Sick of these XL bully owners

[FreshCop]

I’m just so tired not of these dogs, but the people that are attracted to them and how they behave.

My local area of Liverpool has loads of these dogs and most recently a lady got mauled to death by 5 of them that were kept in a house together. Literally round the corner.

Why aren't measures taken to prevent the unsavoury breeding and sale of these dogs, which clearly have no regard for the welfare of the animals or the safety of people? It is obvious that the average person is completely unable to guarantee that their dog won't harm members of the public.

Examples:

Neighbour who keeps two XL bullies in their apartment and has a one-year-old child. However, it's okay because they are only permitted in the kitchen. Dogs undoubtedly enjoy it, I’m sure. Don’t know what the father is thinking leaving his girlfriend and baby at home alone with two of those dogs, they’re absolutely huge.

A tiny woman who lives across the street has now made the decision to purchase one. He "stays by her side" as she very proudly walks him without a lead. The dog has jumped on me; he's still only a puppy but is already very strong. She appears to enjoy the attention the dog attracts and is proud of herself for walking the dog outside without a leash. My child was knocked over by the dog after it jumped on her. Once more, the woman believes it's all in good fun. There is no way the dog, who is only a few months old, will be able to be handled by her.

Another family on our street has two dogs, but neither of them can walk or breathe normally without stumbling. Both of the "hard" guys—father and son, I think—are exerting real effort and are literally being dragged by these dogs.

It is ridiculous. Moreover, I dread them.

They appear to believe that by frightening off onlookers, these dogs will offer them protection. The number of fatalities these dogs have produced and the fact that the same moron keeps purchasing them. I don't understand the hype because they aren't inexpensive either.

The owners love to have them off lead and then claim that "they are harmless," so i'm not being ridiculous.

Please tell me it’s not just be sick to death of this?

Yet another owner killed by the XL Bully
Her mother warned her, but owner wouldn’t listen.

If people want these brutes and get killed themselves, that’s their choice, but what about when their dog kills another person ( or someone’s pet dog?)

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11291089/amp/Mother-woman-mauled-death-XL-Bully-says-warned-bad-happen.html

These dogs have really fucked up mouths as well.

To be honest BSL doesn't work - I've seen plenty of standard Bullies for sale or pictured online that look as though they could easily be typed as Pit Bulls anyway, but here they are existing. There's a lot of variance on Bullies as well, so if it was added to the old BSL (of which there are just as many petitions and campaigns to abolish entirely) it would be Bully "type" like Pit Bull "type", which would mean that plenty of non-Bullies, including American Bulldog or Boxer crosses, could fall into.

There's always been an issue with "status dogs", these are just the latest after Dobermans and German Shepherds. But unlike previous status dogs, social media has blown them up and there's definitely a lot of other illegal issues underneath - no normal person has £10k laying around to buy a puppy, but people wanting to do some money laundering, or to spend their drug cash, certainly do. I mean, exhibit A:
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7m-heroin-dealer-cashes-demon-12624697

They are just the tip of an iceberg of how dog breeding isn't properly regulated in this country, how dog breeding for status dogs is used to mask drug dealing and just the mess the dog breeding is in. End of ramble...

Wow those pictures are awful. That poor girl. Now living with the consequences of this dog for life. I'm so glad my dd has just split up with her bf. He bought a xl bully puppy into their home along with his sharpei. I was terrified for my 7 year old dgs. It was iffy how he acquired the dog anyway and wanted to breed from her. He is a typical bully owner and a bully himself. I'm so so glad he's now out of their lives. These dogs should be banned. The one he had he admitted had part Pitt bull! That's a banned breed. I hope the authorities start looking into these dogs soon.

@FreshFreshCop just seen those pics taken from an Instagram account with that huge dog on that child's back!!!! Such a dominating image. Terrifying!

A kid riding the dog like a horse! poor animal.

I agree with others the deformed dogs looked dead behind the eyes. The structure of the skull and setting of the eyes gives these dogs a thick deformed look. The breeders are breeding for size and muscle and the dogs are now having joint issues, issues with incontinence and their hips and front legs are bowing. Its monstrous. They are also breeding for exotic colours leaving many dogs with blindness and deaf.

