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spirit in my house frightening my DD...

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hollowhallows · 21/10/2013 03:41

I have NC for this.

OK, I know some people are going to think I am a crank, but here goes...

I have been aware of a spirit/s in my house since I moved in. In my family we are thought to have 'the sight' and it has been very real to me from the experiences I had growing up and experiences I continue to have. I'm not talking miracles or talking to the other side, just an ability to sense what others cannot, such as aura and spirits etc...

Because I was aware of spirits myself as a child from my own experiences, I was always aware that my children could experience the same thing. I have dealt with having 'the sight' (I don't know what else to call it, I know 'the sight' sounds cheesy) and as I have grown older it has bothered me less and I fear the things I sense a lot less. I hope this is all making sense, I usually keep this to myself Blush

Well now my DD has started to very obviously see something that is frightening her. It is starting to become more frequent and is really upsetting her. It is always in the same place in the lounge and she runs over to me upset, crying and pointing towards whatever it is she can see. She tries to tell me but her speech isn't good enough yet, but her actions and feelings are very clear. Tonight she was so upset by whatever it was that she started crying and covering her eyes so she couldn't see it. I tried to encourage her to show me what it was that was upsetting her in case it wasn't what I thought, but she refuses to even venture to that side of the lounge when this happens. This has been going on for about 6 months but is now becoming more obvious.

I am not religious, I am not overly superstitious, but this is the one thing I genuinely believe in because I have experienced it myself. I have read stories by other MN's about their children telling them they had seen peculiar things so I'm hoping to get some input on how to handle this (and not be mocked in the process). When I sense something myself, I just ignore it. I'm not sure how to handle my DD possibly seeing things that are upsetting her.

OP posts:
gamerchick · 01/11/2013 07:28

They don't exist in your opinion.. thassall.

I don't understand why you keep coming back to the thread.. people believe and people don't believe.

THAT is the end of story.

Although after reading your tangent I'm more than convinced you've had a spooky episode you can't explain.

technodad · 01/11/2013 07:35

Once again, making a guess without any evidence. No, I have never had an experience that can't be explained.

Even the behaviour of individuals and their tendency to make up beliefs can be explained by science.

SpecialAgentFreyPie · 01/11/2013 07:37

Although after reading your tangent I'm more than convinced you've had a spooky episode you can't explain.

I'mwith you Gamerchick.

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 07:59

I'm an atheist but I'd far rather my children were brought up around people with religion than the militant atheism that seems to have taken over. It's almost enough to send me to church. It was much better when the only people reading Dawkins were evolutionary biologists.

I think the OP went out of her way to explain she was not telling her dd that she could see ghosts. She said she could feel it & was aware of it - not that she was sharing that information with her dd.

I'd ask it to move on OP, and tell your dd 'it's gone now'. If that doesn't work then a poem or burning a candle (didn't Samhain involve burning candles) followed by a 'it's gone' might help. Agree with others about her seeing you be in charge.

curlew · 01/11/2013 08:01

Since when has a person who doesn't believe in ghosts been an atheist?

technodad · 01/11/2013 08:02

My "tangent" was a response to a question asking why I disliked the idea of people believing in ghosts.

I have no idea why you are all insisting I have had an event I can't explain. I suspect you are just trying to wind me up as a distraction from the fact that you don't have a particularly sensible or credible response to my points - again.

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 08:07

The atheism response was to points raised further back in the thread.

I do find all the insistence that there is only one explanation & everyone else is wrong & derailing of threads like this (the OP made it clear she was asking for advice not discission of her beliefs) completely tiresome. And I've never seen a ghost in my life.

gamerchick · 01/11/2013 08:13

Or a distraction from the fact you've totally hijacked this thread with your rantings... A thread that was started by somebody who asked for help and who probably won't come back.

Actually I do honestly suspect that.... but you're entitled to your opinion... you don't believe and that's fine :)

headinhands · 01/11/2013 08:19

Chuckling at Techno supposedly having had an experience he can't explain, he's also angry with god dontcha know.

gamerchick · 01/11/2013 08:21

I'm angry at god as well... I've hidden my halo so I get in past those pearly gates and I'm going to lay him out when I see him.

CoteDAzur · 01/11/2013 08:29

"I have met athiest homophobes, misogynists, vaccine refusers and global warming deniers. We all have beliefs."

