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Sick of these XL bully owners

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FreshCop · 10/10/2022 21:38

I’m just so tired not of these dogs, but the people that are attracted to them and how they behave.

My local area of Liverpool has loads of these dogs and most recently a lady got mauled to death by 5 of them that were kept in a house together. Literally round the corner.

Why aren't measures taken to prevent the unsavoury breeding and sale of these dogs, which clearly have no regard for the welfare of the animals or the safety of people? It is obvious that the average person is completely unable to guarantee that their dog won't harm members of the public.

Examples:

Neighbour who keeps two XL bullies in their apartment and has a one-year-old child. However, it's okay because they are only permitted in the kitchen. Dogs undoubtedly enjoy it, I’m sure. Don’t know what the father is thinking leaving his girlfriend and baby at home alone with two of those dogs, they’re absolutely huge.

A tiny woman who lives across the street has now made the decision to purchase one. He "stays by her side" as she very proudly walks him without a lead. The dog has jumped on me; he's still only a puppy but is already very strong. She appears to enjoy the attention the dog attracts and is proud of herself for walking the dog outside without a leash. My child was knocked over by the dog after it jumped on her. Once more, the woman believes it's all in good fun. There is no way the dog, who is only a few months old, will be able to be handled by her.

Another family on our street has two dogs, but neither of them can walk or breathe normally without stumbling. Both of the "hard" guys—father and son, I think—are exerting real effort and are literally being dragged by these dogs.

It is ridiculous. Moreover, I dread them.

They appear to believe that by frightening off onlookers, these dogs will offer them protection. The number of fatalities these dogs have produced and the fact that the same moron keeps purchasing them. I don't understand the hype because they aren't inexpensive either.

The owners love to have them off lead and then claim that "they are harmless," so i'm not being ridiculous.

Please tell me it’s not just be sick to death of this?

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oakleaffy · 11/10/2022 04:16

Cretin magnets.
They need banning.
The deaths will increase as these lumps become more popular with the idiots that are drawn to them.

BorderF · 11/10/2022 04:36

I was at a woodland park and was entering with my dd 4 and a man with an XL was walking out. The dog very suddenly jumped onto my dd and left her with scratches and very shaken up as I was. The owner could barely control him and kept saying "it's fine, it's fine, it's fine". That really pisses me off. No it's not fucking fine.

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MargotChateau · 11/10/2022 04:45

Agree they need to be banned. I come from a dog loving family that has fostered dogs for forever and I have gone on to foster dogs myself, but even as a dog lover this breed has no purpose and needs to be banned in the U.K.

All the people I’ve seen being dragged around by these dogs have been scummy low lifes. Grim. Poor children with idiot parents that allow their children to be around this breed.

berksandbeyond · 11/10/2022 07:26

I would move, if at all possible. No chance I'd bring my child up around these idiots and their vicious animals

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FreshCop · 11/10/2022 07:50

See him sadly being dragged around the neighbourhood now, can't help but enjoy it a little. His second dog is a border collie.

poor collie to put up with that.

I second the above, the joke of some “hard” skinny lads being absolutely dragged down the road by these things. You’d think their arm were to be dislocated if the dog pulled hard enough.

The chavvy photoshoots you see of people proudly posing with these dogs is a joke too.

Utter low lives and the stuff they post on social media to describe their “incredible best bully in the UK” is nauseating.

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FreshCop · 11/10/2022 07:53

All the people I’ve seen being dragged around by these dogs have been scummy low lifes. Grim. Poor children with idiot parents that allow their children to be around this breed.

it is true. My jobless neighbour was proudly sitting on her steps in the afternoon wearing her pyjamas as I came back with my daughter from school, with my 60 year old auntie who looked “disappointed” at the sight of it all.

Dog came bouncing over of course to jump on us. She does it because she has nothing else to do in life and this way people actually speak to her.

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Afterfire · 11/10/2022 08:06

We live in south Norfolk and I have not seen any of these dogs locally. It’s all spaniels and terriers here! Thank goodness. I really don’t understand why people want to keep these huge, uncontrollable dogs. They’re genuinely terrifying. I guess that’s why people want them. Which is horrible in itself. They should be banned.

caramac04 · 11/10/2022 09:00

I’ve had staffies for years, currently have one old rescue and a shepherd pup. They need firm boundaries but different breeds require different handling. I would not have any breed where I thought I wouldn’t be able to meet their needs.
I don’t think I could train and control an XXXL even if I wanted to, they shouldn’t have been bred imo, we have plenty of good breeds who can live with families.
I’m not sure for what purpose they were crossbred.
People should think about what they can offer a dog not what the dog offers them. I can see many bullies ending up in rescue and can’t be rehomed. They will end up pts. Probably the kindest thing but horrible all the same.

