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Expectations around adult children visiting

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ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 12:00

I’m curious/looking for your experiences.

DH (38) lives 3 hours from his family (he’s only really close-ish to his mum). His mum has expressed upset that he doesn’t come to visit for multiple nights at a time. I’m a wheelchair user and cannot access her house and staying in a hotel is not an acceptable option for her. She wants her son in her house and she doesn’t care if that excludes me. Am I unreasonable to think this is not the done thing? Married couples visit family together, right? I have always said she’s welcome in our home for as long as she wants. She’s retired with no commitments so could easily stay. DH and I regularly travel and stay with my family 3 hours away and my family just automatically includes DH in any plans.

DH and I are planning on starting a family very soon and I’ve made it quite clear MIL will be expected to visit us and she’s just going to have to deal with that.

Please help me understand if I’m being unreasonable or how you’d approach this!

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AGodawfulsmallaffair · 07/08/2024 13:50

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 12:28

There's no way to make her house accessible even with portable ramps as it's steps down from the pavement and immediately up to the front door. DH has literally just got back from a visit so I'm certainly not stopping him from going. He was near there for work and I actually told him off for going to the pub with his colleagues he sees every day rather than spending the evening with her.
My issue is she thinks he should stay multiple nights at a time and take time off work.
I don't really like the thought of being separated from my future children for multiple days because she won't travel and won't let us stay in a hotel. If we were allowed to stay in a hotel I'd easily occupy myself so she could have them at her house.

Of course you can stay in a hotel, that’s just daft, she can’t physically stop you.

I would equally welcome my son’s partner / want time alone with him, it’s not all or nothing. But your mil sounds like a selfish pain in arse, with no consideration for a wheelchair user.

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 13:52

crimsonlake · 07/08/2024 13:44

TBH as a mum of adult children myself I can understand his mum occasionally wanting to see him on his own, rather than with partner. As for expecting a prolonged visit that is unreasonable.
My elderly mum is constant making me feel guilty for not visiting enough and tbh I don't. I limit the visits to a few hours as I understand the 'talking at you' and mine does this throughout the whole visit, moving from subject to subject without pause. I simply cannot cope with it.
She is also aggrieved if I visit, which includes seeing her for the duration but we are not physically in her house but another family members.

Thank you for your input. I totally agree. I spend time with my mum alone too (my dad recently passed) so I totally get why she wants that and DH is more than happy to accommodate. Your mum definitely sounds like MIL and it just seems utterly exhausting. I'm younger than DH so my mum is only in her 50s so we still have quality time going shopping or girly lunches. Whereas MIL doesn't like doing social things with DH.

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GirlMumGabby · 07/08/2024 13:54

I'm 36 and I stay at my mums regularly on my own (2 hours away). I don't see the problem. My other half can come if he wants but I like to go. I don't do it very often. Maybe every 3-4 months.
She probably misses him. Does she ever get any time with just him?

Mostlycarbon · 07/08/2024 13:55

The issue is his mum is demanding he stays for long periods of time (a week) and take time off work. This is what I think is unreasonable. If she wants this much time, she should come to us.

That's not a reasonable expectation in my opinion.

Sunshineafterthehail · 07/08/2024 13:56

He is a married man. Pandering to sleepovers at his dm's was a mistake in the first place.... Visiting is different. Stomping feet for him to stay is ridiculous..
When you have dc he must put his family (you +dc) first. Seems like his db has got it right don't you think?

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 13:57

Bestyearever2024 · 07/08/2024 13:50

So..... she says no

Shes not STOPPING you and DH from staying in a hotel

You and DH are stopping you from staying in a hotel by choosing not to stay in a hotel

You'll book a trip and see what she does???? What can she do? Be cross? Be unhappy? Have a tantrum? Why would any of that matter?

Just do what works best for you and DH

Well she doesn't live in a nice place so I'd be a bit peeved spending my money on a trip to then feel like I'm just in the way.

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ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 14:01

BeeHappy12 · 07/08/2024 13:47

You sound pretty unreasonable to me OP. My DH regularly visits his parents without me if I'm working, have something on or am just tired or busy. They live 2 hrs away and he'll also bring our children with him. I obviously also regularly visit but if i can't for some reason then of course he'll just go without me. I also visit my parents without my husband sometimes. I think it's pretty harsh on his mum to not see him because you can't go, that's her child, of course see wants to see him.

If you read the posts I have never stopped him visiting. He literally just got back. The issue is she doesn't accept he can't stay for a week at a time because he has a life and a job.

