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massivestress · 21/05/2026 13:35

Name changed for this as I’m aware I will sound like a complete cow.
i can’t cope mentally anymore. My ds has a mental illness which has taken over their life. No job, moved out for a couple weeks, couldn’t cope. Has taken over the dining room and is in there 24/7 except to come and eat all the snacks or have dinner if I cajole them.
wont engage with social services, attends therapy we pay for at £200 a session (fortnightly, I’m in debt) as the NHS more severe support is shit and has a waiting list anyway. Is almost 30. Has given up all hope. Doesn’t pay anything to us due to some bloody stupid choices they can’t change now. It’s like my life is over. ive suggested going on the council list - no. Over the years we’ve paid for so much therapy and supported things. I can’t see an end in sight, I’m just stuck now with this person getting older and more and more reclusive.

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nothokngtolietoyou · 09/08/2026 08:32

Hi Op - not been through this myself but I know a family who has. Adult son with autism and mental health, verbally and (at times) physically abusive. They lived on constant ‘high alert’ and the entire household was controlled by son’s illness. Eventually, supported housing became the only option. It wasn’t ’kicking him out’, it was getting him ready for a world where mum and dad weren’t there and where he’d have to survive solo.

The emotional struggle was eased by learning that sometimes ‘love must be
tough’. Love sometimes means ‘I’m doing this for your own good’. For what it’s worth, getting son into supported housing was the best thing they ever did. It took him a while to settle but once he did, he really began to enjoy the independence. He’s always going to be limited in what he’s able to do but he’s definitely grown and his MH has been stable now for a few years.

Meanwhile, mum and dad have bought a motorhome and go off on lovely weekend breaks, free of the stress of it all.

redmapleleaves1 · 09/08/2026 14:58

My DS, 24 said to me last night 'why did no one teach me to live independently?' It was said in accusatory way, but has given me pause for thought, as while he has been living independently at university for 3 years till his breakdown last summer, clearly he feels now has has no clue how to be, and is (also) doing nothing. I'm much more a 'well everyone chooses their own path and works things out for themselves' kind of parent, - and I did show him how to do lots of things as a teenager and have him doing jobs round the house, but it strikes me he is in a phase of wanting things very clearcut, and this is something I can help with. A schedule towards living independently.

I brought him up as a single mum from the age of 11, with his father largely absent. He said yesterday too that the conspiracy theorists give clear male voices on what to think (just, imo, that they are wrong, and that confident doesn't mean right). I can see that him searching and wondering how to be a good man, you do need active role models. I did try to provide these, and he was active in football clubs, youth groups etc, however, I do see the gap, even though it feels hard he frames it as my fault, not his father's absence.

He said too, 'You and dad never spoke about what you believe.' I find this really startling, I'm an active member of the leadership team of a liberal church and try really hard to put my beliefs into action. He went as a child and young person to faith-related youth groups, and we lived in another country in Africa for 4 years, where we were really explicit how fortunate we were, and what we did daily to support others who were less fortunate. His father has worked for 30 years on some of the trickier social issues of our time. But somehow these actions, and nudges through childhood and teenage years, aren't seen as explicit as youtube influencers spouting for 5 minutes on other peoples wrongs.

massivestress · 13/08/2026 16:44

That’s interesting @redmapleleaves1amd tbh I kind of think I’m similar with the others. I’ve always just got on and done things and it’s really tough now to have some lazy lumps of kids (not the ill one) who don’t know how to/wont do it because it’s not their mess/can’t remember how to do it etc.

on my other one - I’m just losing the will to live. The nhs appointment had to be rescheduled as I couldn’t attend (it was a call) with them so is now end of September. We are in limbo. I send angry texts which I try to temper down but are usually what is the plan/ you can’t live like this/I am going to ring social services etc etc. I hate that they are an adult and choosing to just leech off me and give up on the world. I’m furious about it all even though they just stay in their room, don’t shower now, don’t brush their hair, don’t talk, don’t eat, don’t communicate, and have adopted an infuriating low whisper which feels designed to make me snap at them so they can feel like a victim. Underlying all this is panic. That I will be alone one day with this cuckoo in the nest.

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redmapleleaves1 · 13/08/2026 19:13

I hear you @massivestress. Mine also not washing, getting dressed, taking actions, having a plan, engaging much other than conspiracy theories. I do think it is partly executive functioning overwhelm now, but however.

