Welcome to muslim tea room 2.

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Peace to you all

Ok, well here it is again...we have moved to room 2 now

Discuss whatever aspect of islam you like my lovely sisters - this is a place for muslims and non-muslims too, to share experiences, raising kids or just having your say!

The kettle is on.... We have loads of herbal teas, coffee and guava juice .... I like guava juice so welcome!

OMG that looks so amazing mashallah I'd love to go to something like that.

Come back and give us a review inshallah, let us know if you attend the talks.

Salaam all.

crescent that family break sounds amazing. I would have gone if circumstances had allowed. I hope they have it next year too, then inshallah i should be able to go. I have been looking at the details (not that i can go!) and am a bit confused. It says that its a 4 day break (18-21) so does that mean its a 3 night stay at the hotel with meals over 4 days included? Because elsewhere it says that activities are covered for saturday and sunday. Doesnt mention other days.

De vere hotel near leeds is absolutely gorgeous. If this is anything like that one, then it will be a lovely stay inshallah.

hello and salaam ladies! I need to catch up on the thread to reply properly but just wanted to say hello while I have some time. I have been really busy this week as after job hunting for 6 months I finally got a new job! Am so happy, I start on Monday though so I have had lots to organise this week and unfortunately DD is not well so has been up all night every night and we're all a bit exhausted! I'm nervous and a bit worried about how I will manage everything (it is a full time position) but also looking forward to using my brain a bit more.

I will be using my commute on the train to read some of the links you suggested to me so hopefully I will be able to participate a bit more and ask you all lots of questions

I hope you are all well, happy Friday to you all.

Assalamu alikum. I am a revert, nearly three years now alhamdulilah. I have caught up on the thread. I had a long period of not praying but alhamdulilah I have kept the past few days. You ladies have inspired me. I need to surround myself with Islam to keep my Iman high I think. I tend to be all or nothing in life so this time Inshaallah I will try not to overdo things, and make the 5 fard salah for the next month or so till it becomes a good habit. Then Inshaallah add dua, more dhikr, fasting etc as it feels right. Do any of you have low points? How do you overcome it? Someone once explained it to me like passing seasons...
I feel like I could talk and talk right now. I don't currently socialise with any sisters. My husband is older so his friends are older and their wives are really a generation apart from me.
Like I said up thread you really have inspired me, you all live your lives and juggle your commitments and your Deen. I have been lazy and making excuses. May Allah SWT reward you all. I've been lurking for a few days, there could be many more out there that are being inspired too

Salaam and hello sisters

Congratulations gosh, how lovely to have a new baby daughter.

Crescent I hope your dc are feeling better, there's so many nasties going round this time of year. That weekend break looks amazing, I'm going to look into it but as we're going abroad this year I doubt we'll be able to.

I've just saved the hands free mama page to my bookmarks to have a read later today!

Congratulations on your new job welshcake, I hope your first day goes well.

Walaikum asalaam betty. I'm glad you've joined us. I was exactly the same as you, I had a period where I didn't pray and like you this thread inspired me. I also go to my local mosque every weekend for lessons just for reverts, it's great and alhamdullilah it's increased my iman. Talk away, we're all here to listen, the more the merrier .

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Salam ladies, well I'm assuming we are all ladies?
Thanks for the lovely welcome. That's a good reminder Crescent about the religion being fast so to take it slowly, I remember as a new Muslim reading that the Quran was 23 years (?) to be revealed, and we should take it slowly.
Lost, for a year before and a year after I reverted I spent hours and hours online, reading and learning about Islam. Attending Jummah at the mosque and I went to a couple if sisters circles. I think when I started trying to conceive I started to read up about conception and health etc and my focus shifted... But alhamdulilah I'm back now and Inshaallah this will be it. Lots to learn on this thread and hopefully I'll be able to give something back...
I read the hands free mama blog on bullying. Really struck a chord with me, I worry I do this with my DSC and might do it with my DD when she is older. So I've bought the book! Haha! I think this thread is going to be life changing
Now, I have a very serious question to ask.... Do any of you thread your eyebrows? I stopped plucking as I read the removal of eyebrow hairs was prohibited. But I see Muslim ladies with perfect eyebrows everywhere! Is threading permitted? I don't usually bother, it's liberating have a good reason not to pluck them but I have a wedding coming up so would like to look my best.
I downloaded a new Adhan alarm app from Islamic Finder for my phone today. Has lots of changeable settings etc, and the stunning Mecca Adhan. my favourite one so far.

