Cosmic Ordering - let's try again?

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Logically I know it "should" be a load of crap but every time I've tried it, I've received what I asked for. Way back as an 8 year old we were moving house and I so desperately wanted a garden with steps on the path (no idea why). I visualised it and "prayed" for it and the house we ended up with had two steps on the path which was very rare in that area.

More recently I stumbled across the concept of cosmic ordering and decided to "order" a money find. A few nights later we were walking through a graveyard and there on the ground wet through and covered in muck was a £10 note staring up at me. I put it down to co-incidence.

A couple of years later I met a guy, fell in love with him and looking back it was obvious that I liked him more than he liked me ... So out of desperation I "cosmically ordered" for him to tell me he loved me on one specific night. So there we are, camping in a field, messing around and I do something daft and he laughs and says "oh god, I love you!" - he was not being serious, he was being sarcy but he still said it.

So a few months later I placed a cosmic order for him to say he loved me and meant it. So there we are, great night out, we're back in the hotel, he'd not said it. I tried to prompt it by asking how he thought the relationship was going and he said "great, but let's take it slow eh? I mean, I don't want to say I love you ... We've not been together long ... But I do, I do love you ..." Wtf? Cosmic order granted but not quite in the way I'd hoped.

A year later, we're still together. I place a cosmic order for him to ask me to marry him on this specific night. So we're sat in a restraunt and I do not prompt the conversation at all. All of a sudden he laughs and says "let's run off and get married in Vegas?". I didn't know how to take it so didn't say anything .. He then added - "I'm joking ..."

A few days ago I "ordered" an iphone 5c in green for less than £300 - that same night dp told me he'd won me that same phone on ebay for £260 (almost impossible to get one so cheap in "like new" condition.

It just seems that I get everything I ask for when I try it but never in a way I expect it. Does anyone else have any stories about cosmic ordering?
If you're not into it, don't take the piss please :-)

Today, I'm going to try it again. I'm going to start small and order the sighting of a red balloon by the end of the day. I'll update tonight whether or not it appeared.

Techno, what should Steve Jobs have done? Did he use CO? What did he ask for?

Techno - as I am sure you realise one piece of research is not enough to get the therapy into the NHS. I have studied alot of complementary therapy research but the biggest issue involving this kind of research is that we don't have the backing or big drug companies to pay for research.

Distant healing on people with advanced AIDS? Are you joking?

And please do share Albert Einstein's interesting views on energy. I'm agog.

But Stick,

Clearly the children in Africa don't want food "enough" and the cosmic benefit of them having food is no where near as high as Colin's need to clients.

Quite a grotesque view on the world if you as me.

Hettie - yes it is possible to love a good debate and still want a respectful adult discussion. I can cope with hearing others views just don't think it needs to be so judgemental! It you think it is emtionally manipulative then fine but I am not being manipulative at all in wanting less rudeness. I am not attempting to stop anyone from saying what they want. Notice I am in fact conversing with the people who are being reasonable.

I've not read the while thread, I am VERY into woo but this is vile to me.
You work or deserve what you get.

You don't pray for it.

Or cosmic order.
Ugh

"We don't have the backing or big drug companies to pay for research."

Two things. First, CAM is big business. And second, if the big drug companies felt that there was the slightest chance of any nice cheap CAM actually working they would be in there like rats up drainpipes.

Tecno - what a daft thing to say. I have always said that I don;'t think it works for lots of things. I am an anti-poverty campaigner and have done lots of things to try and improve the lives of people that are in Africa so I don't feel guilty about that all.

But people do meaningful research on a shoestring budget.

How much does it cost to have a number of volunteers and a clipboard.

Graphine was discovered a mistake in an office with a bit of Sellotape and a pencil.

Of course drugs companies won't sponsor it, it doesn't sell drugs. Derrrr

Because it is isn't it, praying for some magic to happen.

What about good people to which bad stuff happens.

Can someone sum up the thread as the last few posts are confusing me lol

Why is it a stupid thing to say. You said that all someone needs to do it work at something and it be a high quality result for the cosmos. Maybe the cosmos doesn't like African babies. I suspect that might be the reason.

Can you answer my question at 17:47 please.

Ta.

Please tell me about Einstein's take on energy.

My views are judgemental, I'm afraid. I think that the kind of stuff you peddle is not only a load of rubbish but dangerous to boot.

And what university funded research into distance healing of AIDS patients?

colin we don't need paper copies. There will be open source links to the study, that would be fine. Just google what you can remember.

Rf the not for profit, my point was just that you are not alone in working for the greater good. I work for a university in fact. As I suspect you may be beginning to realise.

There is a tiny study on pubmed here, perhaps that's its? 40 people. aids study

nd the summary by the publishers says "does this paper prove that prayer works? No. "

If you look to the right at other studies, Beast, there's a bigger one with 150 patients. No evidence that distance healing is effective.

Another study looking at the same thing with regard to skin warts rather than AIDS. Same result.

Thing is prayer or cosmic ordering does not require studies. They are free and available to everyone anyway.

^ I say this because research usually involves funding and money being made off the back if it.

"Thing is prayer or cosmic ordering does not require studies. They are free and available to everyone anyway."

They do if people make categorical statements that they work. And tell other people that they do.

cap the point is not that people can't do prayer or distance healing without studies.

The point is that without a study, you don't know if it works or not.

With a study, as hettie pointed out, you do know.

Study 1 on a small number of people said, hmm, interesting but inconclusive, need to look at more people.

Study number 2 did look at more people and said, nope, doesn't work at all, sorry.

colin referred to the first study but not the second. So he still retains the message that "there might be something in this" and has not received the message "sorry, no, we checked, it doesn't work at all".

Which I am faire is sadly typical of this kind of debate. Sincere people, badly informed, allowing wishful thinking to lead them into making sweeping and unsupported statements about the power of prayer/distance healing/ CO.

It doesn't work folks. Sorry, but there you go.

Faire= afraid

I would like to cosmically order a new job

one that I am good at, that uses my skills proficiently and where I feel I can make a real difference.

But the power of placebo is proven scientifically.

It is a fine line. Placebo works and complimentary medicine is a placebo, but it doesn't work in the way that practitioners claim.

However, if you tell everyone that it doesn't work, then then placebo effect stops to work too.

Very interesting paradox, but doesn't stop CO being nonsense in its own right!

Colin.

I would really appreciate an answer to my questions at 17:47 if you are still there.

The thing is, techno if Colin were to agree to that, he could no longer use CO to promote his business, because it would not be in the best interests of humanity any longer.