Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

[Justmerach]

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

Hi everyone, this is a photo of the Rod of Jesse mentioned in the post above.

Checking in from last thread. I need to research the above for sure. I don't recall coming across this before.

:-)

Hi, somebody posted this here in this thread today and I wanted to respond to what they said about Jesus Christ and not thinking that he was the Son of God and found out that it was closed the thread when I went to post.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/5470509-do-you-believe-in-god?reply=149967487&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share&utm_source=copylink

@Justmerach . That thread hit it's post limit. I don't think I argued about Jesus not being the son of God specifically, but I am happy to have a go at your post if you like. I am just a plain old atheist.

Want me to have a go ? Sure is an interesting post.

:-)

Thank you, this thread is open to anybody and say anything your want if is on topic and your mind.

I see @garlicsound has hit like on my post here. Could be an interesting discussion :-)

For starters @Justmerach , where did you get the photo you posted ? I don't have image search due to my location, and I can't find it.

Thank you RedTagAlan do you mean the photo of the rod, I got this from a church. I looked at it and knew it was a rod and asked the minister and they told me it was of the rod of Jesse. I do like the rods to in the Old Testatment and they have a lot of history.

Moving On-

I do like to Isaiah 46 and God has said that Jesus is his only Begootteon Son and he speaks the truth.
" Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me",

Cool. Will have a go tomorrow.

@Justmerach Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God.

What three faiths share the same god?

@Justmerach

Quote : " The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is."

Hebrew Word Definition: Messiah | AHRC (ancient-hebrew.org)

From that : "The root word of meshiyach is the verb mashach (Strong's #4886) meaning "to anoint". In the ancient Hebrew culture is customary to pour oil on the head of one who is being given a position of authority. This practice is called "anointing". One of the most common misunderstandings about meshiyach is that there is only one, but the Tanakh identifies several. The word is used 39 times and just a few of these are listed below."

Χριστός | Free Online Greek Dictionary | billmounce.com

From that : "

"Definition:
Christ, Anointed One, Messiah, the Greek translation of the Hebrew 5431 (cf. Greek {3549}). The Messiah is the Son of David, an anointed leader expected to bring in an age of peace and liberty from all oppression. In the NT, the Messiah is Jesus, who came first to bring liberty from sin and peace with God and who will come again to bring all things under his control.
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Not the same.

The Hebrew concept of messiah is a strong leader. Someone who will lead Isreal to glory etc. A human mortal King. The greek has the same basis, but it ADDS the son of God bit. This is why Jews reject the idea of Jesus being the messiah.

A human king/leader is not the same as "son of god".

So the opening line of your pasted document is a false premise. The concept of Christ, son of God, IS NOT the Hebrew concept of Messiah.

This is why it is so important to read each claim made, and fact check it.

Thank you, I didn’t explain that very well

In the three faiths we both have one God and share some of the foundational stories and founding patriarchs in the Old Testament and the Quran are the same with some differences how God is depicted. With Judaism we both share the same Old Testament/Torah and the same God.

I presume you mean me as I was the one who left a lengthy comment about it.

And thats ok. Thats what you believe. I dont and i have several reasons. I dont believe God has a son.I believe the one true lord is above having a son, or a daughter. And hes above having children, hes powerful and mighty. I dont believe in jesus being the only begotten son either. God doesnt beget. Mary didnt give birth to a god and her own child. MARY HABE BIRTH TO PROPHET JESUS.
The bible also says jesus is a prophet. The bible also says jesus was a man and God cannot be a man.

Then christians say we are all children of God. The bible also says david is his only son. That even angels are his sons. But the bible says jesus is lower than the angels. So how can a God/son of God be lower than angels. And not know the hour. Because it says that too. No one knows the hour, only the father. The angels and the Son do not know. So again this proves Jesus is not God or son of God. I was a Christian for many years more than I have been Muslim. And I had this drilled into me. But then my mother would teach me hes son of God and not God but church and bible study night would teach me that he is God as well and 3 in 1.
So if he is God, where does he state in the bible that he is God. When he clearly says do not put me higher than my father?

Further more, how can he be God and son of God. Where does he say in the bible does Jesus say I am God as well as son Of god and wants to be worshipped. He never says it.

He never claims to be God, if he was God then why would he say in the bible, I cannot do anything of my own, only from HIM who sent me. He never says I sent myself. I got the powers to heal myself and I can raise the dead myself. No. Never.
He says I am the way (the way to get to God)
And the truth (he was a truthful man) and the life.(meaning his life was a way to go to God) jesus preached monotheism and submitted his will to his Father/Allaha. As that is what he called God as he spoke Aramaic.

Im sorry but this is the proof from your own bible.
And there's are certain aspects of the that I follow as a Muslim that mirror my quran. Such as not eating pork, and ten commandments. Covering of the hair, majority of stories of the prophets except Lut and his daughters. Having only one God and when jesus said do not worship me and do not put me higher than the father i agree. Plus I don't beleive that God would allow his son/2nd God to.die on the cross, naked and beaten and tortured and going to toilet on himself no way. We beleive jesus rose to heaven and will come back. Its very simple.