I went to (a new) counsellor last night, one who has experience of ADHD/carers/other useful aspects. Such a good move, even though the previous one wasn't dire, we deserve people who really get us. Thank you all to those who urged me to try someone else

One of the things he identified was a. that my safe place (home) has been taken over by an intruder, and that if it were anyone else behaving like this, they'd be long gone. Yes our adult children are vulnerable, and this is why we let it continue, but just identifying the impact on my safe space - and need to carve out new ones - has been important.
The massive feeling of impotence of not knowing what is going on, of the uncertainty, and of flogging ourselves so hard to no avail. And that this isn't sustainable, - or maybe even helpful - long term.
Similarly that presenting the conspiracy theories/videos and also not engaging on things I nudge on, are ways to get negative reactions from me; actually a way of exerting control over me. A means to make himself feel better in low mood by being able to wind me round his little finger. A bit like a teenager teasing or standing infront of the tv to annoy. So it might help to drop the lead and see how that is, - it might make no difference for him, but focussing on myself would make a massive difference for me.
I'm on day one of trying this. Still nudging on medicine/prescriptions. Cooking an evening meal. But disengaging on nudging on the rest. Yes I'll still be pleasant and engage somewhat, but not taking on lead responsibility for things which aren't my things. Saying important things once, but then accepting actually they aren't my stuff, and this is another adult here. Who can say if I manage to continue, but wanted to report back, as I thought it might help others too.

Hadenough2022 · 13/08/2026 19:30

That’s very interesting. Sounds like the therapist is going to be useful. I’m starting next week I’m definitely starting to rethink things and realise that I am fed up of everyone’s needs coming before mine. Who knows how many good years I have left I really don’t want to spend it like this.
A friend of mines son dropped out of uni in the pandemic and has been doing very little in the years since. He is not difficult to live with but is stubborn and wouldn’t even go to the drs. However he’s just decided to apply to university. This was something he decided on without any prompting. I guess it shows in some cases things can get better.

Dogaredabomb · 14/08/2026 05:28

Mine does the indistinct voice too! He's the only person on earth who i can't hear properly.

It makes me feel really nervous because I now expect to have to ask for a repeat which locks us into the victim bullshit. I'm the victim here, not him!

He's doing something else which is infuriating me but I think I'm playing my part too. I have some food in my fridge that I'm not going to eat that i know he'll eat.

If i drive over i know I'll have to take it upstairs to his flat rather than him come down to my car for it. It's driving me into a fury and it's stupid of me.

Why don't I just throw it in the bin? Well, the waste. But what's it to ME? In the bin or in his fridge is still no longer cluttering up my space.

I know it's a small, weird thing but it's making me think about my part, or my reaction to his weirdness, something.

He's utterly locked in a pattern of other blaming, hates everyone and never stops complaining.

OP do your best not to text stuff, it all gets used against you in the victim crap.

massivestress · 14/08/2026 10:57

Yes I really need to but it’s infuriating when I have no opportunities to discuss anything. They’ve been living at home for over 6 months now and the initial drive to get a job or recover has gone, and now it’s just daily misery in their room, not leaving the house for anything. I really want to call social services but part of me is scared there is no alternative and I am stuck forever.

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PoppySaidYesIKnow · 14/08/2026 18:15

As he is in the same house as you, refuse to correspond through text messages. If he wants to speak he will have to come and find you to do so, don’t be “summoned” to his room (outside the door) either. That’s a rule you can easily put into place. The other is that if he needs something he gets it himself. Make him do something, anything, that a normal adult has to do. The problem is that you’re at stalemate. I have been here and I know you do everything you can to maintain some peace but there’ll be no improvement without some level of assertiveness on your part.

Bababear987 · 14/08/2026 21:21

massivestress · 14/08/2026 10:57

Yes I really need to but it’s infuriating when I have no opportunities to discuss anything. They’ve been living at home for over 6 months now and the initial drive to get a job or recover has gone, and now it’s just daily misery in their room, not leaving the house for anything. I really want to call social services but part of me is scared there is no alternative and I am stuck forever.

