

The father is simply a term of endearment in the bible. It doesn't mean literally father. Even priests are sometimes called father, my friend. I simply choose the word Beloved as an adjective as I do love them all. Just as much as I love Mary. but I can NOT and will NOT worship men/prophets/statues/idols.

I strongly follow Monotheism. I strongly follow the worship and prayer to one God. I strongly follow the ten commandments. Which is 1) though shall not have any other Gods than me. When we pray through Jesus, our prayers are not answered. Why do we have to go through Jesus. Why cant God hear our prayer? Why cant God forgive? Why do we have ti go through jesus? Why cant our prayers go straight to the father? Why does it have to end in jesus name?

You seem to forget that jesus himself said he got his power from God and the bible said he does not have knowledge of the end of days which shows him and the father are not one.

prophet jesus (peace be with him) came to the world to teach ONLY THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL. AND WHEN HE DID COME HE PREACHED ONENESS OF GOD.
He removed his shoes before prayer.

He washed himself before prayer..
He never touched alcohol or pork.
He was circumcised.

Interestingly all these same things Muslims strictly adhere to. And Jews to some extent. As I know they down booze on their religious festivals. Strange as its banned for them also.

Im well aware jesus is to be respected. He's a mighty prophet in my faith. And I beleive he rose from the dead, healed the blind and performed other miracles but he said i cannot do it on my own, only through him who sent me.

I agree.with jesus being the way and truth and life, fine.
His way of teaching and his way of truth is also what Muslims follow.

Wapentake · 08/02/2026 13:13

Judgejudysno1fan · 08/02/2026 12:55

I will never worship a prophet a man as long as I live. I will never see a prophet like Adam, Noah, Joseph,. Jacob, Abraham and his sons, Jonas, zakariya, jesus and Muhammed as.worthy of praise. I see them all as teaching the one message the same message : worship only One God. !!!!!!
i dont know where you got the idea from that i worship prophets. That would be bonkers. Im a muslim and muslim is one who submits their will to God!!!!! Just as Jesus did. ...

The father is simply a term of endearment in the bible. It doesn't mean literally father. Even priests are sometimes called father, my friend. I simply choose the word Beloved as an adjective as I do love them all. Just as much as I love Mary. but I can NOT and will NOT worship men/prophets/statues/idols.

I strongly follow Monotheism. I strongly follow the worship and prayer to one God. I strongly follow the ten commandments. Which is 1) though shall not have any other Gods than me. When we pray through Jesus, our prayers are not answered. Why do we have to go through Jesus. Why cant God hear our prayer? Why cant God forgive? Why do we have ti go through jesus? Why cant our prayers go straight to the father? Why does it have to end in jesus name?

You seem to forget that jesus himself said he got his power from God and the bible said he does not have knowledge of the end of days which shows him and the father are not one.

prophet jesus (peace be with him) came to the world to teach ONLY THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL. AND WHEN HE DID COME HE PREACHED ONENESS OF GOD.
He removed his shoes before prayer.

He washed himself before prayer..
He never touched alcohol or pork.
He was circumcised.

Interestingly all these same things Muslims strictly adhere to. And Jews to some extent. As I know they down booze on their religious festivals. Strange as its banned for them also.

Im well aware jesus is to be respected. He's a mighty prophet in my faith. And I beleive he rose from the dead, healed the blind and performed other miracles but he said i cannot do it on my own, only through him who sent me.

I agree.with jesus being the way and truth and life, fine.
His way of teaching and his way of truth is also what Muslims follow.

Alcohol isn’t banned for Jews. Wine is a key part of Shabbat ceremonies and the Passover Seder (four cups). Over-consumption is certainly generally frowned on, though there’s a Talmudic tradition you’re supposed to get drunk at Purim.

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 13:24

About the topic of love a forum member in another thread posted this link by CS Lewis that we as human beings have four types of love involving friendship and Charity particularly. This relates to the Christian faith as well.

https://www.cslewis.com/four-types-of-love/

This week at the church it was racial justice Sunday and the youth service took the lead. There is a minister who has an Asian background who was born in Sri Lanka who took a sermon church's are using for this racial justice Sunday and you can download the sermon from the following link if you so wish. They focused this week the youths on the theme of love and this was their way of tackling the topic racial justice by using love to treat it.

