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It's ARSE! 🇬🇧

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BlowDryRat · 14/07/2024 08:17

Unless you're American, in which case it's "ass".

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BiscuityBoyle · 15/07/2024 19:27

SerendipityJane · 15/07/2024 19:14

When did "named after" (like wot I learned growing up in London) morph into "named for" ?

And who do I write to to change it back ?

About the same time as ‘based on’ became ‘based off’.

Foundanotherwrinkle · 15/07/2024 19:47

Another one that hates all the Americanisms taking over. DS will say he wants a shirt he's seen, "Why? You never go anywhere to wear a shirt? Oh, you mean T-shirt?"
also he collects "pins" which I can't use for my sewing because they're actually badges.
Another spelling I've noticed more and more that irrationally irritates me is pajamas. As well as Center, color and favorite. I usually say "I didn't realise you were American?" 🙈

Cangar · 15/07/2024 20:01

What about the Greek government who recently said that a certain percentage of music played in Greek hotels had to be Greek? Xenophobic too?

Im not sure I’d call it xenophobic but it’s a completely ridiculous rule assuming it’s true.

Cangar · 15/07/2024 20:04

Can I get" when someone ordering food or drink in a cafe. Yeah sure, come round and get it but it's fine, I'm paid to help you

If someone asks you “what did you get for your birthday?” I hope you smugly tell them you got nothing as other people gave them to you. What is it you think get means exactly?

CarolinaInTheMorning · 15/07/2024 20:04

Isn't it Hello? I am sure I was told that Hi was American.

On both sides of the pond, we can thank an American (Thomas Edison) for "hello" as a casual greeting. Its usage before the invention of the telephone was primarily for catching someone's attention from a distance. Alexander Graham Bell wanted "ahoy," but Edison preferred "hello," and that won the day. From telephone usage, it became a casual greeting for in-person encounters as well.

I'm from the American South. "Hey" is used here just as often or even more often than "hi."

Butterworths · 15/07/2024 20:11

CarolinaInTheMorning · 15/07/2024 20:04

Isn't it Hello? I am sure I was told that Hi was American.

On both sides of the pond, we can thank an American (Thomas Edison) for "hello" as a casual greeting. Its usage before the invention of the telephone was primarily for catching someone's attention from a distance. Alexander Graham Bell wanted "ahoy," but Edison preferred "hello," and that won the day. From telephone usage, it became a casual greeting for in-person encounters as well.

I'm from the American South. "Hey" is used here just as often or even more often than "hi."

If we're going to pick up a new phone greeting from anywhere then I vote for Japan where they say moshi moshi.

FiveFoxes · 15/07/2024 20:40

CarolinaInTheMorning · 15/07/2024 20:04

Isn't it Hello? I am sure I was told that Hi was American.

On both sides of the pond, we can thank an American (Thomas Edison) for "hello" as a casual greeting. Its usage before the invention of the telephone was primarily for catching someone's attention from a distance. Alexander Graham Bell wanted "ahoy," but Edison preferred "hello," and that won the day. From telephone usage, it became a casual greeting for in-person encounters as well.

I'm from the American South. "Hey" is used here just as often or even more often than "hi."

That is fascinating!

I have just remembered there was a Call the Midwife episode where someone was told off for saying hello and the phrase to say was Good Morning!

CarolinaInTheMorning · 15/07/2024 21:15

I have just remembered there was a Call the Midwife episode where someone was told off for saying hello and the phrase to say was Good Morning!

Supposedly a greeting that mentioned the time of day was rejected by Bell and Edison and others in anticipation of calls across different time zones. I assume that was not a huge concern in Poplar in the 1950s.

BiscuityBoyle · 15/07/2024 22:27

Cangar · 15/07/2024 20:01

What about the Greek government who recently said that a certain percentage of music played in Greek hotels had to be Greek? Xenophobic too?

Im not sure I’d call it xenophobic but it’s a completely ridiculous rule assuming it’s true.

It is true. I don’t think it’s a ridiculous rule at all. The Greek government is concerned about Greece losing its cultural identity. Ensuring that a certain amount of music has the language or is Greek in origin is fairly easy to do.

TimeandMotion · 15/07/2024 23:49

CarolinaInTheMorning · 15/07/2024 20:04

Isn't it Hello? I am sure I was told that Hi was American.

On both sides of the pond, we can thank an American (Thomas Edison) for "hello" as a casual greeting. Its usage before the invention of the telephone was primarily for catching someone's attention from a distance. Alexander Graham Bell wanted "ahoy," but Edison preferred "hello," and that won the day. From telephone usage, it became a casual greeting for in-person encounters as well.

I'm from the American South. "Hey" is used here just as often or even more often than "hi."

