Scripture to confirm that Jesus Christ is the Only true Son of God.,

[Justmerach]

Hi, I was following the “Do you believe in God thread” and it seems to have been closed. I read a post and wanted to reply to somebody who said that Jesus is not the Son of God. I just wanted to reply to them that why in Christianity in the scripture that we know that Jesus is the Son of God and explain why in my faith scripture supports that Jesus Christ is Only true Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God but was also a prophet. He is also the redeemer to come as this post will explain.

Let me first say first in all three faiths we share much of the Old Testament and believe in the same God. I remember this topic right from my university days comparative studies between all three faiths.

I want to share a document about the Messiah prophecies about Jesus Christ to come that are in the Old Testament and commonly used online.

The Messiah prophecies have all be attached can be clicked on saved and enlarged. It comes in five images.

The word Christ and its Hebrew parallel means the anointed one which Christ is. Not added to that document above and to come to your attention-The Rod of Jesse in Isaiah 11 is also a prophecy of Jesus Christ to come. The Rod of Jesse/root of Jesse was the last rod for Jews and culminated with the Lord. Christians on this rod are his followers itself. God’s famous rods started with Aaron which placed which was placed in the arc of Covenant as a reminder and bore flowers as a promise of regeneration for the Jews. Jesus became as Christians our vine and we became him branches in the New Testament (John 15).

A photo of the Rod of Jesse from a church collection willl be attched in the next post.

It is Jesus the redeemer and heir to David who will redeem us all and the Jews to from exile-Jesus is from the offspring and roots of David (Revelation 22: 16). Some Jews believe that the Messiah prophecies are for David to come, but this is inaccurate and it is Jesus who will redeem them. "I will set up thy seed after thee (after King David), which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son (2 Samuel 7 12-13). God in this scripture also called David his servant and said that his Son was to come.

This scripture further points that Jesus Christ will be the one to redeem the Jewish people. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, the Lord our righteousness Jeremiah (23: 1-6). David will return in the new Jerusalem (Hosea 3:4-5).

Jesus is also known as the Prince of Peace and more attributes which do not point to who is to come as being a mere mortal being and this is mentioned in (Isaiah 9:6). “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

God also confirms in the New Testament Jesus as his only Begeotteon beloved Son –“this is my Beloved only son who I am well pleased" (John 3:16 ). Then in Luke Jesus was asked to this question if was the Son of God and Jesus said that yes he is the Son of God (Luke 22:70). He does not lie and the God the Father simply does not lie as well.

The miracles and healing he gave as we all saw in the New Testament that Jesus Christ ministry gave are well known in the New Testament around 40 in number they were as recorded in the Bible and I saw too with my own eyes in church and in my life, the healing that he gave me. I saw a child who could not walk once an after a few times of healing work at church he started to walk again. This was a miracle of Jesus Christ in our era. It is Jesus Christ who primarily who approves the gifts of the Holy Spirit this as he is the head of the church who appoints these gifts and roles of ministry (Ephesians 4:11).

The Church Body which are made of human beings are the members of the church and Jesus is also the head of the Church and we are part of this body (Ephesians 1:22-23). He promised to send believers a comforter after his resurrection Christ as a Christian gave me the spoken comforter which is the Holy Spirit (John 4:11)? The comforter is the Holy Spirit you receive when you are baptised of water and spirit..

The Son of God is an expression which indentified Jesus of Nazareth as the being who has had an eternal relationship to his Father (Psalm 2:7 ) "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." "You are my Son; today I have become your Father." Christ claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). (Matthew 4:3; 8: 29; 27:54). This too makes clear that Jesus is the Son of God (John 5:18). Also in the New Testament the term the Son of God appears in the New Testament almost 50 times. God also confessed that Jesus was his son at his baptism and at the transfiguration (Matthew 3:16, 17; 17: 5). Jesus also said that he is the Son of God (John 4:15) Revelation (2:18) (John 20:31) (Matthew 4:3) (II Corinthians 1:19) (Luke 8:28), the Jewish Sanhedrin condemned Jesus for blasphemy (Matthew 26: 63-66); (Mark 14 :61).

Jesus also was eighty times called the Son of Man which means God and the Messiah for humans in the New Testament. In Psalm 80 he was also called the Son of Man and was to called the Son of Man throughout Ezekiel to.

Jesus came to life as a mortal divine being through an Immaculate Conception. Angel Gabriel told Jesus' mortal mother to be Mary that she would overpowered by the Holy Spirit and receive a child and that would be God's Son.

This story is found in the Gospels- (Luke 1:26-38)-" And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David". The book of Luke is considered a highly reliable historical source which I know nearly all my life and it is the word of God.