Racial Justice Sunday - 8 February 2026 - CTBI

Racial Justice Sunday - 8 February 2026 - CTBI

https://ctbi.org.uk/resources/racial-justice-sunday-8-february-2026/

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Judgejudysno1fan · 08/02/2026 13:30

Wapentake · 08/02/2026 13:13

Alcohol isn’t banned for Jews. Wine is a key part of Shabbat ceremonies and the Passover Seder (four cups). Over-consumption is certainly generally frowned on, though there’s a Talmudic tradition you’re supposed to get drunk at Purim.

I thought it was more like a fruit wine. A non alcoholic version

Wapentake · 08/02/2026 13:44

Judgejudysno1fan · 08/02/2026 13:30

I thought it was more like a fruit wine. A non alcoholic version

No, normal wine, but made according to Kosher methods in terms of handling, ingredients. I mean, some people do drink grape juice at Shabbat, Passover etc — children, dry alcoholics, people who can’t tolerate alcohol for health reasons, but the default is wine.

Judgejudysno1fan · 08/02/2026 14:00

Wapentake · 08/02/2026 13:44

No, normal wine, but made according to Kosher methods in terms of handling, ingredients. I mean, some people do drink grape juice at Shabbat, Passover etc — children, dry alcoholics, people who can’t tolerate alcohol for health reasons, but the default is wine.

Interesting. I thought like islam it was banned. I read that somewhere but now I dont know where.

Wapentake · 08/02/2026 14:06

Judgejudysno1fan · 08/02/2026 14:00

Interesting. I thought like islam it was banned. I read that somewhere but now I dont know where.

The only time I’ve drunk any, it was absolutely revolting — terribly sweet. But I think some American varieties, which this was, add corn syrup or something.

RedTagAlan · 08/02/2026 15:08

Justmerach · 07/02/2026 17:19

I think that may be you might consider starting a thread and getting advice from other parents (or teachers) who had teach their children about religion who didn't go to may be a faith school.

You can still have a broad education and have your faith. I looked at the creation theory at university and didn't think it ruled out there being a creator God. Also I did about the dating of rocks a bit of geology and had a faith. I studied biology in school and had a faith.

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Yeah. You totally missed my point there, and TBH your reply is a bit of a dead stop to the natural direction that conversation would go, but I suppose we can scratch the surface.

Indoctrination is the whole key to religion. My DD has avoided all indoctrination due to location, and because of that, she is very unlikely to become a follower of any western religion. She might decide to follow an eastern religion at some point. And that will be totally her decision.

For you, or anyone, to explain Christianity to accept Christianity as true, would be almost as likely as you converting to Buddhism, or Shinto.

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 17:18

RedTagAlan · 08/02/2026 15:08

Yeah. You totally missed my point there, and TBH your reply is a bit of a dead stop to the natural direction that conversation would go, but I suppose we can scratch the surface.

Indoctrination is the whole key to religion. My DD has avoided all indoctrination due to location, and because of that, she is very unlikely to become a follower of any western religion. She might decide to follow an eastern religion at some point. And that will be totally her decision.

For you, or anyone, to explain Christianity to accept Christianity as true, would be almost as likely as you converting to Buddhism, or Shinto.

I was writing about scripture here primarily that Jesus can be proved to be the Son of God in the scripture.. People was asking for more proof and it extended out about to confirmation of his existence through the Holy Spirit and the fact that Jesus appoints the Holy Spirit gifts means he is with us in Heaven (Ephensians 4)

Your questions are sometimes hard to guess your intent, you don't state your intent always and then reveal your question later why you are asking. It be better to state your intention straight out. I looked at your question and was trying to figure out what you meant, I thought that there could be something underneath by your style at times, but went with what I did and then here you go not being content with the next part me recommending you to parents if interested.

.May be you was indocrinated, I wasn't and many are not.
Youths were taking the service today under 16 and I'm sure not all go to a faith school. Whatever your daughter decides to follow is up to her, it is her life. Generation X is quiet revival they say and in this generation not many of them may be have gone to a faith school. They seem to be seeking it out themselves for increased spirituality and a connection to God.

www.biblesociety.org.uk/research/quiet-revival?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23343412234&gclid=Cj0KCQiAhaHMBhD2ARIsAPAU_D6_m-avhz8vpnaP7Hicm_rtwid4SZN3B1MBxcTHKUlCOZ3J3G4N-IIaAhTPEALw_wcB

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Parker231 · 08/02/2026 17:48

RedTagAlan · 08/02/2026 15:08

Yeah. You totally missed my point there, and TBH your reply is a bit of a dead stop to the natural direction that conversation would go, but I suppose we can scratch the surface.

