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Would you leave your baby in a hotel room?

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Mip · 01/02/2009 18:41

I am meant to be going skiing with my husband and his family at the end of February. We are going to a small (500 or so rooms, one lift, one staircase) hotel where we have been many times. Real family feeling, often same guests, staff etc. This time we will have our 7 month old son with us. Last year my sister in law had her 8 month old son with her and she left him in their room while we all ate in the dining room. She had a baby monitor with her and her and her husband went to check every now and again. So, now it's my turn and I really don't like the idea of leaving him in the room (apart from the fact that he'll probably be totally unsettled and I'll spend the whole of dinner in the room calming him down!). It would take only a couple of minutes to get to his room if he started crying so that's not the problem, I'm just scared that a crazed chambermaid would steal him or that there could be a fire or something. I think most guests do it at the hotel. What do you all think? Is it normal to do this or irresponsible?

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Mip · 03/02/2009 22:37

Portandlemon - that was hilarious!!! Well not, but you know what I mean! Poor, poor friend. I just don't understand why women are like that, married women with children. How can they not understand?! As I said in an earlier post, I hope the hotel do a whole cheesy Valentine's Day evening and my husband looks around and sees the only families around are couples with young children, not couples with 30plus married children!

Oranges. Would use the blush emoticon but my Swedish keyboard doesn't have the boxy brackets. So yes, blush blush!

Thank you Abraid, that was good to know. This is a very cosy, family feeling hotel, if not family run.

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DandyLioness · 03/02/2009 23:05

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Mip · 03/02/2009 23:49

Must go to bed, it's an hour later over here and my son will be waking again in three hours, but just had to thank Dandylioness for making an exception to her rule ;-). Criticise away! As for everything you say, I know I know! Was vaguely liking dh today and now I hate him again! Don't know what to say in his defence (well nothing) or mine (sleep deprivation?). Just felt there was no point making him not go. Then I'd be the bad guy. If he can't work it out himself then what can I do? My mother wanted to take me away to somewhere sunny later and my husband wouldn't be able to take the time off now and I said I wouldn't want to go without him somewhere like that. Really want him around for our son's first bucket and spade holiday! Just sad he doesn't feel the same way. It has made me doubt him very much. Just don't really know what to do about it. I've made my feelings known and now I have to either leave him or put up with it (to an extent).

As for the looking good part, meant that more as a joke - that he helped produce this gorgeous (I think!) baby and so I should keep him around for breeding purposes! He doesn't look that good!

And the nappies. Yes. He's a little old fashioned when it comes to looking after the baby (now everyone's getting furious again!) but to be fair he's been so wonderful with everything else. Does most of the food shopping, cooks every other night and always at the weekends, doesn't mind that the flat is a tip. It's absolutely not that I do everything around the house, just more of the baby stuff. Think like many men in the early months he feels a little unsure and excluded. He had to give our son his porridge the other day and he ate the whole bowl (hadn't worked the week before), dh was so proud and happy and now will be happier doing that. I think he'll come into his own when our son is less dependent on me. Hell, why am I defending the man?!

Now, bed!!!

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Mip · 03/02/2009 23:51

Btw, thank you for being so sweet in first sentence (apart from the shake!). It's that lovely Mary P spoonful of sugar thing again...

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TheYearOfTheCat · 04/02/2009 00:07

It would just be so tempting to book another hotel in Oman - with your DH, and saying nothing to your MIL. Then at the airport you can gaily say 'SURPRISE'

You could turn up to her 60th meal together, but then have your DH all to yourself for the rest of the sunfilled week.

Mamazon · 04/02/2009 00:23

it will probably be fine, but i personally wouildn't feel comfortable

negril · 04/02/2009 01:10

It dont sound right that your husband is going away on a sunny holiday with his mum and then take you and his son on a skiing holiday. It sounds like to much money not enough sense if it was me i would hit the roof i would make my feelings clear because its selfish and rediculous. Like you said you want to take your son on a lovely beach holiday try not to make excusses for how you feel. Your mil sounds alright its your husband sort him out and make noise give him evils make his life a nightmare, make him wish he will never make the same mistake again hes with you now not his family.

