Petition to Stonewall

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New petition launched calling on Stonewall to:

• Acknowledge that there are a range of valid viewpoints around sex, gender and transgender politics

• Acknowledge specifically the conflict that exists between transgenderism and sex-based women’s rights

• Commit to fostering an atmosphere of respectful debate, rather than demonising as transphobic those who wish to discuss or dissent from Stonewall’s current policies

Link here: www.ipetitions.com/petition/dear-stonewall-please-reconsider-your-approach

AND - she IS NOW FOLLOWING ME.

Woah - Frances Barber is fantastic.

Definitely legit.

Not surprised that the numbers are climbing so quickly.

Even if this petition doesn't have any impact on Stonewall itself I think it can still play a important role in helping shift the tone of the debate, in demonstrating that LGBT are not one homogeneous bloc with a 'party line' and in showing that there are many LGB voices that are not being properly heard or properly represented.

I’ve signed it and want to share it on Facebook but I can’t because I’ve disabled platforms. How else can I do it? I’ve tried copying the link but the gobbledygook is there which means nothing to anyone else.

Gosh, it's going up quick!

Will this be the driver to get more prominent people to step up?

Thanks to all for signing. More and more signatories are joining all the time, including some well-known names, LGBT and straight people, and trans too. We also have a letter in The Times on Thursday, and an article. Please do take a look and share widely.

Many thanks for supporting this.

Jonny

Thank you, Jonny.

Letter published in Times as follows:
STONEWALL CRITICISED
Sir, Stonewall has played a leading role in advancing the rights of lesbians, gays and bisexuals; it has also campaigned on transgender issues since 2015. We believe that it has made mistakes in its approach that are undermining women’s sex-based rights and protections.

The government’s public consultation on proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act closes on October 19, so it is vital for there to be a debate about transgender politics and the rights of women and girls. Stonewall disagrees, and calls debate on this matter “transphobic”.
We urge Stonewall to acknowledge that there are a range of valid viewpoints around sex, gender and transgender politics, and to acknowledge specifically that a conflict exists between transgenderism and sex-based women’s rights. We call on Stonewall to commit to fostering an atmosphere of respectful debate rather than demonising as transphobic those who wish to discuss, or dissent from, Stonewall’s transgender policies.

Jonathan Best, former director of Queer Up North; Julie Bindel, journalist and feminist campaigner; Maureen Chadwick, TV writer; Beatrix Campbell, writer; James Dreyfus, actor; Kate Harris, former fundraiser for Stonewall; Philip Hensher, author; Kathleen Stock, philosopher; Caroline Spry, TV producer; Miranda Yardley, transsexual rights activist; Alison Moyet, singer; Paul Burston, author; Kristina Harrison, paramedic and transwoman; Darren Johnson, London Assembly Member 2000-16; Eileen Gallagher, television producer; Claire Graham, intersex advocate; Jane Harris, author

Excellent work Jonny.
Many thanks to you and to the other signatories also

Signed. Proud to put my full name to it. I think Jonny might end up self-riding as a MNetter! But would we accept him?

Self-Riding!!!! Self-IDing. Fecking autocorrect!

The letter to the Times is v close to the top of the homepage

Marvellous

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/stonewall-backing-transgender-bullies-slvn00vng

Can't do sharetoken, soz

Self-riding I thought that was some weird MN phrase I'd never come across. I'm so tickled I might wake the kids laughing.

I've run out of my free articles allowance, anyone got a share token for this?

The Times article the is.

That is! Oh lordy, I'm too old and tired to stay up this late. Floral you made me laugh! Note to self - get some varifocals sorted out.

I only know how to get the sharetoken in the app, Thursdays edition isn't available in the morning. Will try then, if no one else beats me to it.

Thank your Jonny et al.

Oh, and yes I signed.

WichBitch Jonny is already a Mumsnetter! He's posted here several times.

We luffs him

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe
Jonny's posted about 4 posts before you did 😂 about 5 to midnight.

Isnt it fab? Sign share & keep sharing

Signed.

Sadly Stonewall are too invested in the misogynistic homophobic line they have chosen to take to renege now I fear.

I wonder if Ruth Hunt and Stonewall senior management and their trustees ever have moments of self doubt over this? Where they wonder if, maybe, the growing number of intelligent, liberal people speaking out against them may have a point?

Or do they just bravely jut their chins out and continue telling each other and themselves that this is JUST like the homophobia of days of yore and that we all just need to be educated and that they need to keep fighting the good fight and eventually we will see the light.

I suspect it’s the latter.

Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/stonewall-backing-transgender-bullies-slvn00vng?shareToken=e476f008a8b17f0918a7119fe0051caa

And for the actual letter:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/second-referendum-and-the-brexit-deadlock-qzr5qllkh?shareToken=23ff2ab43024e60713015e961df4c65c

It makes me very sad. Stonewall has such influence and it has used its power to advance only the rights of a small sector of the people it should be helping. So much harm has been done to women, especially lesbian. It is very interesting to read the threads on Ruth Hunt, CEO, and to ponder her motivations. How can How can an intelligent women have accepted unquestioningly the line 'transwomen are women'? We are now reaping the harvest of that insulting untruth