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Atheists desecrate country church

351 replies

peasporridge · 19/04/2025 08:12

The perpetrators drew vulgar graffiti on the wall of the church an also wrote "God is a lie".
They also desecrated about 40 gravestones.

This is particularly distressing because a wedding is scheduled today (Easter Saturday)

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/sickening-blasphemous-cowardly-church-gravestones-140717226.html

https://www.blogpreston.co.uk/2025/04/police-investigating-after-st-james-church-and-over-40-graves-defaced-ahead-of-good-friday/

This clearly demonstrates that Christianity is under threat.from the secular lobby.

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AngelinaFibres · 19/04/2025 12:48

CurlewKate · 19/04/2025 12:45

Obviously nobody knows who did it. But if you hear hooves outside your window in Sussex it’s more likely to be horses than zebras…

Or Satan

Catlady63 · 19/04/2025 12:50

peasporridge · 19/04/2025 10:04

@ArtemisiaTheArtist "The OP immediately blamed one group over all others, without evidence"

The obvious evidence was written on the church wall - next to the drawing of a giant willy.

OP was it a picture of Richard Dawkin's willy, I've heard it is impressive?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 19/04/2025 12:51

AngelinaFibres · 19/04/2025 12:48

Or Satan

ManBearPig

AlmanbyRoadtrip · 19/04/2025 12:52

There are many faith schools in South Ribble. St Mary’s High School is the nearest one to this church iirc, so it’s wrong to say a significant number of children in the area only get the basic ‘daily act of broadly Christian worship’.

Dontcallmescarface · 19/04/2025 12:58

IMHO if Atheists where to attack Christianity on Good Friday, then they would have chosen somewhere more prominent than a small church in a place that most people have never heard of.

pikkumyy77 · 19/04/2025 13:02

peasporridge · 19/04/2025 08:58

@BangersAndGnash "Let’s all work together against criminals rather than stirring up factions against each other."

That's reasonable, yet we still get comments about Christianity being about "Sky fairies", "men dressing up in fancy dress" etc on these boards.

Isn’t there something, somewhere, about not bearing false witness? And perhaps also relevant here on turning the other cheek?

Accusing all atheists of being in some kind of “lobby group” that aims to vandalize and hurt your community is a libel. Its also an absurd overreach. Vandals and graffiti artists exist in every community and for every reason. is someone who scrawls obscenities under a railway bridge anti railways?

Christians have been leaving graffiti and destroying each others churches for centuries—did you not notice your own religious wars and the seizing of the monasteries? Or ever notice the graffiti in your own churches? Its not because of the atheists.

BethDuttonYeHaw · 19/04/2025 13:03

It’s hooliganism not atheism.

ItGhoul · 19/04/2025 13:14

It doesn’t, in the slightest, indicate anything at all about ‘the secular lobby’ because the secular lobby has no issue with people worshipping God. The secular lobby simply believes that church and state should be separate.

CurlewKate · 19/04/2025 13:21

I wish people knew what secular meant.

CurlewKate · 19/04/2025 13:25

@ItGhoul Snap!

LeaningOnTheEverlastingArms · 19/04/2025 13:44

CurlewKate · 19/04/2025 12:30

Really? I thought we were talking about whether or not Christians were under attack in the UK?

This particular line of dialogue seems to be focussed on how to tell if someone is praying silently or not as evidenced by your question

“How did anyone know she was praying silently if she was praying silently?”

The thread itself is about an attack on a church building.

I’m suggesting another thread to discuss your question might be helpful, that’s all.

Cornetto3 · 19/04/2025 13:50

peasporridge · 19/04/2025 09:22

"Christians are not victims of persecution in the UK."

I beg to differ.

Muslims are allowed to pray in the streets yet Christians get arrested.https://adfinternational.org/en-gb/news/silent-prayer-arrest-payout

West Midlands Police pay out £13,000 to Christian volunteer “unlawfully” arrested for praying silently near an abortion facility

She was clearly making people (probably mostly women) uncomfortable for using the abortion facility.

Be against abortion if you must. But do not enforce your views on others.

The majority of women going to places to like these are not going for giggles are they? They know that some people do not approve, but some weirdo praying is not going to change the facts of why they are there, and should basically be more "Christian caring" and support women during their difficult times!

Cornetto3 · 19/04/2025 13:55

LeaningOnTheEverlastingArms · 19/04/2025 09:50

Watching a thread about a despicable targeted physical attack on a Christian place of worship being hijacked into a “let’s criticise Christians“ thread.
Peak Mumsnet

Not really, op said it was an attack against Christians.