I think in some countries more signs of Christ and the Holy Spirit presence will convince more people that Jesus is the Son of God and that eternal life is near and they will a season at least a while and will stay like young cubs parked with a lion on grass with him.

More history confirming Jesus Christ life is the Dead Sea Scrolls-
The Dead Sea scrolls contain (Isaiah 53) prophecy which is about Jesus Christ life to come. These scrolls were found in caves south of Jericho in the Dead Sea are and contain Biblical evidence the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament. There are two scrolls Isaiah, one being complete. To our understanding of the period of time between the end of the Old Testament and the beginning of the New Testament times, and to a better understanding of Hebrew and Aramaic.

We have done the 1st resurrection of Christ and are waiting for the Rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) which will happen in a twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-52) and then will come the 2nd judgement and second coming and judgement and then New Earth/Heaven.

We should be working in the field till he comes-"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left." (Matthew 24:20).

This came up this week in my church and I wanted to share what my minister about this as I liked it about Jesus' light. It is a delight really.

I like (Luke 2. 22-40) about Jesus’ consecration and Simeon confirming that Jesus was the Messiah and longed to be the redeemer of Israel and their Messiah to come.
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This mass, this presentation of Christ at his consecration comes at the dying of that old age, that old age that there has been waiting for Christ to come. It comes at the ending of the long life of Simeon, of Anna as their lives
come towards their end. But we also have this juxtaposition
of the very old with that brand new so fresh that he almost still has the
labels on baby Jesus.

This infant Jesus inspires Simeon to sing that this tiny one will
be a light to lighten to what does it say in the reading we had a light for revelation to the Gentiles and to be the glory of God's people.

Jesus shines a light on the whole world to those who should know him and
recognise him, but also to those who have never been told of him in a way
that they can understand. And maybe we think they shouldn't be able to see his
light. The light of Jesus, his quality that he possesses is something that draws all people to him whether they recognise him by name or not or recognise him yet by name or not. Those virtues of love, of joy, of peace, of goodness, we see them in all manner of people. God's holy qualities. And perhaps one of our jobs as the church, as God's people, is to interpret that light that people see, to interpret that word as the person, the person of Jesus.

That shining brightness is the glory that God's people inhabit. that they
perhaps we have to live within. Living within glory is blazing and
brilliant but also quite a daunting challenge because when you live in glory nothing you do can be hidden. Living in glory means that all we do can be seen not only by those around us but as a judgment by them on the truth of what we say about Christ.

Living in that blazing light of Christ's glory, I think we can feel ourselves
exposed and maybe so we should be to know that we can measure ourselves up against those things of God that we are called out of and who we're called to
be. Simeon and Anna had put in that time of preparation. They had spent years
waiting at the temple. They'd spent years praying. They'd spent years reflecting on the scriptures.

It's not always easy to recognise the light when it comes. It's not always
easy to recognise the form that God's light takes in the world around us.
Those years of waiting, that time put into waiting and praying and reflecting
wasn't wasted because that meant that when Jesus arrived in the temple just
and the form of a baby, they were able to recognise him and to
praise God for him. And hopefully that will inspire us to
spend our time getting ready to notice that tiptoe potential for light when it
comes to us.

Just because a scripture - written when? says it happened, do you not think for yourself that it’s impossible for a virgin birth. Or do you just believe it because someone wrote in a scripture?

This is not why I started this thread to discuss this. However, for myself I think a virgin birth is possible. I believed it happened. The Holy Spirit can do many mysterious things and I have seen so in my life. The Bible tells us that Mary was put to sleep by the Holy Spirit and this overshadowed her and it is what we know and I do not need to know more.

I can tell you that Mary was purified and conscreated before this happened. God is Holy and santicifed and what he permits is clean and therefore Holy. I trust God's word in (Isaiah 46). Jesus fulfiled things and made it possible to more of us to have a relationship with the father because of our sin. He allowed us to have forgiveness of sins. You don’t believe this and that is your right, but many of us difer.

@Justmerach

To quote you again : " I like (Luke 2. 22-40) about Jesus’ consecration and Simeon confirming that Jesus was the Messiah and longed to be the redeemer of Israel and their Messiah to come."

My apologies, because this is supposed to be about son of god, but near every line about Christianity sends me off on a tangent. Although I think I can get back on track here.

From the verses you mention, let me pick some phrases. All quotes below LSV.

"And when the days of their purification were fulfilled, according to the Law of Moses, they brought Him up to Jerusalem, to present to the LORD,".

"Every male opening a womb will be called holy to the LORD,"

"and to give a sacrifice, according to that said in the Law of the LORD: "A pair of turtle-doves, or two young pigeons."