I am concerned because the general public and the numpties breeding these dogs seem as ignorant as each other. The "XL bully" and the other standard and pocket bully were bred from Pit bull, American bull dog, English bull dog, Olde English Bulldogge. American's often refer to any bull breed dog as "pitties" and can't distinguish between an AmStaff and a pit bull, we seem likewise not to be able to distinguish between a Staff and an American Bully. And the breeders are also complicit in this by breeding American Bully with other dog breeds, or with dogs called Bully because there is no breed standard. Add to this the thickos breeding their non pure bred Bully with a massive Cane corso, other types of mastifs and these dogs are the recipe for disaster in terms of health and temperament.

The original mix that went into developing the breed was said to create a muscular dog less agile, less athletic and with better temperament. But again because these breeders are not regulated and there is no breed standard and the look appeals to dumb fucks Darren who can make a few quid, we now have bigger more deformed, unhealthy lumbering dogs living in poor conditions with no training and others being trained as guard dogs. Bull breeds have never been guard dogs. But because these twats are now diluting further adding in dogs with other attributes and temperaments suited to guarding and attack of humans we see these horrendous attacks on humans.

What worries me is that
A) BSL isn't working for the reasons stated, and also because other dogs not covered in these regulations do indeed attack and cause fatalities.
B) As with Pit bulls we can not distinguish between a bully and some other breeds now.
C) Because the dumb twats drawn to status dogs will again turn their attention to other recognised breeds and start crossing them to create new equally powerful breeds/poor temperaments.

D) if these numbnuts just want scary protection dogs they should get a GSD, its better suited than a bull dog!
E) Even recognised breeds are problematic now and one would have to be extremely careful and research the breeders, and really have to think about adopting a Staff, or Amstaff, American Bull dog etc,....how do you know what dog it is now?
F) There are calls already to ban all bull breeds......Pug, Boston, Boxer? Really?

I am angry with these twats, they risk all bull breed dogs being banned. I am afraid of dogs bred for herding, and dogs bred for protection (be that people or live stock) their behaviours freak me out. I don't like having a dog trying to round me up thank you! but I have always had bull breeds and have no fear of them. They were trained for bull bating and dog fighting. Aggression towards humans was bred out with selective breeding. Stubborn, willful, clownish, pulling like a tractor, not always easy to train, and quiet, often not liking and ignoring other dogs, always people focused. I am mad that these twats are breeding staffs, Corso and mastif into these ridiculously deformed dogs.

So I have signed the petition, but I do wonder where this will all end, because as stated BSL isn't working.

If a documentary were made about the people who own these dogs, they would resemble the cast of "Benefit Street," only more ruthless and willing to commit crimes in order to afford the animals.

Not sure if them knowing how they’re perceived will be a deterrent because I suppose in their own community being considered “hard” and having designer clothes and a modified car are signs of success. Bagging a drug dealing boyfriend would be like landing a CEO.

One mother in my son's school is always at the school gates in the mornings telling us about her baby daddy in jail, answering prison phone calls, and explaining how her fella breeds these dogs from his jail cell to make money "on the outside." Her social media pages are mostly filled with pictures of her wearing fake designer clothing, but she does seem like a nice mother 😂

I saw another one of these today. Same old story - young man, grey tracksuit on, chain lead, smoking weed, barely holding onto the dogs lead.

Warning - more pictures of serious wounds from dog attack -

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/real-lives/mum-bitten-25-times-american-23998542

Good points.
The woman who looks like she has been bitten by a shark ( Bitten by her XL Bully, quelle suprise, must have reported it as the ‘Breeder’, thick as shit, has been breeding siblings together.
The dead eyed look surely must come from some “Dim gene” caused by idiotic breeding .

German Shepherds and Malinois especially are used by Army and Police, but these are selected for biddable , trainable natures, and release when requested.
The only dogs I felt afraid of were a pack of GSD’s, lean and hungry that used to guard a gypsy scrap “Dump” in Kent.

We walked by one evening, and the dogs were loose on the road.
Instinctively I wanted to run, but knew I had to keep very calm and walk slowly through them.

They were silent.
They followed, but must have sensed my fear.
They looked like they could have done with a very good feed, poor things.

They likely weren’t very good guards!

I'm not a fan of them either

Ikr? They look like predator.

