Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Philosophy/religion

Join our Philosophy forum to discuss religion and spirituality.

Original poster

spirit in my house frightening my DD...

382 replies

hollowhallows · 21/10/2013 03:41

I have NC for this.

OK, I know some people are going to think I am a crank, but here goes...

I have been aware of a spirit/s in my house since I moved in. In my family we are thought to have 'the sight' and it has been very real to me from the experiences I had growing up and experiences I continue to have. I'm not talking miracles or talking to the other side, just an ability to sense what others cannot, such as aura and spirits etc...

Because I was aware of spirits myself as a child from my own experiences, I was always aware that my children could experience the same thing. I have dealt with having 'the sight' (I don't know what else to call it, I know 'the sight' sounds cheesy) and as I have grown older it has bothered me less and I fear the things I sense a lot less. I hope this is all making sense, I usually keep this to myself Blush

Well now my DD has started to very obviously see something that is frightening her. It is starting to become more frequent and is really upsetting her. It is always in the same place in the lounge and she runs over to me upset, crying and pointing towards whatever it is she can see. She tries to tell me but her speech isn't good enough yet, but her actions and feelings are very clear. Tonight she was so upset by whatever it was that she started crying and covering her eyes so she couldn't see it. I tried to encourage her to show me what it was that was upsetting her in case it wasn't what I thought, but she refuses to even venture to that side of the lounge when this happens. This has been going on for about 6 months but is now becoming more obvious.

I am not religious, I am not overly superstitious, but this is the one thing I genuinely believe in because I have experienced it myself. I have read stories by other MN's about their children telling them they had seen peculiar things so I'm hoping to get some input on how to handle this (and not be mocked in the process). When I sense something myself, I just ignore it. I'm not sure how to handle my DD possibly seeing things that are upsetting her.

OP posts:
myroomisatip · 01/11/2013 09:59

I don't make it my business to either believe or disbelieve what other people may experience.

So, the day got the keys to the house I am now living in, myself and two others had a good look around and when the time came to leave we got to the front door and I realised I had not locked the back door. I went back through the house and could not get into the kitchen. So I went through the conservatory, through the back door to find that the huge fridge/freezer had moved across the kitchen door by over 1" making it impossible to open the door. It took some moving back, it was fairly heavy.

This has never happened since. So what explanation is there for that?

I am not saying it was a ghost, maybe there is a scientific explantion? However, conditions were such it happened once, why not since?

technodad · 01/11/2013 10:15

This is typical!

You get to the point where you have run out of valid points against me, and just start bleating about how I arrogant I am. Even if I was being arrogant, it doesn't mean I am not correct, and it doesn't mean you have come up with a single good counter argument beyond "people can believe any crap they like - you are such a meanie".

gamerchick · 01/11/2013 10:18

Just making its presence felt myroom Grin

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 10:23

Er I haven't run out of any arguments - my first post on the thread was about an hour ago. I just find it annoying when I come on a thread to read about experiences & find it derailed insisting the OP's beliefs are wrong. So what if they are? She was clearly asking for advice from people who do believe - she said that clearly. Why not just let those that believe chat. Then you can read out of interest and not post (as was my plan) or just don't read if you can't cope with people being 'wrong'. Just please don't ruin an interesting thread

DioneTheDiabolist · 01/11/2013 10:46

Individuals aren't necessarily dangerous on a case by case basis (although, often they are) if the belief is something like ghosts...

Techno do you have any evidence for this or is it simply another of your beliefs?

gamerchick · 01/11/2013 10:50

I wouldn't have thought saying something is stupid and made up a good argument to counter tbh.

curlew · 01/11/2013 11:06

"Why not just let those that believe chat."

In this case, because the OP was asking for advice about her dd.

If she had posted on a health thread saying that her child was in pain and saying that the pain was definitely caused by one thing, do people who have different suggestions have to hold back? "Well, her belief is that her child's migraine is definitely because of eyestrain, so it would be disrespectful to her beliefs to say that my child's migraine is triggered by cheese and chocolate"

gamerchick · 01/11/2013 11:15

Oh has the thread been moved then? I mustn't have took any notice when it was first posted.

