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Petition to Stonewall

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ecosomething · 03/10/2018 20:51

New petition launched calling on Stonewall to:

  • Acknowledge that there are a range of valid viewpoints around sex, gender and transgender politics
  • Acknowledge specifically the conflict that exists between transgenderism and sex-based women’s rights
  • Commit to fostering an atmosphere of respectful debate, rather than demonising as transphobic those who wish to discuss or dissent from Stonewall’s current policies

Link here: www.ipetitions.com/petition/dear-stonewall-please-reconsider-your-approach

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Threewheeler1 · 04/10/2018 18:41

Thanks placemats.

Yvaine1 · 04/10/2018 18:46

Errol I was being playful. But obvs not very clearly. 🙄😂

ErrolTheDragon · 04/10/2018 18:55

I know ... I'd had the same thought myself yvaine hence had the definition ready to paste.Grin

Farinthepast · 04/10/2018 20:03

Signed!

FekkoTheLawyer · 04/10/2018 20:04

3,848 Signatures

FlyMaybe · 04/10/2018 20:10

Just signed.

It appears I am now an activist and a TERF ConfusedConfusedConfused

FekkoTheLawyer · 04/10/2018 20:15

Ooooh. Join the bad girls club.

buckingfrolicks · 04/10/2018 20:33

I signed.

Tbh stonewall have long seemed to me to be vociferously masculine : hard to explain, but far far more interested in and agitating for the gay men community. It does not surprise me that they have taken this stance.

lilllil · 04/10/2018 20:39

Alison Moyet has apparently taken it back and said it was ill advised. Could I ask how she was invited to take part @JonnyBest? What's going on?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/10/2018 20:45

Alison Moyet has apparently taken it back and said it was ill advised

Oh FFS

Petition to Stonewall
3TresTrois · 04/10/2018 20:53

Beyond disappointing

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/10/2018 20:59

So is she ok with transwomen in prison with women/ competing against at sport etc and so on?
If she agrees twaw then any tw can and should be anywhere a woman/ girl is. Because they are female.

It's a ridiculous stance.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 04/10/2018 21:01

And for clarity, tw in this sense means "anyone who says they're a woman" including fetishists, part timers etc as per stone wall umbrella

3TresTrois · 04/10/2018 21:03

Fuck sake.

I feel like even our heroines are scared to piss off the woke bros.

Urgh.

Charliethefeminist · 04/10/2018 21:09

It's a very powerful group. We can't underestimate the power of these women-erasers.

Threewheeler1 · 04/10/2018 21:20

That was a mighty quick turnaround.
Wonder what's been said - actually, not really, think we've heard it all before.
She must have been getting it full blast since her initial tweet re petition.

Charliethefeminist · 04/10/2018 21:23

Maybe she'll do a Neville Southall - he was sympathetic to women in one tweet and then look what happened

Charliethefeminist · 04/10/2018 21:24

Skeletons, closets

Charliethefeminist · 04/10/2018 21:25

She is GC and is with us, without a doubt.

ChrysanthemumsAreMums · 04/10/2018 21:53

Oh Alison. You believe transwoman are women? Do you know what Stonewall thinks transwoman are?

MipMipMip · 04/10/2018 22:24

Has anyone sent Allison a tweet of the Stonewall umbrella?

I'm not signing because it would feel dishonest. I'm not gay and Stonewall has never claimed to represent me. Asking them to reassess the service they provide when it is not a service I will ever use just feels wrong.

I will share the link with the world though.

And if you're not gay and signed I'm not criticising btw, just because it's wrong for me doesn't mean it is for anyone else.

ArcheryAnnie · 04/10/2018 23:29

Ruth Hunt talking about this outright lied on Radio 4 earlier on this evening. She's a disgrace.

Stonewall will carry on regardless - they've got tons of money (because it's male dominated, innit) - but there's no point to them if their main purpose is to stand up for the rights of err, straight men.

SuburbanRhonda · 05/10/2018 07:15

Rhonda I did think about it but sadly it's because of the nature of my work that I need to be careful. That in itself is maddening.

I’m not criticising anyone else who doesn’t sign, for whatever reason, because they are aware of the TRA tactics of doxxing and intimidation.

I’m lucky not to be the main wage earner so if they come after my employer, I dgaf.

FekkoTheLawyer · 05/10/2018 07:45

Nip - this touches us all.

SymphonyofShadows · 05/10/2018 11:35

Rhonda, I know you weren't. I'm not happy that I don't feel I can put my name to it. Sorry if I came across as touchy.