Sick of these XL bully owners

[FreshCop]

I’m just so tired not of these dogs, but the people that are attracted to them and how they behave.

My local area of Liverpool has loads of these dogs and most recently a lady got mauled to death by 5 of them that were kept in a house together. Literally round the corner.

Why aren't measures taken to prevent the unsavoury breeding and sale of these dogs, which clearly have no regard for the welfare of the animals or the safety of people? It is obvious that the average person is completely unable to guarantee that their dog won't harm members of the public.

Examples:

Neighbour who keeps two XL bullies in their apartment and has a one-year-old child. However, it's okay because they are only permitted in the kitchen. Dogs undoubtedly enjoy it, I’m sure. Don’t know what the father is thinking leaving his girlfriend and baby at home alone with two of those dogs, they’re absolutely huge.

A tiny woman who lives across the street has now made the decision to purchase one. He "stays by her side" as she very proudly walks him without a lead. The dog has jumped on me; he's still only a puppy but is already very strong. She appears to enjoy the attention the dog attracts and is proud of herself for walking the dog outside without a leash. My child was knocked over by the dog after it jumped on her. Once more, the woman believes it's all in good fun. There is no way the dog, who is only a few months old, will be able to be handled by her.

Another family on our street has two dogs, but neither of them can walk or breathe normally without stumbling. Both of the "hard" guys—father and son, I think—are exerting real effort and are literally being dragged by these dogs.

It is ridiculous. Moreover, I dread them.

They appear to believe that by frightening off onlookers, these dogs will offer them protection. The number of fatalities these dogs have produced and the fact that the same moron keeps purchasing them. I don't understand the hype because they aren't inexpensive either.

The owners love to have them off lead and then claim that "they are harmless," so i'm not being ridiculous.

Please tell me it’s not just be sick to death of this?

I’ve read this thread thinking about how to share my story and whether it’s give anyone pause for thought but it turns out I’m just a lowlife cretin (amongst other stuff) so I’ll leave it.

’The XL bully that killed Jack Lees was passed around- Sold on Farcebook.
Impulse purchase.
that child killer has been used for breeding- So it’s genes are out there.
Horrible, unstable dogs.’

I don’t know what they’re like personality wise. To a degree, dogs are what they’re bred for. Collies were bred to herd so they can be heel nippers. Terriers were bred to keep down vermin so they often have a high prey drive. These dogs appear to be very strong and have high bite strength. You’d have to ask those that bred them what they were trying to achieve.

The bigger, stronger and more ‘proactive’ the dog is, the more control you need to have over it. Not physical control, training and obedience. You can lift a Yorkshire Terrier out of a situation and though it may bite it’s not going to be physically capable of killing you. I would never have a Great Dane, not because they have a bad reputation but because I would end up dragged all over the place. I’m not committed enough to the training required so that I could keep them under control in public. No picnics would be safe in a 2 mile radius.

These dogs look like they need a strong handler, not just physically but someone who will put in the hours of training, correct the dog every time and possibly keep the emotional distance required to manage the dog. I don’t think that you can have them up on the sofa with you and still be able to call them off another dog when they’re wound up. They seem like dogs that need a job.

And I’m sure that lots of these dogs are up on the sofa with people and their DC but some of the dogs that attacked people will also have been up on the sofa with their owners.

Im also in Liverpool op and agree i hate them and im a huge dog lover. They weigh twice my weight in some cases and me and my child would stand no chance against them.

Not only do they need banning but i think we need to bring back dog licenses. People need to pass a test to demonstrate they can care for a dog properly before owning one.

There is 1 of these that lives down my road. It was always walked off lead by a tiny woman until it ran down a driveway and attacked another dog who was just being taken out for a walk, on a lead. Other dog was apparently only saved by the harness it was wearing. Other dog owner got the impression it wasn’t the first time it had a happened.

Stupid owner now walks it on a lead, but she’s on a scooter and gets the dog to pull her. I’ve seen her nearly fall off a few times. She clearly doesn’t have enough brain cells to work out she’s actively teaching the dog to pull and making it even stronger.

She has young kids in the house too, one of whom is disabled. Dog wears a gold chain around its neck and I’ve heard her laughing with other neighbours about people picking their small dogs up to walk past her.

I had reason to visit a male in a work capacity who owned one of these xxl bully types. I love dogs but my god, it jumped on me. It was taller than me and although it seemed friendly, I couldn't get it off. The owner had to bribe it with food to get it off me. I can see how easily it would be for dogs like that to kill.
I dont live near any dogs like that and I'd worry walking my kids and my parents sprocker near any. In fact I'd want a cattle prod with me.

YANBU I still don’t understand what’s wrong with a Labrador or Dalmatian why do people feel the need for these dangerous breeds.

A video on police dog training YT shows how even genetically good parents don’t always make good Police dogs.
Timidity and nervousness is present in some.
These aren’t selected for training.
A biddable, confident dog “ With a good front tooth grip” who isn’t noise averse is what was sought .
Looked like Malinois x GSD types.
Brains not mindless bulk.

