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Schools reopening

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user1468867871 · 30/06/2020 18:07

AIBU to share with you UsforThem. It is a group of mums who are campaigning to send children back to school as normal with no restrictions. They can be found on FB and Twitter #UsforThem. There is also a link to sign the petition on FB

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formerbabe · 01/07/2020 22:15

When my dc was off school for numerous medical appointments and no other reasons...I was sent a letter lecturing me on the importance of school attendance. Even detailing the catastrophic impact on their future as their attendance slipped below certain percentage points.

Yet, apparently this is fine

darkcaramel · 01/07/2020 22:15

I think 90% of the mental health crisis apparently caused by (depending who you speak to) schools and testing 2026-19 and now not being able to go to school 2020 - is nonsense.

It is led by those with an agenda and I do think that some parents jump on it and believe a sad child is a depressed one and a worried child is a child with anxiety.

darkcaramel · 01/07/2020 22:16

That is really annoying former

Bollss · 01/07/2020 22:20

@darkcaramel

I think 90% of the mental health crisis apparently caused by (depending who you speak to) schools and testing 2026-19 and now not being able to go to school 2020 - is nonsense.

It is led by those with an agenda and I do think that some parents jump on it and believe a sad child is a depressed one and a worried child is a child with anxiety.

I think you're being incredibly flippant.

Mental health problems can stem from literally anything. Some children thrive under pressure and in testing. It seriously stresses other children out.

It will have done some children the world of good being at home, for others it will have been horrific.

My child isn't depressed, or anxious. However I could see a change in him, and it wasn't pleasant. My child is lucky, he has a secure home, caring parents and I was furloughed so I had proper time to spare for him.

I can't be other children though, and that's where he seriously struggled.

It's very easy for sadness to progress into depression or anxiety. It's very easy for anxiety to go undiagnosed. It's no surprise when people refuse to take it seriously.

MarshaBradyo · 01/07/2020 22:21

What a load of ham.

The government is slow to get children back but even they say it is important.

DomDoesWotHeWants · 01/07/2020 22:23

@MarshaBradyo

I would have thought teachers would see missing a term of school as quite a big deal and would be on the side of children being in school.

Of course teachers want children to be in school. But not at the expense of their own health. Or that of their families.

Why do people think that's unreasonable?

Teachers and others working in schools are entitled to the same protection as any other job. As are the children.

Social distancing is an important way to prevent the spread of Covid. If classrooms are too small for this then only half the class should be in at a time.

darkcaramel · 01/07/2020 22:24

I’m not at all gene

What is flippant is taking normal ranges of mood and feelings and attributing them to mental ill-health.

Ordinary people living ordinary lives (most of us) will experience boredom, listlessness, weariness, worry, stress, sadness and sometimes downright misery.

It is life. It isn’t a rose garden all of the time.

MarshaBradyo · 01/07/2020 22:25

Dom as I said I understand teachers want to feel safe but *CallmeAngelina’s post surprised me.

CallmeAngelina · 01/07/2020 22:25

@formerbabe

Nor did we worry unduly about children's mental health or them missing a term of school

Well no because when in history were children isolated at home for months and not allowed to see other children or go to school

I would imagine children living through the 2nd World War had quite a lot to cope with.

ishouldgoandtryabitmoredaily · 01/07/2020 22:25

I'm for going back to normal. But our school have said it's bubbles of 30 in September.

It's not Not giving a shit about staff it's that the risk is low, yes you might catch it, but it's unlikely that you will hospitalised. It's one of those luck of the draw situations. Wash your hands after going to the shops or antibac after going on the tube ( something I've always done anyway) Then crack on.

Surely if it was s that rife all these keyworker kids would have given it to the school staff already.

darkcaramel · 01/07/2020 22:25

of course teachers want children to be in school

We do?

RickOShay · 01/07/2020 22:25

There’s no way I will be signing this petition. I can’t believe people are.

tigger1001 · 01/07/2020 22:25

And despite a widely available vaccine, the average deaths per flu season is around 17,000. This can fluctuate quite dramatically as the vaccine is based on the who's best guess as which strain of flu will be prevalent in the year. Where they don't get it right, deaths go much higher. Think it was 17/18 flu season where deaths were high as a result.

formerbabe · 01/07/2020 22:26

My dc were initially fine..but are now really struggling. My ds is 12 and quite honestly, bored to tears by family time at this point. I've literally done everything you could think of...he just wants to hang out with his mates again. My dd is 9 and often cries about missing school...she enjoyed home learning at first but used to sit her doll at the table to be her classmate she has sn and was just starting to really find some confidence socially and now it feels like we're back to square one.

darkcaramel · 01/07/2020 22:26

He can hang out with his mates now, surely?

Bollss · 01/07/2020 22:27

@darkcaramel

I’m not at all gene

What is flippant is taking normal ranges of mood and feelings and attributing them to mental ill-health.

Ordinary people living ordinary lives (most of us) will experience boredom, listlessness, weariness, worry, stress, sadness and sometimes downright misery.

It is life. It isn’t a rose garden all of the time.

Of course, but I don't think thats what a lot of people are doing to be honest. A few will be I guess.

Of course we do, but all of those things do effect mental health. Even in children.

Nobodies saying everyone should be happy all of the time. But to know that you're impacting the mental health of thousands of children and just pretend it's not happening is not on in my book.

MarshaBradyo · 01/07/2020 22:28

DarkCaramel you’re a teacher too? Same feeling about dc missing a term too

formerbabe · 01/07/2020 22:29

I would imagine children living through the 2nd World War had quite a lot to cope with

You're comparing chalk and cheese. Isolation is really damaging. Why do you think solitary confinement is seen as such a harsh punishment and reserved for such few prisoners?

darkcaramel · 01/07/2020 22:30

I’m not pretending it isn’t happening. I simply don’t believe it. I’m sorry, you won’t like my response there, but I don’t.

Bollss · 01/07/2020 22:30

@darkcaramel

He can hang out with his mates now, surely?

If thats to me, yes he can. I'm very happy that he can, so is he. Other children aren't so lucky though.

darkcaramel · 01/07/2020 22:31

I don’t think it’s ideal educationally marsha but it’s not as if it’s something that has happened before and it isn’t something likely to happen again.

darkcaramel · 01/07/2020 22:32

It was to former, yours is preschool isn’t he?

CallmeAngelina · 01/07/2020 22:32

@MarshaBradyo

Dom as I said I understand teachers want to feel safe but *CallmeAngelina’s post surprised me.

Well, I'm viewing it through the eyes of a teacher who's in a school where excellent home-learning has been set and engaged with pretty comprehensively, so I don't think our pupils will have "missed out" educationally as much as some of those from schools I've read about on here. We have also opened our doors to all year groups for the last month of the term, and even those who have chosen not to return are, by all accounts getting out and about and playing together (presumably appropriately distanced) outside school. Ultimately, that aspect of a child's life has to be managed by their parents. Some children are taking Covid very much to heart, but actually, what we're seeing (and I know this will vary according to area/situation) is that they're doing their utmost to make the best of it. For those who have returned to school so far, it's as if they've never been away. They will (the vast majority of them) recover from this.

formerbabe · 01/07/2020 22:33

He can hang out with his mates now, surely?

Yes but he is in year seven...his new friendships made at secondary are not especially well established. He is at that odd age where he is too old for me to organise but not mature or confident enough to be able to organize. I have been trying to encourage and help with this but he's lost a lot of confidence.

Bollss · 01/07/2020 22:34

@darkcaramel

It was to former, yours is preschool isn’t he?

Ah sorry. Yes he is finally

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