No more tax rises petition?

[Mountainbetweenus]

Has anyone else seen this petition?

www.whatlaboursaid.com/no-more-tax-rises?dm_i=7XP6,2XATP,62F9PD,7DA6V,1,0,0,0

‘so I am happy to rely on state support for my healthcare and children's education etc, I'd just prefer everyone paid more tax to improve them.’

OK, now imagine that you willingly accept higher taxation and yet front line services dont improve - maybe they deteriorate because, xx p/£ is not hitting front line services, but is paying for public sector pensions.

Still happy to pay more tax?

You don’t hear a peep because there aren’t any. It’s the one thing the Victorians could teach us a thing or two about.

Yes instead of a letter do a transfer.

Again, Blossom - you don’t move in those circles, am I right?

I do - trust me or don’t.

These were examples. That's what 'etc' means.

Public sector pensions form part of front line services though. If you want good staff in services, you have to pay for them. You haven't outlined your experience in employing people and so on though you are claiming to have some - don't you know that you have to reward staff if you want good ones?

Admittedly the govt is not always going to tax and spend in exactly the proportions or areas I would like, but as I am neither an economist nor an MP I have to vote for the party nearist what I think and campaign for anything else I feel strongly about. That's the system we have and I prefer it to individuals making decisions about exactly where their money goes via charity, which would end up in children and dogs being very well provided for but everyone else not so much.

@Poppingbywhich tax bracket do you want to increase taxes on? Do you mean yours as you say you’re keen to pay more.

You know as little about me as I do about you. You only appeared here this week. Maybe stop being so personal? You’re very intrusive.

All I can say is that if the country is swarming with philanthropists handing out swathes of money they’re not getting much bang for their buck because there’s not much evidence of it.

Are you trying to find out my salary @EasternStandard ? How rude. Yes I mean mine, I said that. Along with other tax brackets above mine and apart from the lowest which cannot afford more in the current climate.

I'm not going to pretend to have a comprehensive top-down view of the country's finances unlike some others on here but yes my point all along was I would be happy to pay more tax if necessary, which it is. You can't have schools AND guns without paying more, and the world has changed recently on the guns front hasn't it.

Not really. Your tax aside I’m wondering which tax brackets you want to hit further.

I don’t think middle earners will want higher taxes and of course everyone asks that those who earn more are hit.

Labour said the first budget was the only time they’d increase taxes. Lying probably has got them so far but the public might not want what you do.

And the wonderful thing about ever increasing taxation - which some posters conveniently forget is - it doesn’t act in isolation. It comes on top of COL inflation, frozen salaries, declining asset values (read housing), job insecurity.

But, no matter - carry on hiking taxes - it’s a silver bullet to all of the UK’s economic ills.

The Tories decimated public services over many years. They need to be restored. Much better to pay more taxes than have the NHS, care services, education, roads etc in the terrible state they are in now.
Why are people so against paying a little for everyone to benefit? Is it because they have kids in private schools and use private sector medical services etc?
Americans are like this - they can’t see the truth about low taxes but going bankrupt because they have a baby/asthma attack etc as they have no public services. In the USA people die from diabetes as they can’t afford insulin; it’s absolute madness.
We need decent public services and that comes at a cost.

Was this intended to sound as creepy and sinister as fuck? Because it does. And you still haven't explained your vast expertise on the British economy either.

Every child in state school costs the tax payer around £8,500/year, ergo PS children are a net saving for the state. But Labour promised that the PS VAT would pay for 6,500 new state school teachers - how is that going?

Private health insurance - is taxed as a BIK, meaning we pay tax on that benefit - many of us at 40%.

I could go on.

If you think that ever-increasing taxation will result in a sure-fire improvement to public services, I fear that you will be disappointed.

The tax me more line still persists. Or usually others when pressed.

Even after “fully funded, fully costed” or only the first budget and that’s it, after jobs cut and inactivity increased posters say oh yeh higher taxes.

Nope - simply a statement of fact.

Other posters on the PP’s long-running thread consistently refer to other posters history - check it out for yourself.

Otherwise, what do you want to know - my career history?

Edit: It’s unwise to post personal details, I say.

I think there are some that should be increased, and others reduced. Large tech companies should pay more, pensioners on much higher than average incomes, for example.

It is unwise indeed, so why all your questions.asking about personal details?

Unwise to post, not to ask.

I see, different rules for different posters.

We need to tax assets, not income. Property prices have rocketed over the past 30 years while wages have stagnated.

If you plan on levying further taxes on property, prepare for the market to remain gummed up, so prepare for lower stamp duty income, prepare for house builders and EAs to be further hit, prepare for lower CGT and IHT revenue, and prepare for the government to continue to miss house building targets.

Oh, and you might want to short some of the main lenders - because they will eventually be forced to make writedowns on their mortgage books.

Best of luck.

How do you know about other posters and the threads they post on? You’ve only been here five minutes.

I’m not planning to do anything, I’m not the PM! 🤣

Sorry but this is all speculative nonsense. More likely it will untimely bring property prices down and get the market moving. People who don’t want to pay the increased taxes will be encouraged to downsize.

I used Anthropic.