Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

[Justmerach]

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

You can provide information and evidence, but if interested and it was not really why I posted to try and encourage others to seek the faith out. directly That is what you are meant to do if you want evidence for yourself. You are meant to pray with commitment and then Jesus may confirm the faith to you in time.
This leads to (Matthew 7)
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened".

Moving On
I was thinking of some of the discussion. The Bible has some poetry and symbolism in the thread I think some people were taking it litreally. This is from Pslam 137
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones"
This is not about murder but calling for judgement and rejection of where they and as children are the most important things this means that there is theat to their lives where they are cannot continue in a poetic sense.

I’m not looking for a faith but question as to why people believe so many inaccuracies, impossible and implausible statements in the Bible
Something I’ll never understand but as I’m not looking to change my views (unless there was evidence), I’ll continue my life very happily as it is. Nothing negative is going to happen to me as an atheist.

So I post about Christianity and honesty (or lack of), and it appears you were just posting here to evangelise all along ?

Quote : " Anyway, I am pleased with the content what was posted.".

Is this an exercise in showing your god how much you love HIM ? So while other posters here have been posting in good faith, having a good natured and respectful discussion, you were doing this for "points" with him you believe is upstairs ? You had a list of what you had to post ?

Quote : " It seemed I would be taking Jesus and putting him here I poundered at first, but decided to do it as he went to all places and then stopped where he wasn't welcome. I am glad that I posted and stuck to my values."

What values ? Honesty ?

Did you post a genuine question for discussion, or are you just using us to make a proclamation of YOUR faith ?

You are assuming things I never wrote. You basically wrote to me that after you left your faith that you became more honest implying that people were not somewhat. I said this is not so.
I said why I posted this thread to put correct information here.. Somebody else that day had posted a post in another thread in a thread that I was reading and had responded to that Jesus was not the Son of God and I wanted to respond and so started this post as the thread was closed. I probably wouldn't have otherwise but I had an answer already written. May be you are directing things from your life to me. I have done my own things for my faith and this is not really included. Please stop assuming things.

I am not assuming anything, not that I am aware of.

What is this list you posted ?

"Anyway, I am pleased with the content what was posted.

1. A ministers sermon on the conscreation of Jesus
2. A minsters sermon on the birth of Jesus from Joseph's view how it was holy.
3. A ministers sermon on the Holy Spirit gifts which is how Jesus ministry communicates with his believers today.
4. A preachers take on the Holy Innocents
5. Resarch on Racism Sunday
6. Research on the Quiet Revival
7. Christianity Art Youtube
8. Media to Daystar on Youtube on fallen angels
9. Links to go if interested 10)Accurate scripture and information on the subject So there is knowledge in the posts despite the ongoing conversations."

It looks to me like a tick box list for some sort of set exercise. When I apply logical reasoning to what I have read on this thread, my conclusion is that this was nothing really to do with the question you posted.

It was about YOU wanting to proclaim your faith. And I suspect you also hoped for a bit of persecution too ?

I had no idea how the thread would turn out and so although there was off topic disucssion there was still information that I decided to post as the thread was going to have accurate information in the thread. That is what it is about to. This was posted, so having started it, I am glad there is some accurate information still contained in the body of the thread. I was responding to peoples questions as it went on. It was not me who asked about the Holy Innocents, said that how can the virgin birth be Holy, show some evidence of Jesus etc. Your child may not have a faith led to the quiet revival information being posted.
It was not me who led to more evidence being posted. I think this is getting pointless this discussion. This is your views for yourself nowhere was I looking for persecution. You have no idea about my thoughts.

Respectfully, @Justmerach, you’re not posting ‘correct information’, you just keep posting chunks of Bible, a text about whose history, dating, authorship, development and canonicity for different Christian groups you seem largely uninformed about, despite having studied religion.

You don’t seem to grasp that the Bible proves nothing, other than that early Christianity existed, and emerged out of Second Temple Judaism. It’s like saying ghosts exist because there’s a famous book about them by people who believed in ghosts thousands of years ago, and every time someone says there’s no credible evidence whatsoever for the existence of ghosts, you just keep quoting chunks from the ancient book about ghosts written by ghost believers. It’s circular logic.