"for their doing according to the custom of the Law regarding Him"

"then he took Him in his arms, and blessed God,"

Why all the woo, magic words, magic all round ? Why do a pair of pigeons need to be sacrificed ? I mean if god wants a couple of pigeons for dinner, surely he can just magic them up himself. And really, god is all over, but here we have his son being taken to his temple. Why ?

Why does it all look so made up ?The same way as Harry Potter stories, as a PP mentioned?

And as a digression. Why do Christians never see this bit?

"and the glory of Your people Israel."

That is rather specific.

RedTagAlan I can say to your post above. Jews who was do anointed work for God were conscreated in this way using turtle doves. With Jesus going to the cross this ended. There was to be no more blood sarifice and Jesus was to be represent our sacraficial atonement with his lamb that is clean and has no blemish.
I wanted to follow this conscration process when I was confirmed and recieved into the church and I adopted a bird and hoped it would be flying out there for me. It is done.
I think it was good that Jesus was conscreated by God. With antichrists to come as well, it is a remembrance for some how Holy Jesus was as well.
I thought that Jesus was only one who could do miracles/healing. He had a predessor though Elisha who was a Jew, but did not have the divine ability of Jesus Christ. Elisha was consecrated to.

You never answered my question as to why the magic spells are needed. And now you have added antichrists into the mix.

If we go back to Exodus, where the Mosaic laws started to come in.

So this god lived on a volcano. He talked to Moses and gave him instructions. And then the Bible is about this God being put in a box and carried about. And this god is stronger than the other gods ( but there was a chariots of iron thing). This god also needs a special tent where he talks to Moses and Aaron, and many books later, this god is put into a special room in a temple, same rules apply.

And Jesus is the son of this god apparently, all the same rules still apply. Not one iota etc.

Why the dead pigeons ? Why the magic spells?

I haven’t committed any sin (horrible made up word) so not an issue for me

That is how they did this before Christ went to the cross. The use of doves signified an atonement sacrifice being made. In the old law people used to make animal sacrifices at the Tempe courtyards. I mentioned about the antichrists as some people will try and misrepresent Christ and it is clear as in Isaiah 9 that he will be Holy and this can be a remembrance to some people to of that he was conscreated by God.

Now to consecrate ourselves to Christ today we are simply asked to devote ourselves to his mission.

This is where my Bible enters on consecration-
(Micah 4:13), (Hebrew 7:28), (Hebrew, 10:20), (Luke 2. 22-40)

@Parker231 according to my faith there are sins we can be tempted to do as humans as none of us our perfect. The sins are listed in the Bible and we are not to think as one as greater than another. The only person who came in a human form and is to come is the complete one which is Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 13:10). If you don't follow it you don't follow it and don't see it that way and this is not pertaining to your life and your beliefs.

Yeah. This sin, and how it's decided puzzles me.

It's a sin to masturbate, Genesis 38, but its ok, and actually demanded, to genocide the Canaanites because they are all descended from Noah's son Ham,. Ham had thrown a cover over his dad Noah as he lay naked, pissed and passed out from drinking wine. So because Ham was considerate to his 900 year old pissed dad, genocide good.

But back to this son of god. A fella who, incidentally, made clear that he believed in the OT.

How do you know that what is written in the bible is true - some obviously isn’t so it questions it’s credibility.

A son of Joseph - became a teacher, got in with the wrong crowd and got killed - standard punishment of the times. End of - nothing happened to him after that.

So, basically saying the Bible is correct?

This about the Christian faith which is built on the word of God, which is in the Bible and this is about scripture and about biblical text primarily.

@RedTagAlan to your previous posts about the Israelites and your last comment.

Jesus followed custom as a Jew by following the Mosaic law and obeyed his father’s law and worshipped in the synagogue to and prayed to his father. This continued to he went on the cross and he brought the former law to a logical conclusion. He was charged by false witnesses as a law breaker, but he didn’t break the law, he fulfilled it. Following the law till he went on the Cross is more evidence he was not a law breaker as well. The Bible says that the Son of God would be the redeemer of the Israelites, but it is clear his views to all people are shown in (Galatians 3:28) that we are all equal before God, Jew or Greek, man or woman etc, slave or not. It is God’s decision that Jesus will redeem the Israelites.

You missed the next verse.

Gal 3:29 "and if you [are] of Christ then you are seed of Abraham, and heirs according to promise." (LSV)

What promise ?

And DNA data suggests this verse is wrong,

I can say that God see's all of us as Christians as adopted children of God through his Son Jesus. God accepts us as all if we follow him.