Here are some verses i believe in that unfortunately Christians will argue about.

He prayed for his disciples, saying, “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3)
The only true God and then separating jesus from God.

the Father is “the one and only God” (John 5.44).

God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19) he is a supreme being. We do not know what he looks like.

Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19)

Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19)

And he said to him, ‘Why are you asking me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.’ (Matthew 19:17)
The first commandment is of course, thou shall have no other Gods besides me. Which we believe too, as Muslims. That Allah is the one true God. The same God which you call Holy father. That he is the only one to be worshipped and 2nd commandment is thou shall make no images or statues of me. Which again, Muslims dont have these pictures of a blonde and blue eyed man on their walls holding a cross.

My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28)
Correct, God is above everything and all praise belongs to Him and only Him.

My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29)

The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him.’ (John 4:23)
God created us to worship him. It never said worship me and worship jesus too. God is one. Not 3 in 1 . Just one.

If Jesus was God, he would have sought worship for himself.

Since he didn’t, instead he sought worship for God in the heavens, therefore, he is not God.

Jesus worshipped the only true God
‘that they might know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.’ (John 17:3)
‘he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12)
‘Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28)

And God certainly doesnt pray to another God. So, How did Jesus pray to God?
‘he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father’ (Matthew 26:39)
‘During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.’ (Hebrews 5:7)

The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples over a period of 30 years after my beloved prophet Jesus was raised to heaven. Throughout this period, they never referred to Jesus as God. For instance Peter stood up with the eleven disciples and addressed a crowd saying:

‘Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God (Confirmed In Matthew 12:18)

‘The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.’ (Acts 3:13)

‘God raised up his servant’ (Acts 3:26)

‘Behold, My servant, whom I have chosen, in whom My soul is well pleased.’ (Matt 12:18) Since Jesus is God’s servant, Jesus can not be God.

Fact.
All my love and best to you

You say "the three faiths" and "all 3 faiths" - are there only three faiths now? When was this decided?

No, there is not only three faiths in the world, Judaism, Islam and Christianity are called the Abrahamic faiths and this is about those...with two based on the Old Testatment which is Judaism and Christianit. Islam shares to some foundational to shared in the Old Testatment/Torah.

Are you quite well, OP? Next thing you’ll be saying is that the Shroud of Turin is proof of a historical Jesus.

Well, I read an old student forum I used to go when I was student. A Jewish person started a thread and asked others to ask them anything about Judaism. I asked why they didn't believe that Jesus was the Son of God and they replied and their reply I decided to respond to finding the truth in the scripture which I did.

Christ still means the anointed one.

I will share with you what I asked below. I think that what I have posted though has shown that it will be Jesus will redeem the Jews and it is very clear in (2 Samuel 7 12-13). and God underlines nature in Isaiah 46.
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Question-
As a Jew you believe in the word of God, but why do not most believe what the Bible says that Jesus was God’s Son to come to?
It is like you choose to believe in some of it the Old Testament but not all of it. I respect all faiths but I am intrigued how someone decides not to accept all of it. Isaiah 7:14, Micah 5:2 and
Jeremiah 23:5-6.

Their response-

imo u can really interpret those verses how u want, they definitely say that G-d will send the Jews a redeemer but it doesn't name who it will be, we believe they're talking about the Messiah son of David who will come and redeem us from exile but not that they refer to Jesus

Genuinely, OP, you take something a random internet stranger once told you on a chat forum as some kind of timeless truth? And you can’t see the issue with using a text written by the believers of a particular sect as ‘proof’ that their beliefs have a foundation outside their own heads?

Not needed. This is about finding answers mainly using scripture and evidence. I have studied religion and I am a Christian and like looking deeper into scripture to resolve things that are misunderstood and this question was not understood correctly by some.

I thought that it was interesting and from a personal perspective may shed some light on why some Jewish people do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and why they do not think he may redeem them. It is good to get an insiders view and more in their community may feel the same. I have studied Judaism to some extent, some time ago and wanted them to refresh my mind on this topic as well.

Do you have anything actually to say on the subject and scripture which is what this is about.

Thank you Judgejudysno1fan, I did read your post and wanted to reply but couldn't. Thank you for taking the time to reply. I am going to voluntary work this morning, but will look over reply later today and spend some time and reply to you if needed. Thank you for sharing.

Agreed. And Abraham also preached monotheism.

I hope you have a truly lovely day in God's care

Well, because it’s a faith with different beliefs, in which Jesus is pretty insignificant? Like Islam, where Jesus is a minor character?

TLDR

@JustmerachAll of your arguments depend entirely on the Bible. For people who don’t believe that the Bible is the word of God they are meaningless and prove nothing. To be convincing you’d need to provide evidence that is not Bible based.

@Judgejudysno1fanExcellent post