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Will you make it to Heaven?

829 replies

Vincitveritas · 12/03/2023 11:54

Take the quiz and see!

jesusplusnothing.com/the-heaven-test

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pointythings · 15/03/2023 16:13

I should add to that the fact that I feel the Biblical story of Onan is incredibly problematic - this man was killed by God for refusing to inseminate his brother's widow. What about free will?

Sunsea21 · 15/03/2023 16:13

I don’t really get the point of the quiz. Salvation is not through anything we have done, the bible repeatedly says this. The only way is through Jesus’ sacrifice

Shouldershrugger · 15/03/2023 16:15

I guess I'll meet you guys in hell

watmel · 15/03/2023 16:43

Vincitveritas · 15/03/2023 15:08

@PopsicleHustler Wow, so much to unpack! I'll have to work through your post when time allows. I have addressed some of your points to a pp on previous threads.

@pointythings The rules don't change because God is unchanging. The boundaries are there to keep us safe. I trust there is good reason for not allowing sex outside of marriage - fewer STDs and unwanted pregnancies to start with. Sex is supposed to feel good, it was made for pleasure as well as procreation, but it's been perverted through sin.

Shouldn't the bible to be telling us all to have gay sex then? No chance of unwanted pregnancy there...

pointythings · 15/03/2023 16:46

Well, according to some people you can't do that either, @watmel . Though since lesbians aren't mentioned, they might get away with it.

OnMyWayToSenility · 15/03/2023 16:47

Definitely going to a higher plane! Or get recycled if I come back as a dog possibly a bird I'd be happy 😃

Some of the worst people I know call them selves Christians or god loving! 🤣

PopsicleHustler · 15/03/2023 17:12

@OnMyWayToSenility my grandmother said she is coming back as a dog because the family dog was so loved, and she said it would be great to be spoiled and cooed over like Lassie is! Haha. We used to all laugh but she meant it. I think. Bless her, she was very funny and kind .

PopsicleHustler · 15/03/2023 17:30

You think a lot like me, OP. I agree with you on a lot of things. :) just apart from jesus being God or son of God, it is there we differ. For me I was a Christian before but for me, every single sunday at church, was worshipping jesus and Thank you jesus, at every single sermon and I left. I just thought I will keep up my worship at home.directed to God only. And then I was also experiencing a lot of things with bad spirits in the home. I was having a rough time of it. And then I prayed To God, please let me meet a good and religious man and literally weeks later I kept bumping into my husband. I told him I was a Christian and he said no problem, I am a muslim and I have an open mind , I didn't mind. We connected and he told me about jesus's place in islam. We believe he healed the blind and the leper and rose the dead and we believe he was a miracle birth. We also believe that he is going to come back and kill the one eyed beast, aka Dajjal. You see all these people like beyonce and Rihanna, they all worship him and the devil by doing their one eye symbol. We believe he will come back and deny he is God, he will kill the dajjal, and then live the rest of his life, I.e get married and have children and then ascend to heaven again to be with Allah. The one true God. Christianity preaches one God, just like Islam. I fell in love with it and I knew that is what I was searching for. I took my testimony of faith and have been a muslim and married with children being raised in this faith for almost 2 decades.

As for the pp, asking about pork and claimingI dont know much about pigs.... I actually stopped eating pork even before I was Muslim as my muslim friends wouldn't eat it and I also wondered why. So I did my research, pigs have hepatitis and tape worm. They also eat their own poo, which contains parasites and maggots from flies that stay alive inside them. It has been proven scientifically on YouTube that if you pour coca cola on raw pork, it causes the maggots to rise still alive! Pigs also dont have sweat glands so they sweat internally. Pigs are also churned whole in a machine to make sausages, so their brains, private parts and anus, lungs, liver, flesh, blood and stomach contents all go into the sausages. Yuck!

Somebodiesmother · 15/03/2023 17:36

Eh, I'm a universalist, everyone gets to go to heaven.

OnMyWayToSenility · 15/03/2023 17:40

@PopsicleHustler exactly our dog has a wonderful life 😀 also extremely strong and graceful.

I'd like to think I'm a good person with out the need to label it as such.

Do good, help others in need, and be understanding. Suffering is a human condition and we're not being punished it's life and be grateful for every good moment.

neverendinglauaundry · 15/03/2023 17:42

@Vincitveritas actual lol

Cleargreysky · 15/03/2023 17:47

I got 45 to 65% chance despite being an atheist who never puts God first and blasphemes, hates lies and Lusts!