I forgot to say about the wolves story (on phone so can't scroll back) it's a great way of looking at our strengths and weaknesses. I imagine that's written by a religious person? Another good analogy I read was about exercising our character traits such as discipline, resistance etc as we exercise our other muscles, the more you do it (resist cake/pray fajr) the stronger those muscles get so the easier it is.

Assalamualaikum,

When my iman is low I force myself to continue with the fard and I also listen to lectures more and just make duas.

The eyebrows thing as far as I am aware personally is that one is not meant to shape ones eyebrows by plucking in any form, you can pluck the middle bit if your eyebrows join in the middle but apart from that you're not supposed to. I'm sure if you dug deep enough you'd find a fatwa telling you to shape them tho.
I just brush my eyebrows with a brow brush and forget them. I'm no help sorry!

It was world Hijab day on Saturday, anyone have friends participate?

Salam sisters. Sorry I disappeared for a while. I was having my laptop repaired and I don't really do the internet on phone thing.

Welcome Betty, nice to see someone new. I totally get your low iman feelings. It is so hard, and that's why I come here too, just to get a little lift sometimes.

As far as the eyebrows go, I'm with fuzzy. Although it is tempting to pluck, I really try not to. I have done in the past but I have always followed the opinion that it is something we are not supposed to do.

As always, hope everybody is ok. I feel so much happier now the days are getting longer. A lot more positive. I'm so much more a summer person now whereas I used to love winter, I think because I have spent time in a hot country and became accustomed to it. What about everyone else?

Salaam all,

Been meaning to post but feel exhausted by evening! Nice to have you here betty. I also tend to just pluck/thread between the eyebrows and leave the rest - otherwise i would have a monobrow

I used to be meticulous about waxing my arms, legs etc, but what is it about being married for 5 plus years that i just cant be bothered to wax so regularly any more! My view now is that my DH has seen me cut open for a caesarean - so a bit of body hair shouldnt put him off now should it!

Having said that, i did wax last week after aaaagggggeeeeesss and it actually felt quite nice - I might start doing it regularly again .

ummshi i like the dark mornings and the dark evenings at the moment, but that is because the kids sleep as long as it is dark! I really want a hot hot summer this year as holidays are not going to happen for sometime yet. If its beautifully hot, then i love the long daylight hours too. Although most of those hours do get spent at work rather than enjoying the weather!

Off to bed now....

Speak soon inshallah

Thanks for your replies ladies. I think I will not thread for the wedding and just comb them into shape.

I love the longer daylight hours but much prefer the winter weather for ease of wearing hijab....

Salamalaykum sisters

How are you all? Welcome to all the new posters. Sorry I haven't been posting much either. I suffered a miscarriage recently which has kept me away. Alhamdulillah I am well and recovering. It was at a very early point in the pregnancy so I hadn't had long to get used to the idea of being pregnant but at the same time I was so shocked about how much your body has to go through to miscarry even at such an early point in the pregnancy.

I wanted to ask for some advice on tahara issues from any sisters with experience of this. Did you resume your ritual prayers whilst still bleeding (sorry for tmi) or did you wait until it had stopped. The advice I have read online had been quite conflicted with some people saying you still have to pray regardless, others saying it depends on what stage you were at. Some say its like menstruation other say its equivalent to post natal bleeding. . Anyway Ive kind of been following the one I feel most comfortable with but not sure if this is the right way to go about it.

Anyway jumuah Mubarak all. I will keep you in my duas. Please remember to pray for the muslims suffering around the world. Ya Allah it brings you to tears. I looked at the family break link you posted Crescent and Im hoping to go too. There is something about being in the company of fellow muslims especially those who are striving to improve that gives life to your emaan. I once heard a talk by Muhammed Al Shareef in which he said the sunnah/tradition of God's creation is that if you are not growing you are dying. Really shocked me even till now. But its kind of true. Its difficult to maintain a certain level of faith/knowledge/actions indefinitely you tend to either go up or down. Inshallah I pray we all go up in these things rather then down.

Wa alaikum salam peaceful Sorry for your loss, may Allah bring about good from it.

I have experienced miscarriages myself and I understood that because they were early losses, I was to continue praying. That is what I did anyway but I can't offer anymore help than that.

crescent you have done so well to limit your internet use mashaAllah. I think we are all guilty of missing parts of our childrens' lives sometimes. I don't go on internet on my phone but I do love my laptop.

As for the rest of you with your love of the dark mornings, I don't know what is wrong with you all, haha. I'm joking really and I am dreading trying to get them to bed when it is still light out in the summer. I can just imagine the objections now.