Why aren’t the numbers on the petition higher? I’ve signed. Will share on Facebook too.

for once I hope that the press share this thread.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618243

There's a petition to ban on the U.K. parliament petition site, closes in December but not many signatures so far.

What is very apparent is their complete absence from many areas but very common in others, inverse to average income. Never seen one near me in my town but I had to go to Morrisons which is in an "interesting" suburb of my nearest city and I saw 3 just in the car park, then another couple driving back.

It's also the only supermarket I've seen with gin on the checkout stand!

That area has severe deprivation, high unemployment, high rates of crime etc

Wonderful post

Signed

Exactly the type of ignorant owner that these attract.
How many more deaths of children and vulnerable adults will it take for these empty eyed brutes to be outlawed?

Absolutely this.

These dogs are a status symbol amongst certain classes. That’s not good for the dogs, or the people.

I have signed the petition.

And I’m absolutely sick to the back teeth of people saying it’s not the breed blah blah. If I faced a choice between being bitten by an aggressive Yorkshire terrier or an aggressive xl bully I know which one I’d choose - if ever a choice was to be made. And anyone that says otherwise is just in denial. A bite from a smaller, less powerful dog is less likely to kill or seriously injure you. That’s the difference.

As Previous Posters have said, It’s a perfect storm of Ignorant owners, Dodgy DNA, and fecklessness that leads to deaths.
This is the “ XL Bully” ( Called “ Beast”) that killed a 10 yr old boy in
Wales .
The fools drawn to these dogs must feel the need to say “ Fuck you” to society-
Until it is their child or granny torn apart.

Nope, I wish haha - not from Newton mearns! I used to live in pollok and went there regularly as it was in walking distance plus at one point I worked in a shop there. But don’t tell me where I should and shouldn’t shop. Personally I won’t go there now because A. I have moved and B. I wouldn’t be keen on the doggie friendly policy but my opinion on an area doesn’t mean I can’t shop there.

Not sure why you’re talking about class prejudice - I happened to live on a street in pollok with nice friendly neighbours, but the fact is it’s a rough area and it does attract a higher amount of those sort of dogs than certain other areas so get off your high horse.

What is very apparent is their complete absence from many areas but very common in others, inverse to average income. Never seen one near me in my town but I had to go to Morrisons which is in an "interesting" suburb of my nearest city and I saw 3 just in the car park, then another couple driving back.

It's also the only supermarket I've seen with gin on the checkout stand!

That area has severe deprivation, high unemployment, high rates of crime etc

This is definitely the case; it appears that the families who own these dogs are those who are unemployed, rough, or engaged in shady activities.

You can just imagine what kind of loser would say, "I know what I'll do today, I'll take my 3 XL bullies to the local shopping centre," when you look at that photo of "Beast" up above.

The fact that the majority of these dog owners can afford one of these dogs but lack a job or a full set of teeth says a lot.

Whilst the rest of us have to walk on our tips toes so they don’t suddenly launch themselves at us.

My boyfriend had one years ago, he rescued her from somebody who was going to “get rid of her” because she was the runt of the litter.

my boyfriend was endlessly gentle and kind and adored his dog who was was generally scared of rain, wind, washing machines…..and was a lovely pet

BUT still we couldn’t trust her in many situations. She hated pregnant women for example and used to growl at them. Hated horses, postmen……

we only ever walked her with a muzzle

It caused endless headaches
I was relieved when she died tbh.

I have signed the petition too, and am
incredibly thankful I haven’t yet encountered one in my area but it sounds as though it’s a matter of time. Having a dog is a privilege, not a right, and as a dog owner I am all for licensing and compulsory insurance. The attacks I have read about, involving this breed, are horrific.

It is interesting that all of us who have encountered these monstrous dogs, they have been with the same sorts of people. But then they do say that dogs often look like their owners!
Its unbelievable that these dogs haven’t been banned without the need for a petition. How many more people need to die for the government to step in?

I work for a veterinary charity and these dogs are extremely popular with a certain demographic. They are purchased as a status symbol and often live in chaotic homes where they receive very little or no training. They are then bred indiscriminately to make as much money for their owners as possible, often having their ears illegally cropped to make them look 'fierce'.

Their genetic make up includes a high proportion to pitbull terrier. They are a recipe for disaster paired with the type of owner that they normally attract.

It is interesting that all of us who have encountered these monstrous dogs, they have been with the same sorts of people. But then they do say that dogs often look like their owners!

These dogs probably give their owners a sense of power and admiration that they otherwise wouldn't receive because they are at the bottom of the social food chain. Otherwise, I suppose they are invisible.

They have now developed their own distinct "subculture" in which they meet up, offer online tips to others on how to build up their dogs' muscles, and generally give them a sense of being finally respected for their abilities within the XL bully scene.

Are these dogs pit bull and staffy crosses?