Except that those are not "beliefs" in the sense of "There has never been any proof for xyz ever but I believe it anyway".

Homophobia & misogyny are hateful prejudices, while vaccine refusers & global warming deniers have some evidence that backs up their cases (while ignoring loads of other evidence that doesn't). Many vaccine refusers are doing the right thing for their DC based on solid factual family history, btw.

curlew · 01/11/2013 08:32

And atheism is not a belief. An atheist is just someone who does not believe in any sort of higher power. No more. No less. An atheist can be a misogynist, a homophobe....anything any other person can be. Except a believer in a higher power.

DioneTheDiabolist · 01/11/2013 09:07

We all have beliefs. Beliefs about self, others and the world. They do not necessarily have to have a religious or paranormal bent. Indeed most do not.

The OP has a "world" belief. That ghosts exist.

Techno has an "others" belief. That people who are not athiests are harmful to society.

One of these beliefs is bad news for humanity, and its not the ghost one.

Just feel the need to point out that Techno is not the only person to express such beliefs and I do not mean to single him out. He is an example.

myroomisatip · 01/11/2013 09:16

What strikes me is that if someone wants to find an explanation for something, it is easily done! You can explain away anything, does not mean that the explanation is correct, just that you choose to believe it. That can work for both sides of the argument btw.

Just because you cannot prove that something definitely exists, does not mean that it doesn't.

It is a shame that some people have such closed minds.

headinhands · 01/11/2013 09:22

Atheists can believe in in ghosts and can be harmful to society. The only type of person who wouldn't believe in ghosts would be a person who doesn't believe in ghosts in the same way an atheist is only someone who doesn't accept the argument for there being a god.

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 09:23

Well the atheism point (which was raised in response to comments earlier in the thread) seems to be derailing the thread.

I suppose my point is I prefer my children to be around those with a variety of beliefs - including those different from my own - rather than exposed to a militant 'my way is the only correct way to think'. I find that stance infuriating - even when my actual beliefs are the same as the person who is being so arrogant insistent.

I don't particularly believe in ghosts, never seen one, love a good ghost story though. But I really hate someone who has never met the people concerned insisting they are right, know exactly what is going on and therefore will pooh pooh other opinions.

The OP here made it clear she wanted help from people sharing her beliefs - not a discussion. I settled down to read an interesting conversation between people who have had different experiences & different explanations from me. Instead it was hijacked by the smug brigade and now my teeth itch.

headinhands · 01/11/2013 09:28

Just because you cannot prove that something definitely exists, does not mean that it doesn't.

Using that system of reasoning you can't intellectually reject any claims anyone ever makes about anything. Are there really no claims you reject? Is there nothing I could say that you would be happy to reject as patently nonsense?

headinhands · 01/11/2013 09:35

Do we actually have to meet people before we can decide if their claims are true? Have you met people who believe in Zeus/mermaids/mothmen/vampires before rejecting their claims? What about the pictures you see on the internet? Do you choose not to make a decision on the veracity of the image because you can't meet the person who posted it? I'd hope not.

gamerchick · 01/11/2013 09:36

I don't know.. not off the top of my head. I'll have a think.

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 09:38

Headinmyhands - you can think what you like, but I'm not sure there's any need to share just to show how clever you are on a thread such as this where the OP has been get specific about why she's posting. And it does come across as arrogant - even to those who don't particularly believe in ghosts.

gamerchick · 01/11/2013 09:38

I do know that if I don't share somebody's belief I don't rubbish them, call what they are saying as stupid or ridiculous just because I don't agree.

saintlyjimjams · 01/11/2013 09:41

Well exactly gamer.

And a shame - from the length of this thread I thought it was going to be one where lots of people shared their experiences. Always an interesting read - even to someone who doesn't particularly believe in ghosts and thinks most things do have an innocent explanation. Instead it was hijacked unnecessarily.

gamerchick · 01/11/2013 09:48

It had potential at the beginning I must admit. I love reading about other peoples experiences.

comewinewithmoi · 01/11/2013 09:51

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headinhands · 01/11/2013 09:55

You can't be using the dictionary's definition of arrogance because my position of non-belief could only be construed as arrogant if I were refusing to alter my position in the face of verifiable proof of ghosts. But there is none. If I told you I was posting to you from the surface of Jupiter would it be arrogant of you to not believe me?