Could you make being at home as uncomfortable as possible for them? Stop cooking, stop wifi, dont pay for anything, dont engage in texts etc
Start living your life, join some local groups and hobbies, go for a walk every night etc dont live to be your child's victim.

redmapleleaves1 · 15/08/2026 14:10

A friend managing in a similar situation better than me, whose ex was also alcoholic, recently recommended Codependent no More by Melodie Beattie. I'm about halfway through, but would strongly recommend it. I think there are all sorts of echoes and helpful pointers, certainly for my situation, and I'd think likely for others on the thread too. Some of the bits I've been underlining have been about the other person in the dynamic being responsible for themselves; that we need to live our lives; and that who can tell what happens if we detach more....

anyway haven't got to the end of it yet, haven't had much experience putting it into practice, but do respect the friend who recommended it, and warm to the messages it is bringing, for my life....

massivestress · 16/08/2026 19:43

Im might try the book.
for the last 4 days ive been asking for cutlery etc to go in the dishwasher. Keeps saying they will. I’ve said tonight (and beat in mind I have to text or stand outside their room) I want it back or I’m coming in at 8am even if I have to break the lock. Got called a f*ing bitch and weirdo.
nhs not due til mid sept. I really want them gone, I hate living with this very ill and unpleasant person clouding the whole house.

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Easilyforgotten · 17/08/2026 04:07

PoppySaidYesIKnow · 14/08/2026 18:15

As he is in the same house as you, refuse to correspond through text messages. If he wants to speak he will have to come and find you to do so, don’t be “summoned” to his room (outside the door) either. That’s a rule you can easily put into place. The other is that if he needs something he gets it himself. Make him do something, anything, that a normal adult has to do. The problem is that you’re at stalemate. I have been here and I know you do everything you can to maintain some peace but there’ll be no improvement without some level of assertiveness on your part.

This OP. What do you think would happen if you just - stopped? Just totally left him to it? At the moment you are giving him something to resist, to fight against, to push back on. Take all that away and what would he do? I completely accept he has issues, but he is also an adult with autonomy and you are enabling his behaviour. I know you are in the trenches and as with so much in life it's easy for an outsider to say, and much harder to actually do, but at moment it doesn't look like he has any incentive to change, so you are going to have to do something to change the dynamic. And that something could just be to drop the rope.

Hadenough2022 · 17/08/2026 13:42

The Co-dependent no more book is 99p as an e book on Apple Books currently if anyone has Apple. I’m going to give it a read.

massivestress · 17/08/2026 16:31

The problem is he doesn’t want to speak. He wants to be left alone, to come in and snack, eat dinner if I make it, and not have anyone ask anything at all. If I stop he won’t pick up the rope.
which is fine short term but where is this heading? I cannot live with a silent, mentally ill, person for the rest of my life. Any real world communication ends in me being called names.
and it means he just accumulates all my cutlery, plates with no way for me to ask/demand them back.

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Easilyforgotten · 17/08/2026 16:55

I understand what you are saying, but this is where you need to get tough. You change the WiFi password and don't give him it, you don't make dinner, you don't have snacks available. I realise you have other children but until he is uncomfortable and not having his basic needs met, nothing will change. Tell him he needs to get himself disposable plates and cutlery because yours isn't available for his use anymore. I assume there is somewhere you can lock away snacks, and your plates and cutlery? Absolutely not ideal in a family home but needs must. I see no other option besides being cruel (as difficult as that is) to break the stalemate. He clearly has no issue being cruel to you.

Dmsandfloatydress · 17/08/2026 17:04

My parents were in this situation. They managed to have him sectioned following a suicide attempt. once he was in hospital they refused to have him at home citing their own mental health needs and inability to care for him. He was placed in a half way house, which wasnt great and then he was eventually housed in his own flat, which took about a year. It was tough but better for him eventually and better for them. No happy endings though, im afraid but my parents day to day life was much more manageable.

Incrediblysad · 17/08/2026 17:08

Easilyforgotten · 17/08/2026 16:55

I understand what you are saying, but this is where you need to get tough. You change the WiFi password and don't give him it, you don't make dinner, you don't have snacks available. I realise you have other children but until he is uncomfortable and not having his basic needs met, nothing will change. Tell him he needs to get himself disposable plates and cutlery because yours isn't available for his use anymore. I assume there is somewhere you can lock away snacks, and your plates and cutlery? Absolutely not ideal in a family home but needs must. I see no other option besides being cruel (as difficult as that is) to break the stalemate. He clearly has no issue being cruel to you.