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ABirdsEyeView · 07/08/2024 14:02

She's crazy! It absolutely is not normal to expect adult dc to stay over for several days at a time, in a house their wife can't access. As for expecting him to take time off work to stay at hers and leave you behind, she's absolutely batshit!

I'd be worried if my husband was indulging this fort of demanding behaviour and it would give me pause on the baby front. She'll be a nightmare mil, excluding you at every given opportunity, while expecting your dh to take the kids to hers (away from you) for frequent trips.
I'd say nip this in the bud but I think it's gone beyond that now - you both have to stop agreeing to her every demand. No more time off work to facilitate the crazy and start staying in a hotel for a brief visit. Time she started hearing the word 'no' before you have dc.

BashfulClam · 07/08/2024 14:03

Readandwrite · 07/08/2024 12:17

It does seem a bit odd that you are able to access the homes of your side of the family but not that of your MIL. If ramps are required could discussions be held to see what alterations or facilities might be provided to enable you to join your husband? I do think it is unfair to prevent your husband from visiting his mother at her home all together. If you are just starting out on a family I think you need to consider your 'red lines' very carefully, otherwise I can see divorce in the offing and your children going with their father to visit his mother on a very regular basis and you will be powerless to prevent it. The tone of your OP implies that you will travel to see anyone except your MIL.

Her family will have accessible homes as they have dealt with a disabled family member for however long the OP has needed a wheelchair. Have you ever tried to manoeuvre a wheelchair indoors? What if there isn’t a ground floor bathroom?

Bignanna · 07/08/2024 14:05

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 12:28

There's no way to make her house accessible even with portable ramps as it's steps down from the pavement and immediately up to the front door. DH has literally just got back from a visit so I'm certainly not stopping him from going. He was near there for work and I actually told him off for going to the pub with his colleagues he sees every day rather than spending the evening with her.
My issue is she thinks he should stay multiple nights at a time and take time off work.
I don't really like the thought of being separated from my future children for multiple days because she won't travel and won't let us stay in a hotel. If we were allowed to stay in a hotel I'd easily occupy myself so she could have them at her house.

His mother is being unreasonable, needy and rather selfish. It is much easier for her to stay with you- she must realise that.

CurlewKate · 07/08/2024 14:05

I love my children's partners and we really enjoy them all coming. But I also love it when they come on their own, which they do sometimes. It's just different thing. Not better or worse but different.

Bignanna · 07/08/2024 14:07

GirlMumGabby · 07/08/2024 13:54

I'm 36 and I stay at my mums regularly on my own (2 hours away). I don't see the problem. My other half can come if he wants but I like to go. I don't do it very often. Maybe every 3-4 months.
She probably misses him. Does she ever get any time with just him?

Op says her husband does visit her, but MIL is demanding and wants longer visits, which is unreasonable imo.

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 14:10

BashfulClam · 07/08/2024 14:03

Her family will have accessible homes as they have dealt with a disabled family member for however long the OP has needed a wheelchair. Have you ever tried to manoeuvre a wheelchair indoors? What if there isn’t a ground floor bathroom?

Exactly :) I've been disabled since birth and in a powerchair since age 2. Even distant family have made sure I can access their homes even if they've had to temporarily remove the front door ha! I think area makes a difference too. My family lives more rurally so houses are usually bigger with at least one door that is usually rampable. All DH's family live in 2 up 2 down terraces so if the front door isn't doable I'm not getting in.

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Timeheals · 07/08/2024 14:11

I do go and visit my parents alone for multiple nights but there is nothing that would stop my family ensuring my husband could join in if he wanted. If he was in a wheelchair that may include changing the house if possible (you’ve said not) or hotel and very likely them coming to us or in the middle. Is she nervous of travel? Do you know her reasons for not coming to you? I think you’re right that long term that needs to happen so best address it before children arrive.

Hedgerow2 · 07/08/2024 14:12

If we were allowed to stay in a hotel I'd easily occupy myself so she could have them at her house.

You ARE allowed to stay in a hotel. Just book it and tell her.

I'm probably around the same age as your parents/in-laws. I would never ever want my dcs to feel pressured into visiting or staying longer than they are able to. I want their visits to be something they choose to do because they want to see us - not because it's a duty. If I don't see my dcs for a while I comfort myself with the knowledge that they have busy, fulfilled lives. Equally I want them to think that we have happy, fulfilled lives ourselves and aren't twiddling our thumbs waiting for a duty visit. So I don't believe you are being at all unreasonable. Your MIL is retired and flexible. You and dh have work commitments, physical challenges etc. She needs to fit in with you.

mitogoshi · 07/08/2024 14:13

I would say no, married couples don't always have to visit together, sometimes yes it's nice but I got to my parents on my own sometimes, not fair to drag dp there each time (I also work less hours so nip when hes at work), his mum when she was alive made it cleared she preferred him alone, ditto siblings, us partners were in the way! (We didn't comply all the time but sometimes he went and I did something else)

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 14:17

CurlewKate · 07/08/2024 14:05

I love my children's partners and we really enjoy them all coming. But I also love it when they come on their own, which they do sometimes. It's just different thing. Not better or worse but different.

