Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

[Justmerach]

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

Question

Do you worship jesus and put him at the same level as God/Holy father?

The Book of Job is part of the Old Testatment and conveys a message about being faithful in the midst of torment. Job was before Christ and showed about self sacrfice and righteous behaviour as something for us to use in difficulty. It was a difficult story, but God him some of his fortune back.
Gensis is the creation story, but Job is part of the Bible story in the Old Testatment.

For some people they just follow Christ's words like with the five gospels and his teachings and the book of Revelations some people know to as it was prophecy from Christ to John.

The case you pointed to sounds difficult, it is a test case and model case. I doubt that it would happen today. It would be a benchmark for what is expected, but many of us may fall short. Holiness is still expected in the church with Christ.
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Moving On-

I think the Holy Spirit can be sent upon Jews who follow Judaism,some were conscreated so may have had the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Christians though some when baptised and matured may have the indwelling/inflling of the Holy Spirit and this is a difference. To my knowledge and someone can say differently Muslims do not have the indweling of the Holy Spirit. This is given to help the church and support believers and is active today and is the 3rd attribute of God and clear evidence that Jesus is with us today and communicates to believers through this sending messages from the Holy Spirit to somebody spirit when in need by his authroity alone. It has really helped my life and made the walk a lot more bearable.

The Holy Spirit has many roles, helper, healer, protector, intercessor, advocate, strengthener, standby, comforter, counsellor, baptiser and a sanctifier.

Paraclete: In the Gospel of John, Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as the Advocate (or Paraclete) that the Father will send after he is gone. The word in the original Greek text is parakletos:

But Muslims believe in the same Abrahamic deity as Christians and Jews.

Or do you think they’re also getting tossed into the ‘not so bad’ circle of hell you borrowed from Dante for doing it wrong?

Under the Mosaic law they did of course did not need to believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God to recieve eternal life. They were under a different law such as Moses and Abraham. The law changed with Christ. God expects people to go through his Son and this includes everyone.

There are some differences with how God is perceived in the Quaran and the Holy Bible. There is some differences in the faith to. Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet and not the Son of God. Therefore according to the Bible and what God says this is the only path to him through forgiveness of sins and repentance and bellieving that he is the Saviour-
John 14:6-" "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me"
I don't think I need to answer more than that as the scripture speaks for itself.

@Judgejudysno1fan Jesus Christ is God's Son and is worthy to be praised to me. I believe in the Trinity and Godhead. I got this from a church about the Trinity. I believe that they can have different attritubes but stand united and in agreement.
"We believe that the Godhead exists co-equally and co-eternally in three persons – Father, Son and Holy Spirit – and that these three are one God, sovereign in creation, providence and redemption."

@Justmerach

Your original post was "Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God". I have just read it again. You had a lot in that post. The "Rod of Jesse" for example, and various posters challenged specific parts, or asked for more explanation.

But instead of stopping to explain specifics, you reply by throwing in more verses, links to sites about miracles, and more characters , more bible stories: anything but reply to specifics head on.

There is a lot of handwaving too. And just plain ignoring simple questions, such as how is a virgin birth possible. I don't think basics like that should not be ignored. You could at least have a try to answer. Virgin births happen in some animal species. It's called parthenogenesis. It is documented and scientifically explained. You could at least have a go.

But no, you just keep throwing more and more into your pot of "evidence" without explaining why you adding it to the mix. The pot just keeps getting bigger and bigger, more confusing We should have a simple chicken noodle soup in the pot, where we discuss the noodles, or what chicken. But now we have a pot overflowing with so many things I have no idea what part to discuss.

And in you last post, you are throwing even more in, Quote :

" I believe in the Trinity and Godhead. I got this from a church about the Trinity. I believe that they can have different attritubes but stand united and in agreement.
"We believe that the Godhead exists co-equally and co-eternally in three persons – Father, Son and Holy Spirit – and that these three are one God, sovereign in creation, providence and redemption.""