Frankly the bar for Heaven entry is far lower than I thought. Grin

blitzen · 15/03/2023 17:48

85-99% but it basically said I shouldn't count my chickens.

pointythings · 15/03/2023 17:49

It has been proven scientifically on YouTube

@PopsicleHustler you lost me at that sentence 😂. What a ridiculous thing to say.
Anyway, insects are a healthy source of protein. We'll all be eating them in a few years' time. In any case, not all pigs have internal parasites (though I imagine wild boar do) and internal parasites don't live in the cuts that we tend to eat.

Have you ever lived on a farm? I have.

I don't actually mind eating all parts of an animal. It avoids food waste. As long as it is thoroughly cooked through with food hygiene observed throughout, pork is no higher risk than beef, chicken or lamb. But if you want to be sniffy about it because of your faith, more power to you.

JaneJeffer · 15/03/2023 17:52

You are the most dangerous type of person to our faith, and we feel you only know enough about Paganism so that you can find us to burn us at the stake.
🤣 the most bullshit quiz ever

JaneJeffer · 15/03/2023 17:54

Or maybe it's a type of building developed by the Romans which is today know as an Annex

Will you make it to Heaven?
pointythings · 15/03/2023 17:55

@JaneJeffer yes, it's a very silly quiz. As is the OP's.

baggyblouses · 15/03/2023 18:09

65 to 85 percent. Good job I don't believe in organised religion

StopStartStop · 15/03/2023 18:38

@Vincitveritas
The lapse is due to the NDE, I think. 'Nudge me gently in Your ways, O Lord'. Love that overcomes all.

BeverlyHa · 15/03/2023 18:40

I would never for a minute joke with Heaven and hell issues, but take the blood sacrifice for me of Jesus seriously, believe Him and that is that.

BeverlyHa · 15/03/2023 18:41

And amen, thank you to whoever started the thread. As a believer in God i always pray for women's posts here but never would post religiously ...out of respect to the many left wingers

Orangetapemeasure · 15/03/2023 18:44

No. Not according to my mum or the church she sent me to as a teenager. Having sex before marriage ensures an easy ride to hell. When I had an unplanned child out of wedlock (in my mid 30s) I spent the first year of her life expecting to find her dead in her cot as punishment. I don’t go to church anymore.

Vincitveritas · 15/03/2023 18:48

pointythings · 15/03/2023 16:10

@Vincitveritas but that's just what your god and your church say. Since I do not believe your god exists and do not accept that your church has any moral authority over me, the matter is moot. I won't get into the abortion debate with you, but I will say that there are cases where abortion is absolutely the moral thing to do. It's called termination for medical reasons. So the picture is not as simplistic as you make it out to be.

Why is it wrong for a single person to masturbate while fantasising about someone? I can see the pornography issue (though there is of course always written porn with no pictures, where again I cannot see the harm unless it's about things involving rape, violence, underage participants etc. - consenting adults are nobody's business but their own).

Yes, as a non believer you reserve the right to live your own life as you see fit, within the parameters of the law. I don't want to get into a debate about abortion either, but I would make an exception for cases where it would be a medical necessity.

In terms of sexual fantasies I'd say it's because there's quite often a progression. For example, Amnon was attracted to his half sister Tamar and went on to rape her. David fell in love with Bathsheba, which then led to the death of her husband who he purposely sent to the front line of battle. Lusting after someone else's husband or wife could potentially result in an actual affair. Similarly, people who read explicit literature might be desensitised and move to watching pornography, which in turn causes further desensitisation and seeking out more and more depraved images for the same kicks. If married, it could also cause the spouse to be dissatisfied with their husband or wife, create conflict and eventually end in divorce.

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Vincitveritas · 15/03/2023 18:52

@neverendinglauaundry lol?

@JaneJeffer Wrong quiz!

@Somebodiesmother What do you base that on?

@Sunsea21 Please read the results of the quiz, it should explain that.

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poweredbysteam · 15/03/2023 18:57

BeverlyHa · 15/03/2023 18:41

And amen, thank you to whoever started the thread. As a believer in God i always pray for women's posts here but never would post religiously ...out of respect to the many left wingers

Not sure I see the relevance of left wingers.