You sound lovely :) my mum (and my dad when he was alive) absolutely loved DH and would treat him as a key part of the family. I would regularly see my parents alone, they'd visit me, I'd visit them or we'd meet somewhere in the middle. But the invite for DH was always there.

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WonderingWanda · 07/08/2024 14:18

His Mum sounds horrendous and selfish
I cannot imagine my parents or inlaws excluding a spouse in that way. When you have relative with disabilities you work around it. She is being quite selfish in her need to have him in her house to herself for multiple nights without you. Most parents would be happy if you travelled nearby as a couple but stayed in accessible accommodation.

I think you are right go discourage this or
she will stamp her feet in the future about grandchildren. Maybe your dh needs to suggest she moves to a more accessible house now because once you have kids they won't be visiting her without you.

Happyharper · 07/08/2024 14:21

We have pets so we very rarely stay over together. It's fine - we don't need to spend every night together.

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 14:22

Hedgerow2 · 07/08/2024 14:12

If we were allowed to stay in a hotel I'd easily occupy myself so she could have them at her house.

You ARE allowed to stay in a hotel. Just book it and tell her.

I'm probably around the same age as your parents/in-laws. I would never ever want my dcs to feel pressured into visiting or staying longer than they are able to. I want their visits to be something they choose to do because they want to see us - not because it's a duty. If I don't see my dcs for a while I comfort myself with the knowledge that they have busy, fulfilled lives. Equally I want them to think that we have happy, fulfilled lives ourselves and aren't twiddling our thumbs waiting for a duty visit. So I don't believe you are being at all unreasonable. Your MIL is retired and flexible. You and dh have work commitments, physical challenges etc. She needs to fit in with you.

You're right and everyone has helped me decide to just book us a stay in DH's home town. I'll find some things to alone so DH and MIL can have alone time but hopefully we can also spend some time together :)

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Tinybigtanya · 07/08/2024 14:26

TomatoSandwiches · 07/08/2024 12:42

Because she wants her son and her son alone overnight like he's a baby or something.

It's weird.

Not particularly weird for some mothers. Is DH an only child?

BashfulClam · 07/08/2024 14:27

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 14:10

Exactly :) I've been disabled since birth and in a powerchair since age 2. Even distant family have made sure I can access their homes even if they've had to temporarily remove the front door ha! I think area makes a difference too. My family lives more rurally so houses are usually bigger with at least one door that is usually rampable. All DH's family live in 2 up 2 down terraces so if the front door isn't doable I'm not getting in.

Not to mention turning the chair, getting upstairs as a chairlift is not always feasible. If they really wanted you to gone they’d build a ramp over the stairs (the one my mum has is really long so it’s not too steep) to get over the step. She had to remove a wall and get a doorway out in so she could get my dad hoist in and have enough turning circle.

benid · 07/08/2024 14:28

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 12:35

He does :) he literally just got back yesterday. I think my point has got a little confused. I'm absolutely not stopping him visiting. The issue is his mum is demanding he stays for long periods of time (a week) and take time off work. This is what I think is unreasonable. If she wants this much time, she should come to us.

How much annual leave does he get? I would be raging if DH didn't prioritise our family holidays / joint activities for his annual leave, and he'd never have enough to splurge some of it on a solo visit to in-laws.
I think she IBU for expecting him to use leave to stay at hers, never mind the issue about you visiting (and on that point I also think she IBU).

Imisscoffee2021 · 07/08/2024 14:30

My husband visits his family alone sometimes if I can't get time off or have other things to do, we lived about 3 hrs away at the time. There's a different dynamic when a other half is there and I can see why parent might crave a bit of alone time with their adult children, as much as I love in laws and they love me, it's just nice to have some visits just their son again and same for my family.

ThatWildBeaker · 07/08/2024 14:31

Tinybigtanya · 07/08/2024 14:26

Not particularly weird for some mothers. Is DH an only child?

DH has a younger brother who has stayed local but MIL and BIL aren't particularly close. They're a bit closer now BIL has a baby but MIL has made it clear she's not a huge fan of the GF.

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