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For Trans Allies: Petition to oppose draft Equality Act guidance on sex and gender

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HopefulPetitioner · 21/06/2026 09:17

Petition: Disapprove the draft Equality Act 2010 guidance laid on 21 May 2026

“I want the House of Commons to disapprove the Equality Act 2010: Draft Code of Practice for services, public functions and associations, 2026 laid on 21 May 2026”.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/770527

Petition: Disapprove the draft Equality Act 2010 guidance laid on 21 May 2026

I want the House of Commons to disapprove the Equality Act 2010: Draft Code of Practice for services, public functions and associations, 2026 laid on 21 May 2026.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/770527

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SirChenjins · 22/06/2026 12:39

So much wrong with that petition I don't know where to start.

I'm going to pass on a petition which seeks to trample on the sex based rights of women. Rather than 'trans allies' think 'men's rights'.

Littlecrake · 22/06/2026 12:39

The petition is pointless. Your beef is not with the guidance, which correctly interprets the law, but with the law itself. You need a petition to remove the protected characteristic of “sex” from the original law. You may also need to look at laws such as the workplace regulations 1992 to remove the clauses within that protect people on the basis of sex. You need a proper debate in Parliament to ascertain whether there is political will to remove the requirement to not discriminate in the basis of sex. Personally I think it’s a hard ask and nobody is going to want to justify it in the doorstep come the next election but that’s what you need to do. Removing the guidance doesn’t change the law, it just means institutions may have to deal with legal consequences of not following the law because they have relied on incorrect guidance, such as that given by Stonewall.

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 13:04

Loving all the people on here telling me what I think.

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Chersfrozenface · 22/06/2026 13:11

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 13:04

Loving all the people on here telling me what I think.

Make your position clear then, OP.

Answer the questions put to you.

"I am concerned that your aims as stated in the petition fail to take into account the equality rights as imbued by sex.
How do you propose to square that circle?"

"Even if you get the guidance changed, the law will still say services can be segregated by sex and men cant use or access facilities provided for women.
So what is the petition actually hoping to achieve?"

"Do YOU think men should be allowed free access to women's spaces? If so, why?"

MyThreeWords · 22/06/2026 13:16

A more effective form of transallyship would be to reassure any apprehensive transpeople that they are in fact being manipulated into groundless fear by a form of activism that isn't genuinely in their interests. The guidance simply clarifies the existing legal situation, and leaves us exactly where were at the point when the equality act was passed, before 'stonewall law' muddied the waters.

There are no additional sanctions for trans-identified people who access opposite-sex facilities, there will be no additional monitoring at toilet doors. In all probability, the minority of trans-identified people who slip through into the wrong toilet will still be able to do so. And in all probability there will be pockets of blind-eye-turning to this behaviour, as there have always been.

The key difference is that facility providers will no longer feel permitted or coerced to mis-state the rules of access. That will make it much easier for the 'social contract' of unenforced near-total compliance to reassert itself. Abusive trans-identified males will feel less emboldened to exploit single-sex places for voyeurism, exhibitionism, harassment, etc.

Paradoxically, that will make it easier, not harder, for the odd 'passing', non-abusive trans person to do as some of them have always done and slip in to the wrong facility - because women will be able to stand down from the enhanced perception of threat that illegal trans-inclusive policies had generated.. I'm not making any statement about whether that is a good or a bad thing. I'm just observing that it will continue as it always has, so these people won't be worse off.

And as for the concern in the petition that some women might suffer additional problems accessing women's spaces based on their appearance, whY should that be the case -- given that (even during the height of "stonewall law") we have always had single-sex spaces and in most parts of the country most users would have understood single-sex to mean single sex? Why, also, would this be the case given that the guidelines don't materially change the level of enforcement or monitoring levels required?

If there has indeed recently been a greater willingness to challenge women-who-do-not-look-like women (which is far from certain), it seems fairly obvious that that is because, until the SC judgement, we were hearing false claims from all corners that men were allowed to come in on their own say-so. Now that lie has been nailed, any women who have recently been challenging people in toilets will be able to reduce their vigilance and we will go back to normal

Littlecrake · 22/06/2026 13:20

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 13:04

Loving all the people on here telling me what I think.

What do you think? Your OP suggests you want to disapprove the guidance. Do you want to do that, but keep the law? Why? The obvious consequence is the burden falls on business and institution to draft their own guidence to the existing law, but why is that better than government guidance? What is the point? What do you think?

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 13:26

I’m posting here to let people who care about this issue know the petition exists.

I don’t intend to justify my support of the petition here, because I’ve followed enough threads to know how any debate is likely to develop.

