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What does everyone think of polygamy in Islam

62 replies

aliahb · 10/02/2025 04:32

How can it be possible for a man to have 4 wives and treat them all equally?

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Porridgeislife · 10/02/2025 18:29

HowardTJMoon · 10/02/2025 17:45

Some Mormons absolutely are polygamists. New polygamous marriages were stopped (eventually, and only after the government started threatening the chuch's money and power) in some Mormon sects but by no means all. And existing polygamous marriages were allowed to continue. Those are facts.

Those sects aren’t recognised as Mormons by the LDS Church. The LDS stopped polygamy in 1890.

The offshoot fundamentalist sects also generally don’t consider themselves to be LDS. Mormon fundamentalism is considered to be beyond the pale given the frequency that senior men end up in jail convicted of underage marriage, child trafficking and rape.

I mean, the idea of a religion based on a shyster who conveniently said the relevant angel said no every time someone asked to see the golden plates is wild in and of itself, but let’s not ascribe polygamy to them as well.

coldcallerbaiter · 10/02/2025 18:54

Wasn’t it originally to do with widows being taken in to a household so they would not starve? It seems outdated in that case. If it is common, what I do not understand is how there are enough women to go round. Surely there are men who cannot find any wife at all due to this. Unless it is only elite or rich men that can afford it.

I mean if you watch nature programs it is often one male has a harem and the younger ones fight him to take his place and so on. It leaves the majority of males mateless though. Survival of the fittest genes.

Feelingathomenow · 10/02/2025 19:39

No longer required in modern times, fundamentally misogynistic

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 10/02/2025 21:57

HowardTJMoon · 10/02/2025 17:45

Some Mormons absolutely are polygamists. New polygamous marriages were stopped (eventually, and only after the government started threatening the chuch's money and power) in some Mormon sects but by no means all. And existing polygamous marriages were allowed to continue. Those are facts.

You basically said the same thing I did in a different way that some sects continue and yea it is against the law even with existing marriages. Google the facts of you need to it’s not hard.

Polygamy is the practice of having more than one spouse at the same time. Polygamy as a crime originated in the common law , and it is now outlawed in every state. In the United States, polygamy was declared unlawful through the passing of Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act of 1882.

https://www.law.cornell.edu
polygamy | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 10/02/2025 22:01

Flakeisanakedtwirl · 10/02/2025 05:23

FLDS sister wives live together in the same house - muslim wives require a separate house each, and everything should be divided equally. So the set up of their daily lives and motivations is very different.

No they don’t always live together. It’s preferred but not required.

HowardTJMoon · 10/02/2025 22:04

@Porridgeislife That one bunch of self-described Mormons regard some a different bunch of self-described Mormons as not doing Mormonism properly is not that surprising. There's a lot of self-described Christians who believe that many other self-described Christians aren't doing Christianity properly, and the same for different sects of Islam and so on. If someone tells me they're Mormon, or Christian, or Muslim etc then it's not my place to tell them they're not. If they can't decide among themselves I've got no chance so I just have to take them at their word.

Screamingabdabz · 10/02/2025 22:12

It’s treating women like chattels. Look where the power lies. It’s totally misogynistic and therefore there is nothing holy or worthy about it. The charitable origin story is a very convenient male spin on it all.

HowardTJMoon · 10/02/2025 22:22

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 10/02/2025 21:57

You basically said the same thing I did in a different way that some sects continue and yea it is against the law even with existing marriages. Google the facts of you need to it’s not hard.

Polygamy is the practice of having more than one spouse at the same time. Polygamy as a crime originated in the common law , and it is now outlawed in every state. In the United States, polygamy was declared unlawful through the passing of Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act of 1882.

https://www.law.cornell.edu
polygamy | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

Edited

Polygamy was actually made illegal in the US via the Morrill Anti-Bigamy act of 1862 although it was not effectively enforced. But my point wasn't really about the legal side. My point was that despite the increasing number of laws against polygamy which many Mormons ignored, it took the Mormon church until 1890 to be dragged, kicking and screaming, to the point of finally saying that new polygamous marriages were wrong. But that existing polygamous marriages were fine (albeit technically illegal). Many in the Mormon church vehemently disagreed, and Mormon polygamous marriages continued on after that date albeit more rarely.

Google the facts of the Edmunds-Tucker act of 1887 if you need to, it's not hard. That was the one that demanded the disincorporation of the LDS Church and its PEF slush fund because of the Church's repeated promotion of polygamous marriages. And remember that despite that, it still took until 1890 for Woodruff to finally be "inspired" to write his manifesto.

LaundryPond · 10/02/2025 22:39

Peacecanbe · 10/02/2025 08:52

I don’t see why it’s inherently a problem. It’s not the model in the west but that doesn’t make it awful. That said the family I remember from the 70s who lived like this, the households did not get on at all and there was a lot of resentment and jealousy. I am myself naturally monogamous but I don’t think those who aren’t are “wrong” any more than as a heterosexual I would be negative about homosexuality.

Sure, if it were customary for women to be free to take multiple husbands.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 10/02/2025 22:50

HowardTJMoon · 10/02/2025 22:22

Polygamy was actually made illegal in the US via the Morrill Anti-Bigamy act of 1862 although it was not effectively enforced. But my point wasn't really about the legal side. My point was that despite the increasing number of laws against polygamy which many Mormons ignored, it took the Mormon church until 1890 to be dragged, kicking and screaming, to the point of finally saying that new polygamous marriages were wrong. But that existing polygamous marriages were fine (albeit technically illegal). Many in the Mormon church vehemently disagreed, and Mormon polygamous marriages continued on after that date albeit more rarely.

Google the facts of the Edmunds-Tucker act of 1887 if you need to, it's not hard. That was the one that demanded the disincorporation of the LDS Church and its PEF slush fund because of the Church's repeated promotion of polygamous marriages. And remember that despite that, it still took until 1890 for Woodruff to finally be "inspired" to write his manifesto.

Thanks I know all of this already. Studied it quite a bit in university thank you.

Peacecanbe · 11/02/2025 00:48

LaundryPond · 10/02/2025 22:39

Sure, if it were customary for women to be free to take multiple husbands.

I don’t see that really. I know many women who have multiple partners but them of them choose to live in households with multiple male partners. I certainly have heard of groups of women who live together and are intimate/bonded (partners doesn’t really work does it?). I don’t know any personally though.

I just see it as different ways of living rather than assuming my way (seriously unremarkable here) being the “correct way”.

bombastix · 11/02/2025 12:24

Screamingabdabz · 10/02/2025 22:12

It’s treating women like chattels. Look where the power lies. It’s totally misogynistic and therefore there is nothing holy or worthy about it. The charitable origin story is a very convenient male spin on it all.

Yes. Being one of set of livestock pretty much guarantees a woman less.

Still, what does it matter? You can be one of several cows to be farmed by your owner.

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