Mip · 04/02/2009 09:08

Dandylioness... yes, you're probably right! Insult was added to injury this morning when having got to bed at one, then been woken at 4.15 (the baby had miraculously slept through his normal 4am wake up) by a phone call which led to our son waking and needing to be fed and then changed as he did an enormous, spreading everywhere, poo on awakening, and back to bed 5, my husband's alarm went off at 6.30 (would normally get a very important blissful 30min extra) because he had an appointment to get his vaccinations!!!

Thanks Negril! But please, no defence of the mil, having a lovely time letting off steam here ;-).

Theyearofthecat - that is hilarious . Love it! So want to do that! 'Knew you would want the whole family celebrating with you so, ta da, here we are!!!'. Blissful thought. Nearly did that (without tainting the idea with spending an evening with her!) when my mother wanted to take me and my son away to Oman that same week. Her partner (have I said this already? Feels like I have...) is working out there that week anyway. And he knows a 'better' hotel. The hotel my dh etc is going to is the famous, flashy one. My mother's partner knows a more discreet, hip one. And my dh is a sucker for discreet and hip, hates flash. Ah, so many lovely revenge plans! Yours definitely the best though. What could she say?!

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PortAndLemon · 04/02/2009 09:27

Oh, you should so go to Oman...

(although if you need injections they probably aren't technically licensed for breastfeeding women and you need to discuss with doctor/nurse)

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Mip · 04/02/2009 10:05

I know! Hate his sister too... and all that twaddle about her thinking of me like a sister. I would never leave my (other, nice) sil behind. Actually, she is a very tough cookie so none of us would dare! When my mother heard about the trip she called my sil to say 'Hope you don't mind, am thinking of taking Mip and your husband to a luxury resort etc etc'. My sil was happily giggling away, wouldn't have crossed her mind for a second!

As for the parallel Oman trip, my mother was caught up in the heat (very hot!) of the moment. It's actually a really bad/important week for her work-wise so I wouldn't ask her to (though playing the innocent would be just lovely!). Might take her up on the holiday around Easter though. Hadn't wanted to go without dh but he'd only sit reading the FT anyway so what's the loss?

Good point about vaccinations and b'feeding (though I won't tell dh and so let the brainwashed loonies - love it! - off the hook with that one!).

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Amey · 04/02/2009 10:52

Mip,

Don't you think you need to be more like your tough cookie SIL?

I am beginning to feel a bit sorry for your dh (really!!). First, he he cursed with a controlling mum (and dad?) who have failed to allow him to grow into a mature independent man and now he's married a woman who doesn't seem to want to fight for his marriage. As many posters have mentioned, you seem like a really lovely person - but you have got to find some backbone girl!

Do you think your easy-going nature made you an attractive, prospective DIL to your MIL?

If you love your dh and want a happy family life for your dc - you need to take action.

You need to make it clear that dh's behaviour is unreasonable (and not in any sense normal). You 'sanctioning it' is only strengthening his mum's hold over him.

As amusing as they are - all this 'revenge stuff' just as childish as he is.

You have a choice - either you want an adult relationship with your dh (and that requires him to grow up) or you'll end up divorced or worse, a doormat to you MIL for life!!

With your support you might find your dh relieved to finally cut the apron strings and grow up (mine certainly was).

Mip · 04/02/2009 11:54

Amey, thanks very much for your post. But really, I might be sounding pathetic but I'm not!

As for all the revenge stuff I think most people, including myself, have just been having fun with it. I don't believe a healthy marriage is based on revenge or sulking! But of course, as revenges go, I do hope he will end up missing me and feel rather silly without me when he's there.