You are disturbingly reluctant to question your sources, which appear to be the Bible, random websites and YouTube videos, and anything a ‘minister’ says. Everything you’ve posted on here is a frantic attempt to explain away inconsistencies or the vast number of places where the OT god behaves like a maniac.

Don’t you think your faith stands up to scrutiny?

I will return to this post if I more to support the thread topic.

@JustmerachPlease, please, please no more ‘evidence’ from the Bible, sermons or other Christian sources. Just accept that it has no value to non-Christians and will not persuade them. If you can’t participate in a reasoned discussion without constant lengthy references to your sources take it elsewhere. You’d be better to post this on the Christian mumsnetters board where they apparently take you seriously.

Good stuff.

Right, I am going to take some time to compose this, select the verses to cut and paste, so lets see.

The Baptism of Jesus. What is said when Jesus is baptized.

Mar 1:9-11 " And it came to pass in those days, Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was immersed by John in the Jordan;and immediately coming up from the water, He saw the heavens dividing, and the Spirit coming down on Him as a dove;and a voice came out of the heavens, "You are My Son, the Beloved, in whom I delighted."

Mat 3:16-17 "And having been immersed, Jesus immediately went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming on Him,and behold, a voice out of the heavens, saying, "This is My Son, the Beloved, in whom I delighted."

The bolded parts are very different. One is the voice speaking direct to Jesus, the other is the voice speaking to the general attendees.

Luk 3:22 "and the Holy Spirit came down in a bodily appearance, as if a dove, on Him, and a voice came out of Heaven, saying, "You are My Son, the Beloved, in You I delighted."

So Luke is the same as Mark. Speaking direct to Jesus, and not the assembled crowd.

Joh 1:32-34 " And John testified, saying, "I have seen the Spirit coming down out of Heaven as a dove, and [that] One remained on Him; and I did not know Him, but He who sent me to immerse in water, He said to me, On whomsoever you may see the Spirit coming down, and remaining on Him, this is He who is immersing in the Holy Spirit; and I have seen, and have testified, that this is the Son of God.""

Totally different, apart from the pigeon.

What one is it ? Four gospels, 4 baptism stories, and THREE different versions.

What one is true ? They can't all be.

Then one simple question , please op.

Do you believe that God allowed Jesus to die in such a cruel way, for our sins to be forgiven?

Please do not give me scriptures.i want your opinion in your words.

And there's are hundreds more written in different ways.

Fact, the bible does not come directly from God. It is written and rewritten, take out, changed and aome chapters removed completely. There's the king James versionz the good news version, the red letter bible.

The.way Judas died as well, he hung himself then in another verse he fell down and his insides pushed open.

Plus the story of the city of Amalek on Samuel. Where God ordered everyone to be killed, Women, men , children, newborns and all animals and spare no one. Doesn't sound like a merciful and loving God at all.

Gently, @Justmerach, if your intention in starting this thread was to evangelise, it’s having the opposite effect.

I do believe that God allowed his Son to be crucified on the cross so that we can have more of a relationship with him and for the forgiveness of our sins. It was painful, but also an expression of the Father's love for humanity to do this. Jesus was rescurrected and withstood the cross for less than six hours. He may have had angelic support around him to support him and also people were praying for him and he was probably praying to. With prayers they can give strenght sometimes as I have found "He gives power to the faint and increases the strength of the weak" (Jude 1:24). Many people go through real perscuetion today and it makes him relate to our suffering to a high level.

I wrote this myself. It relates to your topic and so I will post this here-

The Passion of Christ from the time of Jesus' arrest until his his mortal death on the cross.

In the Garden of Gethsemane Jesus asked his father to take this cup of suffering away from him. Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done (Luke 22:42). On the Cross he also groaned out- Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani" -My God my God why have you forsaken me (Matthew 24:47).

Jesus was fully divine in a mortal body and was not without physical strength at his command. He also had human attributes though, it seems to be emotion that he felt when he said both of these things as being on the Cross was awful to experience and witness, but he knew that he was going to Heaven and actually had more strength to survive further than the hours he spent on the Cross. God has said also in Psalm 30-that our emotions can override us at times, and then we pull ourselves together showing how moments of being made in his image can overtake us briefly. God knew that it was enough for his Son.