MassiveSalad22 · 11/10/2022 09:09

I know I sound like a snob but I am soooo glad I have never seen one of these around our way. I would be honestly worried to come across one of those in the park with my kids. They are literally called a Bully. Glorifying the whole ethos of it. And I bet if you dared tell anyone with a bully that it’s just a status symbol and to look hard, they wouldn't take kindly to it and - surprise - get aggressive themselves! They’re soooo ugly too. Who can be arsed to have one of these around?? Ugh.

interstatelovesong · 11/10/2022 09:12

I passed a thuggish looking chavvy bloke with one at our local shopping centre

As I went by I said loudly to my little girl awww look at the cute doggy awww he's so sweet

As that is the actual last thing these dick heads want for people to think their dog is cute 🤣🤣🤣🤣

SecretVictoria · 11/10/2022 09:21

FreshCop · 10/10/2022 21:50

YANBU. There is a lady who brings one to my work, he is lovely and she has him very well trained and can handle him.

I just don't like the sense of pride these people who own these dangerous dogs have. For them, it resembles the biggest status symbol. They even have photo shoots for Instagram because they enjoy flaunting them.

I can guarantee she isn’t like that. She is in her late 60s-early 70s (Know this as she has a bus pass) and the dog is extremely well behaved and trained. She is definitely an outlier, I think he was actually a rescue.

Most owners are as you describe and I would definitely change direction if I saw one being walked by a gobshite who was unable to handle/control it.

oakleaffy · 11/10/2022 09:35

The men who have real 'Strength' tend to have small, nice dogs.
It's always the idiots and chavs that want these monsters.

Piggy little eyes on them, meat~heads, child killers, old person killers.

They just aren't bright or nice dogs.

They tend to be in ''Poor'' parts of Cities.

I saw one recently with a lanky weedy ~looking teenaged boy, he had it on what looked like a motorbike chain lock lead, but it was laughable had it not been so tragic.

The reason these piggy hippo looking dogs aren't on leads is that the imbecile owners can't train them not to pull.

Years ago an aggressive dog was off lead hassling passersby's pet dogs on a pavement.

I said ''Why isn't that dog on a lead?
The owner replied :

''She don't need no lead'' in a sulky, sullen voice.

These definitely need outlawing.

MadisonAvenue · 11/10/2022 09:48

There’s a man started walking one recently on the common where I walk my dog, I hope everyday that I don’t see him.
He’s a small weedy bloke and he really struggles to hold the lead when the dog starts pulling, if he lost his grip I hate to think what would happen.
It scares the hell out of me.

Kentgirl2525 · 11/10/2022 09:51

CraigDavid · 10/10/2022 22:05

There is a petition to add the xl bully to the banned list - Google it and you will find it.

Good idea will sign now and hope everyone else does the same! 👍

Mylittlesandwich · 11/10/2022 09:51

I met 2 Cane Corso's for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Fortunately these dogs were under control but they were freaking enormous and look like they could cause real damage had they not been. They'd had their ears cropped and were on chunky chain collars and leads I think to make them look "mean".

XL bullies have popped up round here recently and they unnerve me. DS loves dogs and would of course never approach a dog without asking me and the owner first but when he's seen one at a distance he's scared. He's only 3. There's 2 round here walked off lead and the owner doesn't seem to have recall with them so it feels like an accident waiting to happen.

Kentgirl2525 · 11/10/2022 10:07

Please everyone on here sign the petition. It really needs our vote.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618243

247SylviaPlath · 11/10/2022 10:27

@FreshCop This is the petition…only has a small number of signatures but if we all supported it it might get somewhere…

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/618243

(Sorry if this has already been posted)

247SylviaPlath · 11/10/2022 10:28

That’ll teach me to read to the end 😳

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FreshCop · 11/10/2022 10:31

I know I sound like a snob but I am soooo glad I have never seen one of these around our way. I would be honestly worried to come across one of those in the park with my kids.

you’re not being a snob at all. I’d love to trade places with you at this point. I’m so tired of these people.