I still have all of last years Ramadhan to make up for, so reminders about the next one arriving are making me crazy. It will be a hard one this year but inshaAllah I am determined to make the most of it, especially after missing last year. Not just the fasting but praying too due to postpartum bleeding for some of it. I was very lacking in spirituality and iman and as such feel like it didn't even occur. Praying for a better time this year.

Innah lillah wa innah Iley hai rajeoon, I'm so sorry peaceful May Allah grant you Sabr.

My sister had several miscarriages and she always waited till she'd finished bleeding before resuming praying. She treated it as nifas.

I'll ask my friend inshallah. I am friends with a female scholar alhumdulilla (& how cool is that)!

'Scuse me for butting in - (commiserations, peaceful, I'm sorry for your recent loss).

I'm delurking to say hello. I'm an atheist who is interested in finding out more about Islam in particular, which I can't really explain. It's like I have an itch I can't scratch. So just to say I'm enjoying reading along and going to all the links you post.

Salam ladies. I wrote a huge post this morning which appears not to have arrived!

Peaceful I am sorry for your loss and May Allah SWT grant you and your husband patience to heal.

Crescent thanks for the links. (Ouch to the armpit plucking!) How do you decide on which school of thought to follow? Were you raised in a particular one? I find this tricky as I would probably say im Sunni but I'm scared to dig any deeper than that... I follow Productive Muslim, this thread and a few Islamic Facebook pages. When I was first considering Islam I watched lots of episodes of The Deen Show. I used to watch the Q&A on Iqra tv until the host said to keep your shoes on whilst you pray?! Has anyone else heard that?
I love that here you have differing opinions and all respect eachothers. Up to now I've mostly followed my instincts and checked my intention before settling on a decision about about whether something is permissible etc.

Curious, hello! Nice to have you here. I'm a former staunch Atheist. Have you always been Atheist?

Salaam my lovelies

Hope everyone is well.

peaceful I am so sorry for your loss. crescent has mentioned sone lovely things which I hope will give you some peace. The reward for your loss and patience is with Allah. May Allah give you the strength and patience to persevere through this difficult time.

As far as i know (but you should get this checked out), if you miscarried before 81 days were up, then you can continue praying. If it was after 80 days, then you dont pray until the bleeding stops or after 40 days. But i am not 100 % certain on this and hopefully fuzzy can get ananswer from the scholar (wow! A female scholar - thats awesome!)

curious welcome to the muslim tea room. I am glad you delurked and popped in for a cuppa . Feel free to ask anything you like, we will all try to answer if we can Inshallah

betty got this from islam q and a:

One of the conditions which must be met before starting to pray is to make sure that one's body and clothes and the place in which the Muslim is going to pray are all clean and free of impurities. It was narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that he used to pray wearing his shoes. Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) was asked, “Did the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) pray wearing shoes?” He said, “Yes.” (al-Bukhaari, 386; Muslim, 555). This is to be understood as meaning, so long as there is no impurity on the shoes; if there is any impurity on them then it is not permissible to pray in them. If a person forgets and prays wearing shoes when there is some impurity on them, then he has to take them off when he finds out or remembers. This is because of the hadeeth of Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri who said: “While the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was leading his companions in prayer, he took off his shoes and placed them to his left. When the people saw that, they took off their shoes too. When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) finished his prayer, he asked, ‘What made you take off your shoes?’ They said, ‘We saw you take off your shoes, so we took ours off too.’ The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘Jibreel (peace be upon him) came to me and told me that there was something dirty on them.’ When any one of you comes to the mosque, let him look and if he sees anything dirty on his shoes, let him wipe them and then pray in them.” (Abu Dawood, 650; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 605).

This has to do with the kind of shoes and with the mosque at that time. However if the mosque is furnished with carpeting, then the mosque should be kept clean of shoes, and no one should enter wearing shoes lest the place be made dirty. (Fataawa Samaahat al-Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Humayd, p. 81). Moreover the furnishings of the mosque are a waqf which should not be damaged or destroyed, and if dirt gets onto the carpets it will offend those who pray and prostrate on them. Hence no one should enter wearing shoes and walk on the carpets in the mosque in shoes, lest he damage them or make them dirty.

The one who is keen to follow this Sunnah can apply it when praying at home, or when praying in places where there are no furnishings or carpets, such as parks, beaches and out of doors, etc. If this action confuses some of those who are unaware of the Sunnah, he should explain to them that it is Sunnah before he does it, so that they will not find that odd. We ask Allaah to make us among those who adhere to the Sunnah and strive to follow it until He joins us with the author of the Sunnah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) close to the Lord of the Worlds. And Allaah is the Source of strength.