Indoctrination is the whole key to religion. My DD has avoided all indoctrination due to location, and because of that, she is very unlikely to become a follower of any western religion. She might decide to follow an eastern religion at some point. And that will be totally her decision.

For you, or anyone, to explain Christianity to accept Christianity as true, would be almost as likely as you converting to Buddhism, or Shinto.

My DT’s also avoided the indoctrination by attending a school where religious studies were prohibited. It wasn’t the reason we chose the school but was a contributing factor. They followed an academic but non religious curriculum. Hasn’t done them any harm.

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 21:38

I made an error to RedTagAlan in my last post above or so. I meant Generation Z and not Generation X that has had a quiet revival in the Christian faith recently.

"The most dramatic church growth is among young adults, particularly young men. In 2018, just 4 per cent of 18–24-year-olds said that they attended church at least monthly. Today, says The Quiet Revival, this has risen to 16 per cent, with a notable rise in the proportion of young men attending".

I was trying to think of the Trinity more-may be like there being One God with two annexes of the expression of his work to us and power which have different personhoods God the Son and the God the Spirit..

I will attach what one of my Bible's says on the word Truine and Godhead.

Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
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Parker231 · 08/02/2026 21:52

@Justmerach after reading this thread and all the challenges to the inaccuracies in the scriptures, you still believe it without questioning?

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 21:55

I wanted to share some Bible notes to from one of my Bible's which says about Jesus being the Son of God and some of the different names that he has like Son of Man in the Bible.

You can download this to read and enlarge if you want to.

Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,
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Justmerach · 08/02/2026 22:15

Parker231 · 08/02/2026 21:52

@Justmerach after reading this thread and all the challenges to the inaccuracies in the scriptures, you still believe it without questioning?

There was nothing that I have read that been challenging to my faith and trust in God. Some of the debate was interesting and made me think like the Acts 5 that RedTagAlan mentioned but my faith is doing fine.

On the topic of drinking alcohol and Islam just to let some of you know my cousin is a Muslim and he was born Muslim. My mum’s father was to a Muslim but converted when was a child to a Christianity and took his children to a Catholic church but her brother didn’t and his children most or all are Muslims.

I have been with them when on holiday and they was drinking alcohol. It may be banned in their faith but they prayed and saw themselves as having the faith. There is no division among us.

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Parker231 · 08/02/2026 22:24

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 22:15

There was nothing that I have read that been challenging to my faith and trust in God. Some of the debate was interesting and made me think like the Acts 5 that RedTagAlan mentioned but my faith is doing fine.

On the topic of drinking alcohol and Islam just to let some of you know my cousin is a Muslim and he was born Muslim. My mum’s father was to a Muslim but converted when was a child to a Christianity and took his children to a Catholic church but her brother didn’t and his children most or all are Muslims.

I have been with them when on holiday and they was drinking alcohol. It may be banned in their faith but they prayed and saw themselves as having the faith. There is no division among us.

Suppose it’s the same for me - nothing you have posted has convinced me of any god or credibility. Although am looking forward to seeing what happens on this day of second coming.

Justmerach · 08/02/2026 22:41

Parker231 · 08/02/2026 22:24

Suppose it’s the same for me - nothing you have posted has convinced me of any god or credibility. Although am looking forward to seeing what happens on this day of second coming.

You mentioned I think that you didn't believe in demons. I mentioned to you about the story of the fallen angels and Genesis 6 and Numbers 13 and the giants (Nephilim ). The fallen angels were demons when the world was destroyed.

Some say that this has taken place below and it when the fallen angels were sent out of heaven and some think it hasn't taken place yet.
Revelations 12
""And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

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RedTagAlan · 09/02/2026 01:56

@Justmerach

I have always been painfully honest. Apart from the " Does my bum look big in this ?" type white lies.

What I found after my acts 5 deconversion, is that my honesty got worse, as in more honest. I am pretty near to being a truth absolutist now.

And that comes from my deconversion. Because I went through the five stages of grief while undergoing that, and the "anger" stage was very real. Realizing that Christianity is all a lie, and thinking about who, if anyone, was knowingly lying, and then logically working out that many do not see themselves as lying, because they are lying to themselves.