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Hhgt · 11/10/2022 10:36

I take my child to a music lesson in another estate and I used the half hour to walk our dog but the number of people with hard man dogs off the lead there makes me so nervous there. They don’t really have good enough control of them but insist they have them off the lead to make themselves look tough. I think having a law that all dogs on pavements should be on the lead would also help. I can’t see why this is difficult for some owners

SophieIsHereToday · 11/10/2022 10:39

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 10/10/2022 22:06

Someone I know is sensible and decent but has a “pocket” one of these. It’s tiny to the shoulders but when you add on its head it’s as big as my lab! She breeds from him so she’s advertising all over Facebook and the way she types, you’d think he was from the ghetto 😂. I looked at one of the pages she’s advertising on out of curiosity/ boredom and it’s just full of people offering up their dogs for breeding for ‘a bag of sand’ whatever the hell that is, people trying to “rehome” (sell) 6-12 month old puppies, “tough” looking pictures of dogs with their ears cropped and the most appalling spelling and grammar (they always spell it bully’s instead of bullies).

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I think a bag of sand is a grand in rhyming slang

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FreshCop · 11/10/2022 10:51

The reason these piggy hippo looking dogs aren't on leads is that the imbecile owners can't train them not to pull.

I failed to consider that. They most likely do not want the public to witness them being dragged around.

If you really wanted a protection dog, you would purchase a German Shepard or another breed of the same calibre that has a reputation for being a great guard dog and is intelligent.

A bully has a huge head and jaws that are absolutely enormous. It is absurd that one of these idiots with toddlers believes they should live in their typically tiny homes.

Liverpool has many "deprived" areas and a benefit culture, which is why I believe these are wonderful dogs to these people. I have no idea where the money is coming from because they are reportedly 5–10 thousand dog breeds.

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RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 11/10/2022 10:57

I had a look of Facebook as I don’t know much about these dogs. This video was very stressful to watch - huge dog being grabbed and pulled by a child, whose mother is laughing and cooing over it. m.facebook.com/groups/322980482270214/permalink/622756318959294/

GingerFoxInAT0phat · 11/10/2022 10:57

Eeksteek · 10/10/2022 23:51

I have always had dogs and am very confident with them. In general, I prefer big dogs, as they have better temperaments. And I would give one of these dogs a very wide berth.

It’s not that they were bred to attack bulls, or that they are big, or that they have had body language and bite inhibition bred out of them, or even that they are owned by people who think any of that is a good thing or don’t know any better. It’s because they were bred to attack bulls AND that they are big AND that they have had body language and bite inhibition bred out of them AND that they are owned by people who think any of that is a good thing or don’t know any better. Dogs are wonderful animals and have a lot of safeguards built in - they don’t want any sort of confrontation, they have to be highly selectively bred to fight. A chihuahua is frequently a ball of snappy nerves, but you can pull it off a child with one hand. It won’t hold on for grim death despite a broken jaw. A lab might turn nasty, but has inbred bite inhibition (bred to have soft mouths) a shepherd might hate people, but bloody hell, you know about it long before it bites. Not a Bully. It’s a perfect recipe for a fatality. That’s what it was bred for.

And even then, most of them don’t hurt people. Not even with naive owners that don’t understand them, don’t train them and can’t control them (because no person can. They’re huge with bloody great teeth. If they want to hurt you, they will, unless you have chain mail and a gun, frankly. The only reason there aren’t hundreds of fatalities is because they are mostly lovely dogs. The one that killed that poor lady up north recently was 14 stone. With their low centre of gravity and four legs versus two, you’d have to be a bodybuilder to hold one back). But anyone who understood dogs would understand these dogs are not suitable pets and are the highest possible dog-risk to people. And why would you get one of you understood that? It’s a case of anyone who wants one automatically shouldn’t have one! It only takes a perfectly lovely dog with a UTI or a sore hip that you touch accidentally and they can turn. And most dogs live very stressed lives, because people don’t keep them well, and then it can be anything. Just startling one, or the last person they saw in a red coat kicked them. Some people even less so than others. It’s just a perfect storm.

Genes load the gun. The environment pulls the trigger. It’s not breed or owner, but BOTH. I don’t know what kind of environment or owner they live with when I meet one, just what the dog is. I think the bloodline of anything with ‘bull’ in it should be actively eradicated (by which I mean compulsory neutering, not destroying healthy innocent dogs). There’s no reason to have them. It’s not kind, they have health problems bred in, they were created, not evolved, there is no purpose in having them (and if people fighting dogs is a valid purpose to breed them, then that’s all kinds of awful) and they are being used as weapons on purpose and people are getting caught in the friendly fire. In general, civilised societies control production and ownership of weapons for the safety of all of its members, even if a few don’t like it.

Great post 👏🏼