Posters pointed out most twatty teenagers

She then said a woman was not allowed to silently pray ...... outside an abortion clinic

No one gives a shit what diety you believe in, you're crazy that atheists think that much about it. What we (i know i am grouping) care about is not being arseholes.

HTH

pikkumyy77 · 19/04/2025 14:04

After “praying” in-front of abortion clinics comes the murder of the doctors and nurses there, the firebombing if clinics, and the destruction of health care services for the other women attending the clinic. That has been the trajectory in the US. I wonder why these people never interfere with business at porn films, stake out the homes of wealthy men who use prostitutes, or risk blockading the embassies of countries at war over war crimes. Why do they only block and harrass women seeking medical care? Its a mystery!

CurlewKate · 19/04/2025 14:13

LeaningOnTheEverlastingArms · 19/04/2025 13:44

This particular line of dialogue seems to be focussed on how to tell if someone is praying silently or not as evidenced by your question

“How did anyone know she was praying silently if she was praying silently?”

The thread itself is about an attack on a church building.

I’m suggesting another thread to discuss your question might be helpful, that’s all.

I didn’t raise the point about the silent prayer outside the abortion clinic. I merely wanted to know from the person who did raise it, how anyone could tell she was praying if she was silent. Sorry if that’s a ….what was the word you used?..an uncomfortable question.

Cornetto3 · 19/04/2025 14:14

noblegiraffe · 19/04/2025 12:34

You don't know whether it is more likely to be kids drawing cock and balls graffiti and the dead emoji on gravestones during the school holidays than a careful, targeted attack by adult anti-Christian campaigners who specifically chose Good Friday for its religious significance?

Ok.

As a kid/ teenager easter was just 2 weeks off school and chocolate eggs.

That was it, I went to a church school (CofE) it was never made a big deal. The only place I've seen it as important really is here

Lorlorlorikeet · 19/04/2025 14:16

peasporridge · 19/04/2025 12:10

Well. it seems the courts found in her favour.

That’s not what I asked.

Lorlorlorikeet · 19/04/2025 14:19

Old churches are quite nice buildings. The new ones are gopping. Most of the people who go to them are generally quite nice. But I find organised religion to be an absolute scourge.

ArtemisiaTheArtist · 19/04/2025 14:29

God is omnipresent, apparently. If you want to pray for unborn children's souls, do it at home or in church, not in the vicinity of an abortion facility. He can hear you wherever you are.

AlteredStater · 19/04/2025 15:37

Lorlorlorikeet · 19/04/2025 12:01

And you support the actions of that ‘Christian’ do you? Her judgemental actions were repulsive.

How are silent prayers repulsive?

FenellaFeldman · 19/04/2025 15:38

ArtemisiaTheArtist · 19/04/2025 14:29

God is omnipresent, apparently. If you want to pray for unborn children's souls, do it at home or in church, not in the vicinity of an abortion facility. He can hear you wherever you are.

Or She.

Funnywonder · 19/04/2025 15:42

There is no way of knowing if this was carried out specifically by atheists, despite the nature of the graffiti. It’s a disgrace, but it strikes me as the work of vandals rather than people with a coherent message. When I was growing up in Belfast, there was plenty of graffiti, one of the favourite slogans being ‘Up the Ra’ or ‘Up the UDA’, depending on their paramilitary group of choice. The people who did this (most likely kids) would have shat themselves if a member of the paramilitaries had so much as glanced in their direction. It was all grandstanding and bluster.

There are some really pathetic and idiotic people in the world who like to destroy things, then get a kick out of watching people’s outrage.

HereintheloveofChristIstand · 19/04/2025 16:34

FenellaFeldman · 19/04/2025 09:19

That's very touching, what decent people.

lt was honestly like a scene from call the midwife. The community coming together. I remember there being glass on the floor and another man saying ‘don’t you touch that love, leave it to us’

I said to my overwhelmed friend ‘come on let’s get on with what we are good at’ and made 30 cups of tea for the helpers

FenellaFeldman · 19/04/2025 16:35

HereintheloveofChristIstand · 19/04/2025 16:34

lt was honestly like a scene from call the midwife. The community coming together. I remember there being glass on the floor and another man saying ‘don’t you touch that love, leave it to us’

I said to my overwhelmed friend ‘come on let’s get on with what we are good at’ and made 30 cups of tea for the helpers

🌻