And other things not connected to religion changed in me. My politics changed slightly for example. Because I thought, "why should I lie to myself about this political Party ? I won't make excuses for them anymore. I refuse to lie to myself. The truth matters more than political ideology.

Now if I am asked a question, I give an honest answer. It likely wont be binary, and sometimes I have to say " I don't know". I apply truth, so far as it can be ascertained. And this makes me much more open to having my mind changed.

No more that feeling of rising frustration inside as I engage in discussions/debates. No more logical fallacies, deflections, avoidance, whataboutisms. Now it's about data, and truth.

When I lost my faith, I gained something. I gained the truth.I also gained genuine (I think) humility.

And when I read what you write OP, it reminds my a bit of how I used to be as a Christian. Ducking and diving to avoid the question. Usually on politics in my case, but the same base premise.

So OP, do you have that feeling of frustration inside when you are presented with a question about Christianity ? The questions you prefer not to answer directly?

Justmerach · 09/02/2026 07:10

RedTagAlan · 09/02/2026 01:56

@Justmerach

I have always been painfully honest. Apart from the " Does my bum look big in this ?" type white lies.

What I found after my acts 5 deconversion, is that my honesty got worse, as in more honest. I am pretty near to being a truth absolutist now.

And that comes from my deconversion. Because I went through the five stages of grief while undergoing that, and the "anger" stage was very real. Realizing that Christianity is all a lie, and thinking about who, if anyone, was knowingly lying, and then logically working out that many do not see themselves as lying, because they are lying to themselves.

And other things not connected to religion changed in me. My politics changed slightly for example. Because I thought, "why should I lie to myself about this political Party ? I won't make excuses for them anymore. I refuse to lie to myself. The truth matters more than political ideology.

Now if I am asked a question, I give an honest answer. It likely wont be binary, and sometimes I have to say " I don't know". I apply truth, so far as it can be ascertained. And this makes me much more open to having my mind changed.

No more that feeling of rising frustration inside as I engage in discussions/debates. No more logical fallacies, deflections, avoidance, whataboutisms. Now it's about data, and truth.

When I lost my faith, I gained something. I gained the truth.I also gained genuine (I think) humility.

And when I read what you write OP, it reminds my a bit of how I used to be as a Christian. Ducking and diving to avoid the question. Usually on politics in my case, but the same base premise.

So OP, do you have that feeling of frustration inside when you are presented with a question about Christianity ? The questions you prefer not to answer directly?

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What you wrote doesn't hold true for me.I do not cover anything up and this is a faith and I try and be respectful. Things spoken of some of them have never been written anywhere and I am not going to be first to start it here in a corner on the internet. I write about data at times and stats.

I think part of the reason that I was given an intervention in 2014 was for purity and humility by God. You can have those with a faith.
Some of the questions here at times were a bit off topic and seemed to be like go and get anything you never had a problem with before, search and post it rather than someone having an issue before.

This thread was really aimed at interested people to the faith and may be Abrahamic faiths, Islam, Christanity and Judaism but it seemed to be taken over by those outside of those faiths thinking they were being left out. It wasn't about them really, it was about scripture and they shouldn't be offended. You have to let things just go on there own route sometimes and it had to as people had past experiences.
.I don't usually post in this forum threads. It has is got a perception of not being very respectful to Christians. Somebody just posted about this question and I read this and a post was closed and I had already written this and decided to post what I wrote it in a new thread. It seemed I would be taking Jesus and putting him here I poundered at first, but decided to do it as he went to all places and then stopped where he wasn't welcome. I am glad that I posted and stuck to my values.

Anyway, I am pleased with the content what was posted.

  1. A ministers sermon on the conscreation of Jesus
  2. A minsters sermon on the birth of Jesus from Joseph's view how it was holy.
  3. A ministers sermon on the Holy Spirit gifts which is how Jesus ministry communicates with his believers today.
  4. A preachers take on the Holy Innocents
  5. Resarch on Racism Sunday
  6. Research on the Quiet Revival
  7. Christianity Art Youtube
  8. Media to Daystar on Youtube on fallen angels
  9. Links to go if interested 10)Accurate scripture and information on the subject So there is knowledge in the posts despite the ongoing conversations.
OP posts:
Parker231 · 09/02/2026 07:30

Unfortunately these threads are always the same and probably always will be.
Those of us who are non believers want evidence and those with faith can’t provide it.

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