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Pedants' corner

It's ARSE! 🇬🇧

203 replies

BlowDryRat · 14/07/2024 08:17

Unless you're American, in which case it's "ass".

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Jennyathemall · 14/07/2024 08:24

Thanks for that

BlowDryRat · 14/07/2024 08:59

You're most welcome.

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protectoroftherealm · 14/07/2024 09:00

Yes. Yes it is. It's also series, not season.

Sethera · 14/07/2024 09:05

Well, it depends whether you're comparing someone to a bum-hole, or a donkey.

DappledThings · 14/07/2024 09:06

Indeed. I get pissed off about it. I don't get pissed about it, why would getting drunk be relevant?

marshmallowfinder · 14/07/2024 09:14

YES. It's also a FILM. Not a movie.

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 09:17

I have got so sick of Americanisms. Not gotten.

*yes yes I know that gotten is old English, we stopped using it they kept blah blah blah but the fact remains that it’s not British usage any more.

DoYouSmokePaul · 14/07/2024 09:22

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 09:17

I have got so sick of Americanisms. Not gotten.

*yes yes I know that gotten is old English, we stopped using it they kept blah blah blah but the fact remains that it’s not British usage any more.

Is Scotland not Britain? 🤨

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 09:23

DoYouSmokePaul · 14/07/2024 09:22

Is Scotland not Britain? 🤨

I’m Scottish. Born and bred. Never ever said “gotten” or heard anyone say it here.

People say “goat” a lot instead of “got”, are you mishearing perhaps?

DoYouSmokePaul · 14/07/2024 09:27

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 09:23

I’m Scottish. Born and bred. Never ever said “gotten” or heard anyone say it here.

People say “goat” a lot instead of “got”, are you mishearing perhaps?

Edited

What does that prove? I’m Scottish and I hear it all the time and did growing up in the 80s as well so not a recent thing. Obviously people all over Scotland speak differently and use different words. But gotten has always been used in some parts of Scotland.

I am not mishearing it over the last 40 years, no.

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 09:29

I mean it's different things to different people so.....

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 14/07/2024 09:44

And in the UK it’s maths. Which is short for mathematics.

baroqueandblue · 14/07/2024 09:48

Hi!

(not "Hey" 🙄)

ramonaquimby · 14/07/2024 09:50

Wow, such dislike for expressions. Language evolves. I'm not British, my kids have grown up with me saying lots of these and others which they say now too.
americanophobia anyone?

Spirallingdownwards · 14/07/2024 09:53

ramonaquimby · 14/07/2024 09:50

Wow, such dislike for expressions. Language evolves. I'm not British, my kids have grown up with me saying lots of these and others which they say now too.
americanophobia anyone?

No not Americanaphobia. This is pedants' corner where you are allowed to come to express distate at using language incorrectly or inappropriately. Maybe as you are not British you didn't understand what the word pedant meant so I would forgive you that.

RichardsGear · 14/07/2024 09:53

DoYouSmokePaul · 14/07/2024 09:27

What does that prove? I’m Scottish and I hear it all the time and did growing up in the 80s as well so not a recent thing. Obviously people all over Scotland speak differently and use different words. But gotten has always been used in some parts of Scotland.

I am not mishearing it over the last 40 years, no.

Edited

I'm NE England and gotten is said a lot. Eg. 'He's gotten bigger over the last couple of years.' I wouldn't write it but it's definitely in the vernacular.

baroqueandblue · 14/07/2024 09:56

ramonaquimby · 14/07/2024 09:50

Wow, such dislike for expressions. Language evolves. I'm not British, my kids have grown up with me saying lots of these and others which they say now too.
americanophobia anyone?

It's cultural capitulation in the UK, I can't speak for anywhere else. People have these fantasies about themselves sounding all cool like in the (American) films and telly. To me it just sounds like brainwashing into cultural hegemony, which people have fallen for. Language is culture.

BlowDryRat · 14/07/2024 09:58

Sethera · 14/07/2024 09:05

Well, it depends whether you're comparing someone to a bum-hole, or a donkey.

Edited

Whenever I see "ass" I think of Donkey in Shrek.

Other pet hate: "obligated". Obliged, please.

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MillshakePickle · 14/07/2024 09:59

BlowDryRat · 14/07/2024 08:17

Unless you're American, in which case it's "ass".

Or Canadian

faffadoodledo · 14/07/2024 09:59

baroqueandblue · 14/07/2024 09:48

Hi!

(not "Hey" 🙄)

Gosh yes, 'hey' has become ubiquitous as a greeting. I blame Friends where it was the greeting of choice.

RichardsGear · 14/07/2024 09:59

Using the earlier example, 'I've gotten so so sick of Americanisms,' would definitely be said, rather than, 'I've got so sick...' Gotten pronounced "gott'n". If I was writing it, I'd put, 'I've become so sick...'

ramonaquimby · 14/07/2024 10:00

Spirallingdownwards · 14/07/2024 09:53

No not Americanaphobia. This is pedants' corner where you are allowed to come to express distate at using language incorrectly or inappropriately. Maybe as you are not British you didn't understand what the word pedant meant so I would forgive you that.

Edited

I'd argue that it's not incorrect or inappropriate usage. Thanks for forgiveness 😂. I do indeed know what pedant means. Will leave the pedants to it.

HumerousHumous · 14/07/2024 10:01

I didn't realise there was a Pedant's Corner on MN. You are my people and I can come here to vent instead of a DH who gets fed up with it, also dislike Americanisms (nothing against American or Americans) eg:
"Can I get" when someone ordering food or drink in a cafe. Yeah sure, come round and get it but it's fine, I'm paid to help you".
"I'm pissed" - really?! At this time of the day?!

BlowDryRat · 14/07/2024 10:02

I don't mind Americanisms in American TV shows, films etc. I'm not suggesting that Americans adopt British English.

I dislike British English words being replaced with Americanisms when the people using them are from the UK.

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Spirallingdownwards · 14/07/2024 10:04

ramonaquimby · 14/07/2024 10:00

I'd argue that it's not incorrect or inappropriate usage. Thanks for forgiveness 😂. I do indeed know what pedant means. Will leave the pedants to it.

It is incorrect and inappropriate to use ass in the UK if you are referring to an arse (bum) rather than an ass (donkey).