The Garden of Gethsemane makes me wonder as to what could have been going through Jesus’ mind. He saw that his colleagues would betray him-two of them-denied by Peter and to be betrayed by Judas. Which was meant to happen-but could have been difficult for anyone to see. He was a prophet as well as the Son of God and knew what further was to come for him in the coming days. 40 days is a long time to go without food and to be left to think.

I have thought over what inner turmoil Jesus may have had with so many thoughts going through his mind before he went on the cross. There was may be the voice of mother and more. Jesus recieved clarity of vision forged in his time in the wilderness. This must have been a challenging period of self-reflection, self-examination, a time almost certainly of mental and spiritual torment,full of self-doubt and fear. But he emerged stronger and absolutely certain of the path ahead, knowing that it would be fraught with risk, rejection, and many other tests and challenges on the way.

I remembered today that in (Luke 22:43) that an angel appeared to Jesus to strengthen him in the Garden of Gethsemane. Not all the Gospels tell of this encounter, so people may not know it. Of course at this point Jesus knew what was ahead of him. Most people do know that angels came to support him after he was tempted by the devil and won through in conviction.

Catholic traditions of the Bible like the Douay-Rheims Bible also mention that the Lord was in turmoil and agony at this point. It doesn't mention though exactly in his words what was going through his mind.

Some people seemed to believe that he was the Son of God, but denied it and some also denied who he was outright and said he was guilty of sin by healing on the Sabbath and by saying that he is the Son of God-many didn’t believe him. When he was being sentenced also he refused to speak to those sentencing him, so he suppressed any feelings if he had them to himself.

Jesus was flogged/scourged repeadetly before going on the cross and then he suffered on the cross (Matthew 27:26) "and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified."

He was put on the cross as a lawbreaker. He was given vinegar to drink which was humbling given that he was the Son of God. It was said he rejected this, but the Gospel of Luke states that he drank it a different mixture given to him. He was also mocked significantly. I also read that Jesus was spat at as well when he was being crucified. His clothes were removed from as prophecy said would happen and that may have been humbling for him to encounter still.

Jesus also wore the Crown of thorns on his head which was piercing with pain and can distort your thoughts and you can say anything. He prayed likely continually silently and inwardly on the Cross. Jesus was also nailed to the cross.

What happened to Jesus was the plan for his life, but I find it interesting looking at what could have been going through his mind to lead him to make both of the comments that he made. I never was able to think much of his suffering on the cross before due to finding it too painful and used to go from the Garden of Gethsemane to the Supper at Emmaus. I have been drawn most recently to look at the suffering that he went through during the Passion of Christ in greater depth.

I was wondering to and explored myself, if this could have affected him-that he may have thought that he was around his enemies in life now also and who would want to live a life with their enemies. I certainly well wouldn’t want to live long term with my enemies on earth.
Psalm 137 is about worshipping in a strange land as well as about recovering from disorientation. Now I wonder if the world began to look very strange to the Lord. I wonder about his early days in Heaven when he was resurrected where like, perhaps being administered again by the angels.

Jesus was only still in his 30s as well and although was full of wisdom far beyond his years. He was still this age building up his self belief in himself as a person. Did he feel that he did enough for his Father, of course he did as we know, but the mind can hold us to a higher account. Jesus is now fully developed in the spirit in Heaven.

For God to see his Son on the Cross-extremely difficult perhaps as me I cannot even bare seeing a nail biting match if family are involved. He gave us his son, imagine watching him on the Cross from above...agony for any Father and every private thought and groan of his Son in turmoil he could hear as well. The end of his mortal life would have felt to by his Father that this was done to him, although he knew it was prophecy fulfilled and he would be coming home soon.

Jesus lived a life consecrated for God. He was rational and knew this was still young to leave a mortal life but he said that he knew his time and journey was complete on earth. He said this a few times to his disciples. Jesus knew that his fathers will was overriding and that he had been called to partake in being a mediator between his father and man and being a new sacrificial atonement giving us a new Bread of Presence which was the Eucharist and his blood for the remission of sins.

