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Sick of these XL bully owners

316 replies

FreshCop · 10/10/2022 21:38

I’m just so tired not of these dogs, but the people that are attracted to them and how they behave.

My local area of Liverpool has loads of these dogs and most recently a lady got mauled to death by 5 of them that were kept in a house together. Literally round the corner.

Why aren't measures taken to prevent the unsavoury breeding and sale of these dogs, which clearly have no regard for the welfare of the animals or the safety of people? It is obvious that the average person is completely unable to guarantee that their dog won't harm members of the public.

Examples:

Neighbour who keeps two XL bullies in their apartment and has a one-year-old child. However, it's okay because they are only permitted in the kitchen. Dogs undoubtedly enjoy it, I’m sure. Don’t know what the father is thinking leaving his girlfriend and baby at home alone with two of those dogs, they’re absolutely huge.

A tiny woman who lives across the street has now made the decision to purchase one. He "stays by her side" as she very proudly walks him without a lead. The dog has jumped on me; he's still only a puppy but is already very strong. She appears to enjoy the attention the dog attracts and is proud of herself for walking the dog outside without a leash. My child was knocked over by the dog after it jumped on her. Once more, the woman believes it's all in good fun. There is no way the dog, who is only a few months old, will be able to be handled by her.

Another family on our street has two dogs, but neither of them can walk or breathe normally without stumbling. Both of the "hard" guys—father and son, I think—are exerting real effort and are literally being dragged by these dogs.

It is ridiculous. Moreover, I dread them.

They appear to believe that by frightening off onlookers, these dogs will offer them protection. The number of fatalities these dogs have produced and the fact that the same moron keeps purchasing them. I don't understand the hype because they aren't inexpensive either.

The owners love to have them off lead and then claim that "they are harmless," so i'm not being ridiculous.

Please tell me it’s not just be sick to death of this?

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Lbnc2021 · 10/10/2022 22:18

There was some idiot on here a few months ago who had 3 of them and thinks they are great with children.

caramac04 · 10/10/2022 22:21

@Idratherbepaddleboarding a bag of sand is a grand ie £1,000.
fwiw, imo, this whole bully breeding business will lead to more deaths because most of the owners can’t, or can’t be bothered to, provide the boundaries the dogs need.
Also I am very wary of crossing breeds, mixing certain traits can be a recipe for disaster.

NorthFaceofthelaundrypile · 10/10/2022 22:22

I share an office with a woman whose husband has just had to have surgery on his shoulder after one went for him when he was doing a home visit site survey.
it absolutely would have killed a child.
Awful dogs that should not be in homes or out on the street.

Yack02 · 10/10/2022 22:23

Most of the dick heads that have these dogs do so (imo) because they're trying to show off how big and important they are and that they can handle this type of breed.

It also ties in to not walking them on a lead - ooooh look look everyone, I'm so accomplished.

It pretty much boils down to their own insecurities and desire to be admired for their exceptional dog handling skills

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FreshCop · 10/10/2022 22:28

I'm utterly exhausted by these people. These people intentionally walk their dogs off-leash because they want to start a conversation; you never see anyone else doing this.

Imagine a dog like that not being stimulated and being cooped up all day; the fact that they seem to think keeping several of them in a small confined space is a good idea just proves how thick they are. An impending catastrophe.

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Dunnoburt · 10/10/2022 22:32

YANBU...... however I expand your XL Bs to any dog that's not trained or treated with the respect it deserves as a "domesticated" animal.......

Dunnoburt · 10/10/2022 22:33

Apologies..... by that I mean they all have a mind of their own!

RosannaRosanna · 10/10/2022 22:37

What even is an XL bully? They're a new breed right, but what breeds did they originate from? Are they just very large staffies?

There's tons in my area, and I've never seen a male that was neutered. I've also noted that lots of people with unneutered males also seem to have females too, so I imagine they're breeding them at home. Makes me shudder.

I adore dogs, and I've met many staffies etc that I like but I just don't think we should be breeding them any further. The likelihood of them being in the wrong hands is so high. I also see this new thing of crossing French bulldogs with staffs recently too, I'm not sure if that's new - but the couple that I've met were very very strong and by the owners admission, not walkable and not to be trusted around children or small dogs (very sweet to their owners though)

SO1926 · 10/10/2022 22:43

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IAmAReader · 10/10/2022 22:54

YANBU. This is why this culture of dogs everywhere has to stop.

There’s a nice shopping centre called Silverburn which is located in a fairly rough area of Glasgow. They’ve announced a trial dog-friendly policy where dogs are allowed in the centre and can visit a number of shops including Krispy Kreme,H&M, Waterstones and many others.

As someone pointed out in the social media comments, due to the area Silverburn is in, there’s a High chance of some ‘tough guys’ ,coming in with their quite fierce dogs.

Aside from the issue of dog mess, and people being allergic or dog-phobic it’s generally a really bad and potentially risky idea irrespective of where the shopping centre is.

nannyquestion1 · 10/10/2022 22:58

mothermotherm · 10/10/2022 22:15

YANBU
I’m an estate agent and I valued a house the other week which had three of these dogs inside. All three were growling and shoving me with their heads. The owner (a small woman) kept shouting at them to stop and even said to one of them ‘stop it you’re sounding aggressive’.

One in particular kept jumping at my back and growling and then ran to the top of the stairs guarding the landing so I couldn’t get up. I asked her to put them outside or I will have to leave because they were clearly unhappy with my presence. She the preceded to tell me that this happened a few days ago with another agent in the house and said she doesn’t know what’s gotten in to them.

I found it utterly bewildering that she thought it would be ok to have me in the house knowing that they act like this to strangers in the home. Her dogs left scratches down my legs and arm from the constant jumping. I ended up leaving after fifteen minutes because she had absolutely no control over those dogs whatsoever and I felt genuinely frightened.