Can you please stop throwing more in, and stop to explain this. Because you have now moved the goalposts from " son of god" to some sort of amalgam of god, Jesus, a new character you call "holy spirit, and something called a "Godhead".

Please explain what these new things are.

Still no evidence as to why anyone would believe a scripture referring to a virgin birth. Do people not apply common sense to their beliefs?

Nor even why it has to be a virgin. Why is religion so obsessed with virgins ?

Take surrogacy. A contentious subject. Imagine if someone advertised for a surrogate and added " MUST BE A VIRGIN".

What I have written about scripture is in the Bible and not conceived by me.
Somebody asked for up to date evidence themselves from the church about Jesus Christ existence today-therefore I posted about the miracles at Lourdes and in a later post a link to the Lourdes website about their procedure.

The virgin birth it went unanswered by anybody for a while. I decided to look in my Bible. I found a note and said if interested look further. I then gave a link to a trusted I thought website which was the vatician and it was described it in a holy manner. Now, for myself I don't find it very spiritual to go further than this, so don't. Myself it us not something I feel comfortable writing more and am guided by the parameters of the Vatician to.

Somebody asked do you worship Jesus Christ, please see the thread and question and I replied and I do and believe in the Trinity to explain it, it was not your question.

If you was a Christian yourself some of these questions you ask me I am not why you wouldn't know yourself or research yourself.

This is really about scripture and finding the truth in the scripture about Jesus being the Son of God. I have seen threads before, that fall of the discussion subject and taken over in other directions. I will read back and see if any questions have been overlooked.

Because a virgin birth is an impossibility, it’s totally discredits any scriptures. Or do people just accept it without questioning and application of common sense?

To answer your question about the prophecy of the Rod of Jesse. I like it myself as I like the history of rods and staffs in the Old Testatment and it culiminated with Jesus Christ. I like the name to, it reminds me of him and Jesse to means God or King in Hebrew..

I found this online about it and it comes the Old Testatment and some do not know this. In the Dead Scrolls Isaiah was in there mentioning Christ to come.

"The "Rod of Jesse" prophecy, found in Isaiah 11:1, predicts that a messianic figure (a "shoot" or "rod") will emerge from the "stump of Jesse," representing the rejuvenation of King David's lineage after it appeared dead. This prophecy foretells Jesus Christ as the promised Savior, possessing divine wisdom and spirit, who brings salvation to both Israel and the nations"

About the Holy Spirit-Jesus said he would send his believers a comforter the Holy Spirit after he departed earth. He is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the 3rd attribute of the Trinity. It is worth mentioning as it is how Jesus Christ works with Christians today and there is numerous workings today by the Holy Spirit among believers and the church and it confirms his existence to through this that he is the Son of God who has sent thiis to the believers and the church,

Also, going further-some say that Mohhammad is the Paracelete and Christ said it will be the Holy Spirit and there is evidence for this today. It is an area may be that needs to be explored.

Isa 11:1 And a Rod has come out from the stock of Jesse, || And a Branch is fruitful from his roots. (LSV)

That's the verse. And you used 268 words to explain what you think the verse says. You did this without quoting the verse.

The verse is gibberish.

And this came from God ?

The virgin birth it went unanswered by anybody for a while. I decided to look in my Bible. I found a note and said if interested look further. I then gave a link to a trusted I thought website which was the vatician and it was described it in a holy manner. Now, for myself I don't find it very spiritual to go further than this, so don't.

Respectfully, OP, you're an incredibly poor advert for Christianity if this is the level of your intellectual curiosity about a central tenet of your own faith.

I mean, doesn't it strike you as significant that the only references in the entire canonical Bible to the virgin birth are in Luke and Matthew, and that some scholars have suggested that the verses referencing it in Luke are interpolations by a later writer, possibly reducing it to one mention (by a writer mostly concerned with presenting the life of Jesus as the fulfilment of various Isaiah prophecies?

