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Petition to Stonewall

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ecosomething · 03/10/2018 20:51

New petition launched calling on Stonewall to:

  • Acknowledge that there are a range of valid viewpoints around sex, gender and transgender politics
  • Acknowledge specifically the conflict that exists between transgenderism and sex-based women’s rights
  • Commit to fostering an atmosphere of respectful debate, rather than demonising as transphobic those who wish to discuss or dissent from Stonewall’s current policies

Link here: www.ipetitions.com/petition/dear-stonewall-please-reconsider-your-approach

OP posts:
Serfisafleur · 04/10/2018 09:05

Signed.
Didn't donate though.

Estellesylvia · 04/10/2018 09:20

Ruth Hunt should resign. On her watch Stonewall has gone from a credible well respected organisation to one that is synonymous with serious misogyny and homophobia.

LangCleg · 04/10/2018 09:24

And I do wonder, if, in the end, Stonewall will go the way of Kids Company. So many fingers in so many dodgy pies, yet so much reverence by people in power.

And Stonewall dwarfs Kids Company in terms of reach and finance. Their fall, if it occurs, will be spectacular.

LangCleg · 04/10/2018 09:27

GetOvaIt - Charity commission reminding charities to focus on helping people and not pushing their agenda.

I agree. And I think it's the leadership being drawn from elite social closure via the pomo-ridden liberal academy that is the biggest problem. So I'm not confident this will happen. These people are unable to reflect on their own failures, and it's this that has led us into a corporate third sector that does not represent its service users. Indeed, is often actually harmful to its service users.

Threewheeler1 · 04/10/2018 09:28

Thanks for the link. Signed.

R0wantrees · 04/10/2018 09:29

Stonewall, like the Labour Party, have been subject to serious entryism. This time TRAs rather than Momentum.

Miranda Yardley article: 'Ma Vie En Rose: Ruth Hunt’s Rose-Tinted Trans*Goggles and the anti-Woman Politics of Stonewall'
(extract)
"I first spoke with Stonewall’s Ruth Hunt just over three years ago when the organisation announced it would be engaging with the transgender community. This resulted in the forming of the Stonewall Trans Advisory Group, you know that motley crew of transgender tyrants, including the self-styled (styled as if it were 1973) answer for any heterosexual woman who wishes to bring out her ‘inner lesbian’, Alex ‘Beardy’ Drummond. cheeky wink

Ruth, bless her fighting heart, has been defending transgender activists to an extraordinary degree, indeed there appears to be no transgression she cannot overlook with her inbuilt sense of forgiveness which seems divine in breadth and depth. She has embraced the very dogma that makes real life discussion, debate and compromise with transgenderists impossible, dogma which positions the interests of the T in ‘LGBT’ in opposition to anyone who considers biological sex to be important in any material way: trans women are women, no debate, end of.

Quite aside from it being cruel to humour delusional claims of one being something one is not, positioning one’s acceptance of an individual on a lie is outright dishonest. And anyway, what is a lesbian and gay group doing when it considers the thoughts and feelings of personal identity more important than the reality of our sexed bodies?" (continues)
mirandayardley.com/en/ma-vie-en-rose-ruth-hunts-rose-tinted-transgoggles-and-the-anti-woman-politics-of-stonewall/
picture from article

Petition to Stonewall
ChattyLion · 04/10/2018 09:29

I think it’s really important not to let the Stonewall Trustees off the hook. In charity governance terms, they set the agenda and the executive (led by CEO Ruth Hunt) are simply paid to go off and fulfil it.

A change of CEO, is significant but unless there is a commitment to a change of policy among the Chair of Trustees signed up to by all of the Trustees- is not effective alone.

They should all consider their positions.

AbsintheFriends · 04/10/2018 09:51

Today I'm going to be complaining to the charities commission about stonewall and their link to the youtube video encouraging primary-aged children to fill in the GRA consultation.

They have strayed into dangerous territory, under cover of their status as a respected organisation. As well as 'undermining women's sex-based rights and protections' I'd add exploiting children for a political purpose and undermining safeguarding.

BootsandSlippers · 04/10/2018 09:52

So happy to see this today. Signed.

LilyMumsnet · 04/10/2018 10:02

Hi all

We're just moving this over to our petitions topic now. Flowers

ToeToToe · 04/10/2018 10:34

Jeez that video.

Stonewall - grooming the nation's children into damaging gender stereotypes via youtube Hmm

RubyViolet · 04/10/2018 10:35

I wondered where this thread had gone . Bumping.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/10/2018 10:51

I'm sure we can count on rowan to be our Theseus installing guiding ropes in the labyrinth of MN boards and threads. GrinThanks

YessicaHaircut · 04/10/2018 10:56

Thank you for sharing this OP and huge thanks to Johnny et al 💐

Signed, commented and shared on Facebook.

SymphonyofShadows · 04/10/2018 11:04

I've signed and asked for my signature to be withheld. I've explained why, using the example of doxxing dissenting voices

SuburbanRhonda · 04/10/2018 11:07

I thought about not signing my real name but then I thought, I’m 57 years old and I am not going to be intimidated by anyone who says I can’t talk about stuff that I’m worried about.

PencilsInSpace · 04/10/2018 11:12

Ruth Hunt has written a response. It's awful.

www.stonewall.org.uk/stonewall-stories-category/come-out-lgbt/our-work-trans-equality-heart-our-mission-acceptance

Keep signing everyone!

FloralBunting · 04/10/2018 11:22

That's the 'Digging my heels in because you're saying trans people don't exist' response.

Nothing at all in actual answer to what's been put to them. Just more shadow boxing and hefty amount of jutting out the chin defiantly. I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that there are people that it's impossible to communicate rationally with.

SymphonyofShadows · 04/10/2018 11:22

Rhonda I did think about it but sadly it's because of the nature of my work that I need to be careful. That in itself is maddening.

JessicaJonesJacket · 04/10/2018 11:24

Thanks for sharing this. And thanks to Johnny and the other founding signatories.

Wilhelminawonka · 04/10/2018 11:27

Signed and shared and my real name too.
You lot are turning me into an activist

VforVienetta · 04/10/2018 11:51

Signed, and about to share on FB. Seriously crossing my fingers it won’t end up in a bunfight.

gendercritter · 04/10/2018 11:52

Signed. You can do so anonymously if anyone is concerned.

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