Love this, especially the image of people picking up the phone and saying “Ahoy!” Grin

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/07/2024 09:28

Ditto to ‘pissed’ when they mean ‘pissed off’!

When I’m a dictator it will mean a statutory fortnight in a rat-infested dungeon. 😈
Non-Brits excepted of course.

SerendipityJane · 16/07/2024 10:31

CarolinaInTheMorning · 15/07/2024 21:15

I have just remembered there was a Call the Midwife episode where someone was told off for saying hello and the phrase to say was Good Morning!

Supposedly a greeting that mentioned the time of day was rejected by Bell and Edison and others in anticipation of calls across different time zones. I assume that was not a huge concern in Poplar in the 1950s.

Yet another reminder (if it were needed) that the US and UK are very very different places and what works in one, may not work in the other.

RitaIncognita · 16/07/2024 12:20

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/07/2024 09:28

Ditto to ‘pissed’ when they mean ‘pissed off’!

When I’m a dictator it will mean a statutory fortnight in a rat-infested dungeon. 😈
Non-Brits excepted of course.

That's a good thing (that non-Brits are excepted); otherwise you would need to say "two weeks" for Americans to understand you.

Jennyathemall · 16/07/2024 12:24

sanityisamyth · 14/07/2024 22:28

Absolutely this. I wasn't allowed to watch any American tv growing up, and DS doesn't either.

Ha DS doesn’t watch any American tv? I’ve heard it all now.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/07/2024 14:10

Jennyathemall · 16/07/2024 12:24

Ha DS doesn’t watch any American tv? I’ve heard it all now.

One reason I was a fan of Peppa Pig for Gdcs (aside from the fact of some P&Q) was that they ‘talked proper’!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/07/2024 14:12

CarolinaInTheMorning · 15/07/2024 20:04

Isn't it Hello? I am sure I was told that Hi was American.

On both sides of the pond, we can thank an American (Thomas Edison) for "hello" as a casual greeting. Its usage before the invention of the telephone was primarily for catching someone's attention from a distance. Alexander Graham Bell wanted "ahoy," but Edison preferred "hello," and that won the day. From telephone usage, it became a casual greeting for in-person encounters as well.

I'm from the American South. "Hey" is used here just as often or even more often than "hi."

‘Hiya’ used to be - maybe still is - common in various parts of the UK.

Butterworths · 16/07/2024 14:45

My mum used to tell me off so saying hiya - she considered it common.

HappiestSleeping · 16/07/2024 18:29

Butterworths · 16/07/2024 14:45

My mum used to tell me off so saying hiya - she considered it common.

Whatto is much more suitable.

Thighdentitycrisis · 16/07/2024 19:02

Looking to do something is one of my pet hates. No idea what continent that came from. Surely they mean planning on ?

Thighdentitycrisis · 16/07/2024 19:02

Or is it planning to?

HappiestSleeping · 16/07/2024 19:18

Another one for you all. At work, we had to 'speak to' the slide.

Not only do I despise PowerPoint with a passion, but surely I can 'speak about' the slide and not to it?

user18423052 · 17/07/2024 22:55

@HappiestSleeping "speak to" the point on the agenda at my work. Certainly, I can do that, although I don't expect the agenda will have much to contribute by way of a response.

StrikeItMucky · 22/07/2024 22:19

I hate all of the following and sadly I am hearing and reading them (in UK news articles) more and more;
"Bring"... when they mean Take
"Me either"... instead of Me Neither
Apples are better "Then" Pears!!
"Pay check"
"Poop"
"Excited for"
"Cupcake"
"Frosting"
"Jean Jacket"
"ATM"
"Hot flash"...it's FLUSH. Hot FLUSH. Ffs!!
I'm sure there are many more that are making their way into British English, that I will hate, just as much!

BiscuityBoyle · 22/07/2024 22:46

StrikeItMucky · 22/07/2024 22:19

I hate all of the following and sadly I am hearing and reading them (in UK news articles) more and more;
"Bring"... when they mean Take
"Me either"... instead of Me Neither
Apples are better "Then" Pears!!
"Pay check"
"Poop"
"Excited for"
"Cupcake"
"Frosting"
"Jean Jacket"
"ATM"
"Hot flash"...it's FLUSH. Hot FLUSH. Ffs!!
I'm sure there are many more that are making their way into British English, that I will hate, just as much!

The only one I will allow from that list is cupcake. They are larger than a fairy cake and so to my mind a different item all together.

DappledThings · 22/07/2024 22:52

BiscuityBoyle · 22/07/2024 22:46

The only one I will allow from that list is cupcake. They are larger than a fairy cake and so to my mind a different item all together.

I agree entirely, with both the original list and this exemption for cupcake.