Jesus' promise is of eternal life to the next life for those who are passed as fit to do so before him and not a spiritual death. In the next life there will be a New Earth and Heaven. The promises are for the former things in this life of pain and sorrow to be done as well.

(Revelations 21:4)
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

(Ephesians 1:5)- "Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will.”

(Galatians 4:4-7)- "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.”

(John 1:12)- "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God."

When you are trying understand scripture you are meant to approach in a spiritual mindset and not a wordly carnal mindset. I am not saying that some of you are, but you may not understand it if you are not approaching it in a spiritual mindset.

What do you (no copying and pasting) think will happen to those of us who are non believers?

Yeah. Gish gallop, rather than pick one verse and explain how it is relevant to the post being replied to.

Also, Christians also miss out progressive order. They talk about Abraham and Revelation in the same paragraph while ignoring that Abraham predates Mosaic law, Isreal, Jesus.. and near everything.

I always amazes me how the Hebrews managed 400 years of bondage in Egypt, maintaining their religion and customs etc, when their religion had not even been invented. Moses invented it, after the 400 years. Passover is really the start of it's invention. So what were they doing for 400 years ?

To me it's like watching a detective series on telly, and in the last minute, a butler appears, and the detective says, "the butler did it".

There is no Satan in the OT. That's another one that gets me. Satan appears alongside Jesus, but Christians say he was always there.

I have to be guided by what the Bible says. The Bible says that non believers and those who will not be seen as fit before Christ as true believers will not see eternal life. I do find this difficult of course as many good people are not Christians to and the Bible says itself there will be gnashing of teeth when this happens in a twinkling of an eye.

One thing I hope is for those who may not make it through is that the Bible says that there is a pit of hell and may be it is demons who go there and not good people who were not believers etc. I will judged to if to make it through like everybody else. I was thinking may be there is a level 1 in hell which just means absence of God where you will be and be not as difficult as in the pit of hell with the demons. This is based to a bit on Dante's version of hell. God is merciful and I hope a level 1 will not be too difficult.

I think before criticial moments before the end times more people will become Christians as it has to happen by the scripture.

I’ve zero intention of ever becoming a Christian - why would I become something I don’t believe in or that has any credibility?

I don’t believe in heaven or hell - they are control mechanisms to try and make people behave in a certain way. We will all end up in the same place when we die - in a hole in the ground - we only have one life - just make the best of it without any religious constraints restricting you.

I was a born again Christian for over 20 years. It's how I know the Bible fairly well.

Although I am atheist now, I reckon this debate with yourself would not be massively different If I were now a Christian of a different denomination.

Hi can I ask you what made you leave, recently I read about Kemi Badenoch who left Christanity because of the Elizabeth Fritzl case as the final catalyst in the end. This was the old question of why suffering happens in the world. She now follows Christian values.

https://premierchristian.news/en/news/article/kemi-badenoch-reveals-how-she-lost-her-faith-in-god

Btw, I am a non denominational Christian and follower of Jesus Christ. I will not join any denomination. I was baptised as a Catholic and its the schooling I had. I am recieved and confirmed into the church. I don't advocate for any specific church if they follow the teachings of Christ. Different church's may be suited in style to different people. I attend an Anglican church today as a non denominational Christian.

Yes, the carrot of eternal life and the stick of eternal damnation are control mechanisms from a time before the rule of law was strong.

That’s not what she said. She said she’s a cultural Christian. That means things like being familiar with the tenets of Christianity, possibly going to church for funerals and weddings, maybe liking Christian choral music and medieval art. I’m a cultural Catholic, for instance. I know all the liturgies, the hymns, the catechism, the Bible, I was baptised and confirmed, grew up in a devout household, with parents who were and are daily mass goers, and educated at convent schools from four to eighteen. That doesnt mean I think Christianity is anything other than a man-made confection of wishful thinking and fear of death.

Job was tested by Satan in the Book of Job. Some say to that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was architected by Satan as well.

@Wapentake thank you in your recent post for informing me what cultural christian means in your view who follows this.

Re the book of job: it's not part of the bible story is it ? It's totally separate. Different names, different places, and is not mentioned anywhere else in the Bible apart from a minor prophet I think.

Satan had to be invented when the concept of God was changed from a vengeful one to an all loving one. Same as how the books of Enoch were scrubbed when then the idea of a single god was invented ( see Gen 6:2)

Satan is not mentioned by Moses. Is nowhere in the Pentateuch . The Adam and eve story has a serpent, not Satan.

Why does Moses not mention Satan, or Joshua, or any other book in the OT?

What de-converted me from Christianity ? Acts 5. The story of the couple struck down dead in front of the Apostles.