And that both were written at a time when there was no knowledge about the role of sperm in conception (so virgin births seemed far less unlikely, because it was thought that women provided everything needed for the production of a baby), and for a Greco-Roman audience familiar with stories of miraculous births and mortal women impregnated by gods -- not to mention Second Temple Judaism having a long tradition of miraculous births for other key figures. Like Noah was born to a father who was 182 years old and Isaac, born to a 90 year old woman etc etc.

And that the early Christian writings written closest in date to the lifetime of Jesus, by Paul and others, not to mention Mark's gospel, make no mention of it?

I mean, if I believed something impossible, I'd want to know why I was being called upon to believe it, and why.

If you have a question it is not clear. Many of the descriptions in this verse describes Jesus Christ to come. There are many references that point to Jesus Christ in that scripture. Christians are beleivers and also can be described as branches of Christ and he who have ears to hear is repeated in the New Testatment. I use KJV myself.

Based on John 15,
Jesus describes himself as the "true vine" and believers (Christians) as the "branches," signifying an intimate, dependent relationship where connection to him is essential for spiritual life, growth, and fruitfulness.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2011&version=KJV

May be Christian Art descrption for about less than 2 minutes on the Root of Jesse may help with this to make it clear who it points to.

@Wapentake I don't need to know more myself. If people want to discuss this it is up to them and your personal stance is underhand and not needed.
I am not in the habit of writing things not respectful to my faith online. I don't tell people what to do either with this, so stop baiting it may be. I don't find this spiritual myself and more wordly understood with this.

I am not trying to convince you of anything-but post accurate information on Jesus Christ being the Son of God using scripture and his workings today through the Holy Spirit which he said he would send believers.

Then you dont follow Gods commandments which were given to Musa/moses.

The 1st one is thou shall not have any other Gods other than me!

Worshipping jesus/cross/The father and the holy spirit is what Muslims will call shirk. Worshipping multiple things/idols and statues.

There is only one God. There is no verse whatsoever in the entire bible where jesus declares himself to be God and worthy of worship. Hence why I left the church and found islam to be the truth.

Alhamdullilah all praise to God alone.
And we love jesus but I cannot and will not ever put him on the same level as God.

In what way do you consider my stance 'underhand'? I've been perfectly upfront about my devoutly Christian upbringing, my adult cultural Christianity and contented atheism. I've certainly said nothing 'disrespectful' about Christianity. I've been discussing the key texts of your faith, which you claim to revere and live by, with rather more knowledge than you who claim to be posting 'accurate information' -- in fact, you seem to know very little about the Bible and its history and contexts.

Are you actually saying that knowledge about the cultural contexts in which the NT writers were working, comparing the gospels, including other miraculous birth stories in the OT and in other belief systems that would have been familiar to early Christians, is 'not respectful to your faith'?

Thank you for your measured response. We will agree to disagree. The Holy Spirit is the 3rd attribute of God in my faith and it is incredibly holy. It is God’s spirit. I was actually shown this once by the faith and it is was like I was before it and vast source of energy and it was incredible.

Matthew 12-“Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”

Jesus does not say in the Bible that he is God the Father, but the Son of God. He asks us to pray to his father and to worship his father. We are expected to love him as well. In Revelations it states the lamb which is Jesus Christ is worthy to be praised “Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing”.

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70).

Psalm 104 is about the Holy Spirit-Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains.

In Numbers 11:17-25, God takes the Spirit that was upon Moses and shares it with seventy elders to empower them to share the burden of leadership
This signifies the delegation of authority, the distribution of spiritual gifts for community edification, and the establishment of a shared, like-minded leadership, rather than a diminution of the Spirit

This is your opinion.
I wrote that I do not wish to discuss in debatil about the birth of Christ and how he was created you was quite rude about it. I was guided by the church on what to write. Respect that if you can. I am not limiting others what they can post though. Move on this with me may be.