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WhereAreWeNow · 22/06/2026 13:38

The petition doesn't make sense to me. As others have pointed out, the guidance simply explains the law to the public. It doesn't make the law.

murasaki · 22/06/2026 13:44

Why not ask the men in your life to be nicer to transwomen in the men's loos if you're so invested in being an ally? After all, that would make them safer while also keeping women safe from men in the ladies.

Shedmistress · 22/06/2026 13:48

Wouldn't it be better to start a 'pee next to me' campaign to protect all the men who say they are women who need some assistance in the gents?

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 14:14

Shedmistress · 22/06/2026 13:48

Wouldn't it be better to start a 'pee next to me' campaign to protect all the men who say they are women who need some assistance in the gents?

Let me think…. 🤔

No.

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DialSquare · 22/06/2026 14:15

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 13:26

I’m posting here to let people who care about this issue know the petition exists.

I don’t intend to justify my support of the petition here, because I’ve followed enough threads to know how any debate is likely to develop.

“I’m posting here to see if there are others who want to announce their agreement to the erosion of hard fought women’s rights. Please don’t try to debate me about it though, as like all Allies, I have no coherent argument.”

Shedmistress · 22/06/2026 14:15

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 14:14

Let me think…. 🤔

No.

Why not?

murasaki · 22/06/2026 14:17

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 14:14

Let me think…. 🤔

No.

Wow, your misogyny is showing.

Imdunfer · 22/06/2026 14:26

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 11:44

200 signatures in the last hour.

There are 35 million women in this country.

Oh and by the way a lot of men agree with biological women only spaces too.

KrazyKatty · 22/06/2026 14:31

Why do you think that men are entitled to use women’s safe spaces regardless of the law and therefore making all women less safe in the process?

Seems an odd thing to ask a mainly women user forum to agree to?

Or do you just really HATE women?

Imdunfer · 22/06/2026 14:32

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 13:26

I’m posting here to let people who care about this issue know the petition exists.

I don’t intend to justify my support of the petition here, because I’ve followed enough threads to know how any debate is likely to develop.

No you aren't.

You're posting here to get signatures.

But since you are posting here when you must be fully aware that it's extremely unlikely you'll attract any signatures that you wouldn't have attracted from a pro trans rights forum like Reddit, I think it's safe to assume that your overwhelmingly most likely objective of posting on this forum was to upset women.

If you cared about "people who care about this issue" you wouldn't be posting on a form full of women who would scratch their own eyeballs out before they'd sign your petition, they care that strongly about the issue.

ThisOneLife · 22/06/2026 15:05

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 13:04

Loving all the people on here telling me what I think.

No one is “telling you what to think”.

Most people are simply pointing out to you that Guidance is advice about a particular law. You’re demonstrating a huge lack of understanding of how parliament and laws work.

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 15:18

It’s not my petition. I’m sharing it.

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nocoolnamesleft · 22/06/2026 15:43

Why do you hate women, and want to trample on their rights, safety and dignity?

Shedmistress · 22/06/2026 16:04

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 15:18

It’s not my petition. I’m sharing it.

You can't be much of a 'trans ally' if you won't help the men pee in safety.

BiologicalRobot · 22/06/2026 16:11

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 15:18

It’s not my petition. I’m sharing it.

You are wanting biological men to be in women's only spaces such as prisons and refuges. Why?

3beesinmybonnet · 22/06/2026 16:44

Just signed the petition.

The one aiming to cut queues at the Ladies, not the one wanting to destroy women's rights, obviously.

HopefulPetitioner · 22/06/2026 17:40

The petition is currently the second most active on the Government Petitions website.

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Wishesandhorses · 22/06/2026 17:49

I don't believe the faux 'concern' for some women when the guidance is based on the law clarified to protect women - the women being strip searched by men if those men claimed gender ID, the women assaulted and raped in prisons, the women raped on hospital wards, the women excluded from services if they couldn't use mixed sex spaces (often due to trauma, disability, cultures, faiths) - so many women.

And you're worried about potentially a woman being questioned and embarassed? But not about those women and what actually happened to them, and the law that protects them?

If you're against women's rights and equality - particularly the vulnerable groups of women- have you also realised that

a) the guidance can only say what's in the law, it CANNOT say anything different

b) if you remove sex based rights from the EqA you don't just remove women's rights and equalities, you also remove gay rights

c) even if politicians are insane enough to remove sex based rights from the Eq A it won't solve anything anyway, because women and gay people have article 8 rights too and there's a lot of other legislation that would also have to be fixed to get women and gay people back in their place as second class citizens.

No man with a trans identity is going to be harmed by a woman having a space where she can undress without him present.

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