Jesus agonizing journey to his death began at the Pretorium, just north of the Temple, and ended up at Calavry. Tradition maintains that he entered his journey along Jerusalem's Via Dolorosa, or street of suffering on his way to calvary.

At the end when his life on earth ceased Jesus was pierced in the side to confirm life extinct on earth. With the folding of the sudarium on his head to mark the completion of his journey on earth it was folded and was reminiscent of the Last Supper completed in the Cenacle room. His mortal body was later found removed from the tomb he was laid in at 3 days, he was guarded by angels and those who visited to see his mortal body found his mortal body missing and the angel expressed that it had gone to heaven (Luke 24:2).

Jesus is the Son of God, the Son of Elias, God.

He was given to us by God, so that we could have a relationship with him by the forgiveness of our sins, giving us the Lamb of God, his Son as a way of us residing with him everlasting

That's a no then.

@Justmerach

Quote " Catholic traditions of the Bible like the Douay-Rheims Bible also mention that the Lord was in turmoil and agony at this point. It doesn't mention though exactly in his words what was going through his mind."

Can you expand on this. I have a Douay-Rheims. I just opened it on my PC. Where is this turmoil and agony that is different from other translations.?

There you loose me - someone being resurrected isn’t anymore possible than a virgin birth.

It is hard to remember where I read it now but I got this from online and I think it shows this.

"Yes, Catholic tradition and bible versions like the Douay-Rheims (DRB) strongly emphasize that Jesus was in profound turmoil and agony, particularly during his prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane before his arrest. The Douay-Rheims, which is a translation of the Latin Vulgate used by Catholics for centuries, highlights the intense, human, and spiritual suffering of Christ through specific language."

Here are key aspects from Catholic tradition and the Douay-Rheims Bible regarding this:

1. The Agony in the Garden (Luke 22:44)

In the Douay-Rheims, Luke 22:43-44 says:
"And there appeared to him an angel from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony, he prayed the longer. And his sweat became as drops of blood, trickling down upon the ground".

• Agony: The term "agony" refers to the severe mental and emotional struggle, not just physical pain.
• Sweat of Blood: Catholic tradition holds that this was a literal, physical manifestation of supreme mental stress, a phenomenon that highlights the intensity of his suffering.

1. The Turmoil of Soul (Matthew 26:37-38)

The Douay-Rheims translation of Matthew 26:37 describes Jesus as beginning to "fear and to be heavy". Jesus states, "My soul is sorrowful even unto death".

Ok. So you believe in blood sacrifice and pain and suffering of God's perfect son for us to have a relationship with him!!!!! Yeah, sounds legit!

I just knew there would be huge paragraphs with scriptures attached that conflict and contradict.

I dont believe at all in that nonsense.
There were other people on the cross that day bearing pain and torture. It was the pain method. I wonder if you were taught jesus peace be with him was electrocuted would the church be using the electrocution chair as the symbol instead of the cross and saying God / God son had to die on the electric chair for our sins to be forgiven.

So, basically if Hitler the pig he is, believe in the cross and jesus death, hes forgiven. Yeah. Sounds great!

The first paragraph I wrote was for you which had no scripture.

What followed was not directly for you but for everyone. It was related to the subject you raised and asked me and I posted something related to the question you asked me generally which I had already written. The Passion of Christ is meant to be written this way.

Yup.

@Justmerach

Given that each gospel is different, and now as you point out, even different translations are different, what one do you consider to be true ?

They can't all be true after all, because they are all different.

Ok, so if I told you that Noah in our faith had to be strung up on a scarecrow pole and poked and prodded with electorcutions sticks and wrapped in barbed wire, because hes the perfect son of God and he had to go through that for our sins to be forgiven (because everyone in Christianity is born in sin and only when you accept jesus as lord and son then you will be forgiven), would you think I was loopy or you'd think that was superb?

Alhamdullilah for islam.

Id like for you to see one message foundation or one true message foundation on youtube for yourself so you can see how the Christians argue and get all twisted up when the bible is brought out and all the verses highlighted of the mistakes and errors. Its incredible.

That’s AI!