DioneTheDiabolist · 01/11/2013 11:16

I doubt anyone would come.on and tell that OP that her DD wasn't having headaches at all though.

gamerchick · 01/11/2013 11:16

No that was me again.. carry on.

curlew · 01/11/2013 11:48

No. And nobody is denying the OP's child's distress. The only debate is to the cause.

DioneTheDiabolist · 01/11/2013 11:56

But this thread was never meant to be a debate. It only became one due to the derailing by people who cannot tolerate that others believe differently to them.

curlew · 01/11/2013 12:12

I agree. It became a debate because the people who believe in ghosts were not prepared to accept the views of those that don't. Technodad and others, including me, suggested explanations and solutions that did not involve the supernatural. And were roundly told off for doing so.

I notice you aren't addressing my point about a child's headaches.

DioneTheDiabolist · 01/11/2013 13:17

It was started by a poster who believed in ghosts. It was hijacked by people who don't.

I notice you aren't addressing my point about your confirmation bias.

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 13:21

The OP wasn't asking to discuss the cause - as far as she's concerned she knows the cause. She was asking for suggestions on how to deal with that from people who believed the same. No need for the 'loada rubbish' crew to pile in.

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 13:40

Having said that curlew I thought your paint/face suggestion was a good one. It's the need to insist that the OP is wrong that is tiresome on a thread like this. Just let people chat fgs (not aimed at anyone in particular).

headinhands · 01/11/2013 13:46

I wonder what a HV/GP/copper would say if you asked them how to handle a ghost frightening your child? And that's a serious question. Surely it's a police matter if something is causing you to feel scared in your own home, it's harassment isn't it? What would they suggest?

lottieandmia · 01/11/2013 14:10

' I just find it annoying when I come on a thread to read about experiences & find it derailed insisting the OP's beliefs are wrong. So what if they are?'

Exactly. This is how I felt when I posted the thread that I did in the summer. I was looking for advice on this specific board for that reason. Why do some people feel they have to force others to see everything the way they do? What do you care what I or anyone else believes in?

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 14:18

Oh stop being ridiculous headinhands. I consulted my HV when I realised my child had a disability, not each time they were a bit scared.

headinhands · 01/11/2013 14:30

But the op says she knows what's scaring her, and that it's something that's trespassing/squatting or whatever, I assume they haven't given it permission? If someone was coming into my house uninvited and scaring my kids I'd be getting cops involved.

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 14:52

Ok whatever headinhands.

Just a pity people felt the need to derail a thread despite a clear plea from the OP to not do so.

headinhands · 01/11/2013 15:16

It's perfectly valid to suggest alternative explanations as someone else upthread pointed out. If you only want to hear from people that agree with your interpretation then you're not asking for help, you're writing a story. If I posted that my daughter had eczema caused by a fabric conditioner but after reading the sequence of events you thought it might actually be a food intolerance would I be reasonable to be offended that you'd made an alternative suggestion?

If you like the idea of ghosts by all means have a bit fun, go on a ghost hunt, spend your evenings watching Colin Sly or whatever, but don't involve your kids in your fantasy role play.

curlew · 01/11/2013 15:47

Dione- sorry, I missed your point about confirmation bias. Well, yes, that's possible of course. But seeing the non supernatural reasons for things does not involve belief or faith or anything except eyes and ears and logical thinking. And they are always repeatable so other people can also see the same thing. So probably unlikely.

My point about migraine?

lottieandmia · 01/11/2013 16:08

'If you only want to hear from people that agree with your interpretation then you're not asking for help, you're writing a story.'

No, if you post on the religion and spirituality board then generally you want to hear from people who believe in religion and spirituality - they key is kind of in the title, don't you think? Hmm I don't post on boards that concern things that don't interest me or are not relevant to my life so why do some of you trawl this board solely for the purposes of belittling other people's beliefs? If you are an atheist why are you remotely even interested in this board? If I wanted to hear from skeptics I would post in chat.

When the OP requests for the thread not to be derailed and you still carry on doing it, then it's bad form imo and not what the site should be about.

headinhands · 01/11/2013 16:12

It's the philosophy board too, as in 'the study of the nature of reality'.