@Justmerach, but you're the person who started a thread about Jesus being the only true Son of God and producing bits of scripture that prove this, for you -- why are you so incurious about the composition, authors and cultural contexts of the key text that asserts that, and from which you keep quoting?

@Justmerach

You are talking about the holy spirit in a pp, and you say this :

"In Numbers 11:17-25, God takes the Spirit that was upon Moses and shares it with seventy elders to empower them to share the burden of leadership
This signifies the delegation of authority, the distribution of spiritual gifts for community edification, and the establishment of a shared, like-minded leadership, rather than a diminution of the Spirit"

So you are doing this out of order thing again, trying to force this holy spirit into a story that predates the concept of the holy spirit being invented.

See here:

Num 11:17" and I have come down and spoken with you there, and have kept back of the Spirit which [is] on you, and have put [that One] on them, and they have borne some of the burden of the people with you, and you do not bear [it] alone." (LSV)

Spirit, in bold above, Strongs Hebrew H7307. ruach - "wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions)"

Source :

H7307 רוּח - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (studybible.info)

So it's extremely unlikely to be the same thing. If it was, then Moses should be talking about it all the time. But he is not.

It's just a word that can maybe mean the same, being used in a different story in a different book.

I believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God.I believe in trusting God and his word. My faith has been confirmed for me through the Holy Spirit in my lifetime, but I don't really need to get into this here. I need to trust myself and have faith. I am comfortable with the understanding I have. People can still learn all the time though, but I am not looking to want to know more in this area that you and I don't find it honourable to discuss further myself, but don't limit others. The Bible is not about exploring it in every mininature detail in ways you may be not comfortable with..

This reply was not to you, but to point out to another member about the Holy Spirit in the Old testatment and how this is done in the New Testatment. I had no idea what they knew of it and was informing them.

God's spirit can be sent to somebody in a presence and this may be happened more in the Old Testatment. Now Jesus said in the New Testatment that he would send believers the Holy Spirit to help support them and the church. Now if you have this you may be given confirmation further of your faith and that Jesus is the Son of God to. This supports his existence today and being the Son of God.

I read that a difference between the Holy Spirit for believers in the Old Testatment and the New Testatment is that Christians recieve the indwelling of the Holy Spirit-rather than just coming to support you in a prescence. It can guide with your life. It can still do this as well come to support you in a prescence to as I have experienced.

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"The Bible is not about exploring it in every mininature detail in ways you may be not comfortable with.."

For sure. Because no better way for Christians to become atheist than really read what the Bible says.

It's an horrific book.

I am not looking to want to know more in this area

I don't find it honourable to discuss further myself

The Bible is not about exploring it in every mininature detail in ways you may be not comfortable with

I'm simply trying to understand what gave you the idea that wanting more knowledge of the key text upon which you base your faith, and from which you have quoted endlessly on this thread, is not 'honourable' or is something to be avoided? Why prize wilful ignorance?

I've not suggested anything at all heterodox, incidentally, only pointed out that the virgin birth is never mentioned by the NT writers who wrote closest to the historical Jesus's lifetime.

It was a huge deal in the version of Catholicism I grew up with, but chiefly because Irish Catholicism was reshaped after the Famine and the repeal of the Penal Laws with a strong practice on Marian devotion, which lasted into my lifetime. But it's not a particular feature of other varieties of Catholicism.

You made things a bit personal in your previous posts. I am not comfortable about writing about such things such as breaking issues that was mentioned in this thread about this subject. Each to their own.

These scripture mentioned about the virgin birth.

Isaiah 7:14 as "a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel," and detailing in Matthew 1:18-25 that Mary was found with child by the Holy Ghost before she and Joseph came together.

Matthew 1:23: "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

It is also mentioned in Luke which is most the historical documented version.

(Luke 1:26-38)

This came up in a sermon recently and it was said that Angel Gabriel returned to Joseph and made clear it was clean and Mary it was right to marry her and that God had conscreated this birth to be Holy.(Matthew 1:18-25)
I could transcript the notes for that sermon if desired.