Good God! I'm shocked. You must have been petrified!

whattodo22222 · 10/10/2022 22:58

YANBU. I was bitten by an English Bull Terrier aged 7 and had 20 stitches in my face. If it had been one of these dogs I wouldn't be alive. They terrify me.

Janedoe82 · 10/10/2022 23:02

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whenwillthemadnessend · 10/10/2022 23:03

I'd hate to be a social
Worker or carer and have to go into these homes

Something needs to be done about this breed for sure.

I saw one puppy in a pet shop recently. He was the same size and weight as my 2 year old lab at 16 weeks.

YellowHpok · 10/10/2022 23:06

We're from Liverpool but moved out recently. Not even that far. I don't think I've encountered an XL bully since, except on the beach at NB. I love being able to let the kids out to play without the fear that they're going to be eaten by a dog/run over by a scrambler/knifed.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 10/10/2022 23:09

caramac04 · 10/10/2022 22:21

@Idratherbepaddleboarding a bag of sand is a grand ie £1,000.
fwiw, imo, this whole bully breeding business will lead to more deaths because most of the owners can’t, or can’t be bothered to, provide the boundaries the dogs need.
Also I am very wary of crossing breeds, mixing certain traits can be a recipe for disaster.

Ah that makes sense @caramac04 thanks.

bogoffeternal · 10/10/2022 23:12

XL bullies should be added to the banned breeds list. In fact, any breed even remotely aggressive should be added over time. Let the ones alive gradually die out, but ban the breeding of any more.

shreddednips · 10/10/2022 23:14

I absolutely love dogs of all sizes and have never felt afraid of them until I started seeing these particular dogs out and about. There's something about them that just brings out a visceral fear in me, I think it's the size and the power and knowing that if they went for me or my child, there would be little I could do about it. I know any dog could attack but the potential consequences of an attack by such a powerful dog are so much worse.

Someone near us has just got one, tiny woman and this huge dog is dragging her all over the place. She walks it around the children's play area (no fence), we leave the second we see her as I'm just so afraid of her dog 😬

CoralBells · 10/10/2022 23:18

There was a news story today where it looks like someone killed their XL dog, possibly because it ripped up a dog bed and helped itself to dog biscuits
www.itv.com/news/granada/2022-10-10/dog-found-with-injuries-similar-to-being-hit-by-a-car

badwulf · 10/10/2022 23:18

RosannaRosanna · 10/10/2022 22:37

What even is an XL bully? They're a new breed right, but what breeds did they originate from? Are they just very large staffies?

There's tons in my area, and I've never seen a male that was neutered. I've also noted that lots of people with unneutered males also seem to have females too, so I imagine they're breeding them at home. Makes me shudder.

I adore dogs, and I've met many staffies etc that I like but I just don't think we should be breeding them any further. The likelihood of them being in the wrong hands is so high. I also see this new thing of crossing French bulldogs with staffs recently too, I'm not sure if that's new - but the couple that I've met were very very strong and by the owners admission, not walkable and not to be trusted around children or small dogs (very sweet to their owners though)

They're American Pitbull Terriers crossed with American Bulldogs and Staffies. Utterly terrifying combination and despite their foundation stock, they're exempted from the breed legislation because they're a "new breed" and specifically named in the act.

bogoffeternal · 10/10/2022 23:18

@shreddednips don't blame you. I'm heavy and my 22kg labradoodle can have a good go at dragging me along if he tries. These bullies though are absolute beasts and there are few people who could stop them if they decided to go for someone.

MovinOnUp · 10/10/2022 23:25

A relative of mine got one as a pup over a year ago.
They were most offended when I wouldn't let my DC visit their home last Christmas.
Apparently I'm just a snob.

I wouldn't have a dog in my home that I couldn't be certain I could overpower should it go for anyone in my home.
I'm fairly certain even Dwayne Johnson couldn't save himself from one of these dogs.

PurplRainDancer · 10/10/2022 23:27

SecretVictoria · 10/10/2022 21:43

YANBU. There is a lady who brings one to my work, he is lovely and she has him very well trained and can handle him. Most people have no clue how to train and handle these dogs.

’can handle him’

Until the dog goes into ‘attack mode’ 🙄

Amybelle88 · 10/10/2022 23:27

FreshCop · 10/10/2022 22:00

According to what they say, the owner is to blame, not the breed.

Dogs have a genetic predisposition to exhibit particular behaviours. A border collie is excellent for herding, a jack russell can catch vermin for you, and you can be sure of getting a great watch dog when you get a chihuahua.

Each breed has characteristics like these. The XL bully has shown time and time again that it can’t be trusted and is unsafe to own for someone without extensive knowledge of how to handle these breeds.

I totally agree with you on this.

It's biology for the vast part. I'm sure there are many owners out there who, if they train the dogs correctly and cover their needs, then they will have good dogs.

But you have to adapt your handling to suit the biology of the dog that you have, and the vast majority of people don't do this.

I do know a couple of owners who are good dog owners and have similar breeds to this, and I'll be honest, I know the dogs and they're fabulous, but equally, I know dickheads who haven't got a clue and let them run wild.

My pooch was attacked by one a couple of years ago - it was sheer fate that the dog only managed to bite her collar and not her actual skin, but the owner was an empty head who didn't even recall when the big horrible fucking thing was like a psycho going at my beagle. His mates in the end had to act on his behalf cos he didn't give one fuck.

Orders76 · 10/10/2022 23:29

I have a small harmless but noisy happy dog.
I have seen a couple of these monsters on choke chains when I go visit a friend.
Can I just ask do choke chains work(other than being horrible cruel) and would they help an owners strength save me or my pup if they went for us?