I agree with this.

Arran2024 · 17/08/2026 17:34

Easilyforgotten · 17/08/2026 16:55

I understand what you are saying, but this is where you need to get tough. You change the WiFi password and don't give him it, you don't make dinner, you don't have snacks available. I realise you have other children but until he is uncomfortable and not having his basic needs met, nothing will change. Tell him he needs to get himself disposable plates and cutlery because yours isn't available for his use anymore. I assume there is somewhere you can lock away snacks, and your plates and cutlery? Absolutely not ideal in a family home but needs must. I see no other option besides being cruel (as difficult as that is) to break the stalemate. He clearly has no issue being cruel to you.

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Easilyforgotten · 17/08/2026 21:46

I genuinely get how difficult it is, there is so much emotion in the mix but ultimately if nothing changes, nothing will change. And quite frankly if he is deemed to pose this level of threat to the OP, he really shouldn't be in a home with other children. Yes he has poor mental health, but he also has agency, and is refusing to engage with any and all support. At some point he is going to have to face the consequences of that lack of engagement.

Hadenough2022 · 18/08/2026 16:31

I am trying not to worry and detach but it’s not easy. I fear what the consequences for my child will be if they continue to disengage. They actually have a job a flat and a partner but I think they are all in danger of going.
I arranged counselling but they say it’s a waste of money. Not if it gets you back to work.

redmapleleaves1 · 19/08/2026 11:40

I really get how hard it is to detach and also worries about the consequences. Various envelopes are coming to the house for my son's former online business, which he has stepped away from but without going through all the paperwork. Then something recorded delivery came last week. I just signed for it, and passed it over. Have nudged about it a few times, but in the end it isn't my name on it. I am such a dutiful woman and this all gives me the heeby jeebies.

Counsellor said something insightful last week, when I was ruminating, but Why is he behaving like this? Why? 'He doesn't want to change.' I know its really obvious, but was like a revelation for me. No, right now, doesn't want to change, so all I can do is nudge within my limits and protect myself. And try to change the dynamic or environment, - am trying to get son to move to where his friends are....

massivestress · 19/08/2026 11:56

Oh that is quite powerful actually. And really whatever the reasons behind doesn’t want to change , are they yours to solve? I might think about this.

in other news we had our wills drafted yesterday and have included a letter of wishes which says we do not want a challenge to an equal distribution should any child be living with us when we die.

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Hadenough2022 · 19/08/2026 12:55

I found out yesterday that they are on half pay for the last 3 months I suspect that it will soon be zero pay. The problem is they have a flat and other bills to pay rent on with their partner who I doubt knows this. I’m afraid I did have words to say about this yesterday and how it was time to face reality as this affects other people. It’s not fair. I understand they are unwell but when you are refusing help and just ignoring issues it’s not sustainable.
im so frustrated at this burying head in the sand approach.

Hadenough2022 · 19/08/2026 12:57

massivestress · 19/08/2026 11:56

Oh that is quite powerful actually. And really whatever the reasons behind doesn’t want to change , are they yours to solve? I might think about this.

in other news we had our wills drafted yesterday and have included a letter of wishes which says we do not want a challenge to an equal distribution should any child be living with us when we die.

Good you got your will sorted at least that’s one worry dealt with.

Bababear987 · 19/08/2026 20:36

You need to stop enabling and make living at home undesirable.
He is at an awkward in-between stage where he isnt sick enough for proper concern from NHS but isnt able to function as an adult. I think in the back of your mind youre hoping the NHS will do something. They wont as he is safe and 'happy' at home with you.
-Change WiFi password / stop WiFi. Other kids in the house can work around it.
-do not cook or prep any food. He will not starve himself to death.
-do not engage with text. Literally block his number.
-if you feel physically threatened phone police. And tell him you will do that if he is raising his voice and being aggressive.
-tell him you want him out. And he needs to think about his next moves. Tell him there is no discussion/debate and you wont be listening to threats or abuse. He can look to see if he would be housed by council etc

Apologies cause I cant remember if you had said but have you spoken to police and asked if he can be removed?

But you really do need to stop enabling this and I dont think you are thinking straight (understandably) but absolutely nothing will change unless you really start being firm. But concrete boundaries in place and actually back them up.

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