The only time ( Years ago! ) I had to use a vet charity - And was very grateful for the wonderful service, 🙏 Thank you)
I was shocked at the number of very poorly behaved dogs of “Aggressive “ type in the waiting room.

Private Practice has quiet waiting rooms where dogs quietly wait under chairs , there isn’t the “ Chaos” I witnessed from weak owners having zero control.
Breeding and illegal ear cropping is plain awful.
It’s a shame a charity has to step in to maybe help deliver puppies that will be sold for thousands.

They should use Private practice for that, not charities.

If ear cropping is illegal, how are these people getting away with selling these dogs?

I have an XL Bully next door but one. She seems really sweet, at first look, but she is beyond 2 x 6’ fences. She is fine if I am in my garden, not if my dogs are in my garden. If she is in her garden, my dogs are indoors. They only get garden time when the bully is indoors. She menaces them and hurls herself at the fences if she hears mine out in my garden. Private garden, not shared.
Owner never has her on a lead, even though he says that she is ‘antisocial’. I have stayed in my car, until she goes back indoors when she is out the front. She chased me from my car to door. Owner thought it funny. I didn’t. I am a confident dog owner, I have been brought up with all sorts of dogs, my dad had a preference for GSDs, so big dogs hold no worries usually.
Next door have had a few people complain to his landlord. Not many XLs our way but there are ‘a few tough types’ with them. Not as many as in bigger cities thankfully.

I am sure that there are nice, well mannered and well trained examples of the breed.

Yes the introduction of the mastiff and Corso to them isn't helping.

Vet thinks our Mastiff mutt is possibly English mastiff/bull mastiff/Corso crossed with a Labrador/boxer type dog 🤣 he's a mutt honestly. But a lovely one, the local vet asks to borrow him for training days, as he requires no sedation to be scanned and prodded, we discovered this when he needed a heart scan as he has been diagnosed with a murmur. And the vet said he's an absolutely beautiful dog, he was such a good boy for the scans, do you mind if we borrow him in a few weeks as we need to do some training on heart scanning and yours doesn't require sedation. I agreed. They just fuss him and feed him treats and scratch his belly so he's happy, and I get his heart murmur monitored for free basically 🤣 win win.

A friend has a pure breed Corso, and it's honestly a wonderful dog. It's calm, friendly, likes children and other dogs. Very docile large lump but he has trained his dog so well, he exhibits the dog, in dog shows like "crufts" but abroad. It really is a beautiful dog. He has no interest in breeding from her, but he gets loads of messages from "chavs" online asking if he would breed his bitch with their monster dogs, and he declined each time, but he did say he's been offered thousands for it 😳

She is neither ‘sensible’ nor ‘decent’ 🙄

That’s the thing though, she is. I don’t get it, they look like they should own a Labrador or a spaniel or maybe a labradoodle at a push. We live in the heart of gun dog county. I’ve no idea how she’s got herself into that world!

They should be made illegal and anybody that owns one be banned from reproducing.

That’s the thing though, she is. I don’t get it, they look like they should own a Labrador or a spaniel or maybe a labradoodle at a push. We live in the heart of gun dog county. I’ve no idea how she’s got herself into that world!

@Idratherbepaddleboarding Perhaps she's living her fantasy life through the dogs online. Writing in "ghetto" slang, communicating with other bully enthusiasts, and establishing a reputation within the group. Is she also involved in meet-ups or has special photoshoots for her dog? I feel it makes them feel important being part of it all.

Breeding the popular dogs seems to be highly celebrated in these circles.

I agree. They’re big, strong and powerful dogs, that need a firm hand to keep under control. Unfortunately they have become a fashion breed of the moment and a status symbol for those with neither the time, energy nor money to give them the training and care they need and deserve.

Omg just saw this on YouTube. Just about sums it up.

An investigation by BBC Wales found that breeders are offering dogs with cropped ears, together with fraudulent pet passports to imply the procedure was done abroad.

Commenting on the BBC report, Daniella Dos Santos, former president of the British Veterinary Association (BVA), said that rogue breeders are “looking at these animals as commodities and money-making machines rather than living sentient beings”.

She added: “The reason this is happening is because there is a loophole that allows the importation of dogs with cropped ears, and that’s just acting as a smokescreen clearly for it happening in the UK.”