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Pedants' corner

It's ARSE! 🇬🇧

203 replies

BlowDryRat · 14/07/2024 08:17

Unless you're American, in which case it's "ass".

OP posts:
chippylips · 14/07/2024 13:45

BlowDryRat · 14/07/2024 10:02

I don't mind Americanisms in American TV shows, films etc. I'm not suggesting that Americans adopt British English.

I dislike British English words being replaced with Americanisms when the people using them are from the UK.

I mean language travels. I watched an interview with Jon Bongiovi where he repeatedly said "shite" not shit, shite. That's not an Americanism but he's so welcome to it. Made me love him even more

IPartridge · 14/07/2024 13:46

protectoroftherealm · 14/07/2024 09:00

Yes. Yes it is. It's also series, not season.

Apparently the correct language is the programme as a whole is a series and each individual run is a season.

(from the The Rest is Entertainment podcast)

sanityisamyth · 14/07/2024 13:46

protectoroftherealm · 14/07/2024 09:00

Yes. Yes it is. It's also series, not season.

Oh 100% this!

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 13:46

Absolutely not. It’s the fault of the British for not trying hard enough to retain British expressions.

“Thanks for that Olivia Rodrigo” was a joke on exactly that point, deflecting blame onto the Americans when it is our own fault. Bit subtle for some people it would seem.

RichardsGear · 14/07/2024 13:51

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 13:34

Durr obviously. The point is that her American song became popular here.

And?! As if countless American songs aren't popular here. Durr indeed.

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 13:51

Putting · 14/07/2024 13:05

It’s also “organise”, “recognise” etc not “organize”, “recognize”. I’m so fed up of one of my colleagues constantly amending my perfectly correct spellings (we’re both British and working in the UK so no excuse).

Both are correct in British English but the “z” is much less commonly used here. It’s also important to be consistent, so I would point it out at work if someone whose work I was reviewing wrote “I recognise that it is important to organize”. I would not correct a consistent use of the “z” variation, even though it would not be my own stylistic choice.

RichardsGear · 14/07/2024 13:52

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 13:46

Absolutely not. It’s the fault of the British for not trying hard enough to retain British expressions.

“Thanks for that Olivia Rodrigo” was a joke on exactly that point, deflecting blame onto the Americans when it is our own fault. Bit subtle for some people it would seem.

Don't be so patronising.

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 13:52

RichardsGear · 14/07/2024 13:51

And?! As if countless American songs aren't popular here. Durr indeed.

Big Olivia fan are you? Please see subsequent post for explanation of why it was an attempt at humour.

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 13:53

RichardsGear · 14/07/2024 13:52

Don't be so patronising.

Don’t be so touchy.

Putting · 14/07/2024 13:53

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 13:51

Both are correct in British English but the “z” is much less commonly used here. It’s also important to be consistent, so I would point it out at work if someone whose work I was reviewing wrote “I recognise that it is important to organize”. I would not correct a consistent use of the “z” variation, even though it would not be my own stylistic choice.

I always use the “s” version, no inconsistency here - he always changes it to “z”, which I then change back! House style supports my spelling so he’s just being stupid.

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 13:54

Putting · 14/07/2024 13:53

I always use the “s” version, no inconsistency here - he always changes it to “z”, which I then change back! House style supports my spelling so he’s just being stupid.

That would boil my piss. Is he American?

Why is someone who is clearly worse at English than you checking your spelling anyway?

BurntBroccoli · 14/07/2024 13:58

Release a new album - not drop

Borgonzola · 14/07/2024 13:58

ramonaquimby · 14/07/2024 09:50

Wow, such dislike for expressions. Language evolves. I'm not British, my kids have grown up with me saying lots of these and others which they say now too.
americanophobia anyone?

This is pedants' corner, it's actually allowed here

RichardsGear · 14/07/2024 14:04

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 13:53

Don’t be so touchy.

I'm simply finding you irritating pontificating at length on this thread. You made a sweeping statement earlier that 'gotten' is not in British usage any more. More than one poster has pointed out that, actually, it is, but that seems to have gone <whoosh> over your head.

There's being a pedant and there's being a pain in the arse.

If you were going to fire off a pithy reply then don't bother, because I can't be arsed reading any more of this.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 14/07/2024 14:06

I’m a lawyer and find junior people use it in drafting all the time. Red pen time!

You're in the UK and using 'lawyer' rather than solicitor?

Pedants' corner certainly isn't what it was.

BiscuityBoyle · 14/07/2024 14:08

People do use gotten all the time, but they didn’t used to.

HappiestSleeping · 14/07/2024 14:14

Pinkywoo · 14/07/2024 10:35

Also in Norfolk!

Have moving pictures made it to Norfolk? 😉

I would add to your list @BlowDryRat by saying that, unless a person is a member of the Four Tops, we don't 'reach out' to you, we call you!!

ladyvimes · 14/07/2024 14:15

The kids at school have started saying ‘I can’t be asked’. It’s driving me crazy but I suppose it’s better than the correct version!!

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 14:15

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 14/07/2024 14:06

I’m a lawyer and find junior people use it in drafting all the time. Red pen time!

You're in the UK and using 'lawyer' rather than solicitor?

Pedants' corner certainly isn't what it was.

I think you are getting mixed up with “attorney”. Lawyer is the umbrella term for solicitors and barristers/advocates. It’s absolutely standard use in every law firm in the UK.

TakeOnFlea · 14/07/2024 14:20

"That would boil my piss. Is he American?"

Boil my piss is worse

Pinkywoo · 14/07/2024 14:25

HappiestSleeping · 14/07/2024 14:14

Have moving pictures made it to Norfolk? 😉

I would add to your list @BlowDryRat by saying that, unless a person is a member of the Four Tops, we don't 'reach out' to you, we call you!!

Yes but they don't have sound yet.

TimeandMotion · 14/07/2024 15:00

TakeOnFlea · 14/07/2024 14:20

"That would boil my piss. Is he American?"

Boil my piss is worse

You may not like it, but it’s not an Americanism and this thread is specifically about Americanisms.

winstinsandgins · 14/07/2024 15:06

In this part of the world arse would be erse!

JaneJeffer · 14/07/2024 15:28

BiscuityBoyle · 14/07/2024 14:08

People do use gotten all the time, but they didn’t used to.

Always used in Hiberno-English

TheBizzies · 14/07/2024 16:05

Putting · 14/07/2024 13:19

It’s always been Merry Christmas here. It was good enough for Dickens, who was English!

Also you can’t wish someone a Happy Christmas and a Merry New Year! That would just be wrong if arguably more accurate

I didn't say she was right 😉