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Should white south africans be allowed to return to europe?

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lastuseraccount123 · 11/08/2015 16:54

www.change.org/p/european-commission-allow-all-white-south-africans-the-right-to-return-to-europe

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lastuseraccount123 · 11/08/2015 22:07

march sure, can you share me some links about him? happy to read some other views.

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lastuseraccount123 · 11/08/2015 22:11

in canada, a couple was initially denied refugee status, but they appealed. The judge basically backed them up and told the refugee board to reconsider their application. I thought that was interesting.

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JassyRadlett · 11/08/2015 22:14

So... they were treated with the same due process as other refugees.

I've been thinking about the Israel point. For the principle to hold, the 'right of return' would need to extend to all people of European descent, regardless of whether they are considered at risk.

That's an awful lot of people.

MarchLikeAnAnt · 11/08/2015 22:20

The judge basically backed them up and told the refugee board to reconsider their application. I thought that was interesting

It happens in the UK all the time re: asylum seekers from all over the world. Nothing interesting about it.

Degustibusnonestdisputandem · 11/08/2015 22:21

I'm wondering why Australia is not on that list!

JassyRadlett · 12/08/2015 11:56

I'm wondering why Australia is not on that list!

That's what made me think the list had an element of bias to it.

Doublebubblebubble · 12/08/2015 16:24

Sorry for late reply but I have been having a bit of a problem with the mn app.

In reply to you - last I know you're not sure. You seem to struggle with the difference between basic opinion and fact - you said yourself that a friend of yours backtracked upon questioning and that instantly meant that they were in denial. the fact is that you are dead set, whatever ANYONE says - that they and we were wrong and there is some mad conspiracy going on.

Another fwiw but A couple of friends of mine were in Durban\joberg\ capetown abouta 3 weeks ago. Said they had a lovely time, it was absolutely beautiful yadadada (they were actually on honeymoon) - they showed me all of their boring lovely pictures- I know what you're probably going to say... They were probably sheltered or too far away from anything bad etc nope sorry,. Not their style) but funnily and weirdly enough considering everything you've said they didn't happen to mention that there was a genocide going on whilst they were exploring the country... Which to be honest is weird for them as i can't normally shut them up most days anyway im getting sidetracked. I think I've made a valid point before though - white south Africans have about as much right to return to Europe as I do to return to Africa. None.

And this has Nothing to do with what people deserve - at all. And I'm not saying that it isn't dangerous in SA but its kind of dangerous everywhere in the world at the minute...

Let's play devils advocate and white SA's DID get to "return" - without applying for asylum because they have a "birthright".

would it be anywhere in particular???
would it be anywhere in Europe?? And that being said - would it be Europe as it is now or Europe as it was 400 years ago....
Where would that be exactly?
Where does having white skin get you in the scheme of things? And thusly,
Where does having black skin get you in the scheme of things?
Would you still be south African by nationality?, would you be able to pick another nationality? I am genuinely curious as to where\what you think

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