As for his mil, I always thought I was the one in control, if anyone was. She is a kind, rather silly woman. She is childish and childlike and I certainly have never found myself pushed around by her. Theirs is a big, strong, loud family though who think they're pretty great and should always get their own way which could swallow an in law up (as it has done by brother in law who is quiet and from a quiet, small family), but mine is a big, strong family too, who I think are pretty great! We spend the summer at my mother's holiday cottage over here (but she's not always there of course!), rather than at his family's place. And we spend Christmas with my family rather than his because I live away from mine and we live in the same city as his. I have been adamant about this even though after every Christmas mil calls up dh up saying how dull it is without us (clearly she actually just meant her son!) and how boring her son in law is. You see what I mean about child like?!

I could have caused a real stink about this holiday but didn't see the point in demanding that I come too or that my husband doesn't go. I wouldn't exactly feel welcome. And banning my husband would mean he and his family would resent me. As I said in an earlier post if he and they don't understand then all that happens is that I seem petty or clingy, unable to be without my husband. As I said to him when he said couldn't I go to London, that is not the point, I'm well able to be without him for a week. I'm not sure how to make him really get this without his position changing from being in the wrong (not meaning in a vengeful way here) to him thinking it's wonderful to get away from his nagging wife. If he genuinely understood then I could put my foot down (my brother would understand, but then he's been brought up with different values) but he is his parents' child. He is actually very much the 'man' in the family. He has taken over the family business from his father and his mother and sister etc turn to him for advice about most things. Never seemed weak. Perhaps it's a little selfishness and then different upbringing. He said when she'd first mentioned it he'd thought of the trips his father and his uncles had taken with their parents. I explained it was different if it was the children suggesting it and presumedly discussing it with their spouses. He got that. But there's a limit to what I can do. Demanding he doesn't go, ultimatums etc don't work on him. I think me saying what I think and then letting him go is my only option. I hope it works. If it doesn't then a serious talk/step is needed. But he's certainly not a doormat, he's been the adored older child/sibling and perhaps that's the problem. Contrary to what it seems I don't let myself get pushed around by him. I have confidence in myself and my worth. Am just frankly so baffled by this (as no one I know would do this, and how he and his family just don't get it) that I am non plussed as to what to do and can't help laughing (ish ) as it's so ludicrous.

Apologies for this convoluted, waffling and tedious post. Hard to concentrate with furious baby (still furious from puree force feeding an hour ago!) on my knee! And thank you again (if you're still reading!) for your thoughtful message.

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Mip · 04/02/2009 11:58

Jeez sorry everyone (and my son, no wonder he was grumpy) that was epic. x

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Amey · 04/02/2009 13:37

Of course your MIL is childish. A mature woman would want her dc's to grow into mature independent adults. She would respect their choice to marry and create their own family and would do everything she could to support that marriage and would not undermine it.

Your dh runs the family business, you live in the same city as his family, and they think it is normal to go on family holidays without you and your dh sees nothing wrong with it. Do you not see a pattern here??

I don't mean to be hard on you. You are in the first year of your dc's life. This is a testing time for any woman and for any marriage. You need your dh's support and nurturing. You need bonding time for the three of you - that's what holidays are for. Do you spend a fair junk of your weekends with both extended families?

Maybe you're being too independent. I think you need to have an honest talk with your dh. Tell him that you and dc need him and the three of you need to spend time as a family.

My advice is, let him go on his 'family' holidays but make it very clear that this is a two one off and from now on the majority of his leave should be spent with just you and dc.

My dh is a first and dearly loved son, whom his family rely on. In part, that's what makes him the man I love. However, he still has a right to his own life and his own family, and to achieve that he had to make a space in his life for us. Is there enough space for you and dc in your dh's life??

negril · 06/02/2009 00:42

mip im close to cussing you because you seem like a weak woman and i cant be botherd with you. alright ahh i will patronise you, you cant control your husband you wine about him. Tell him how you feel, i hate my mother because she folowed my dad, i dont talk to her now. As a woman you need think about whats pratical for your children and not about his family. I will tell you the truth i hate my mother because she followed i had no strong female figure in my life i think you are taking the piss, please sort your self out for your childrens sake. im sorry if i seem angry but family issues mash me up and now im hart broken.

milsna · 06/02/2009 00:56

Haven't read the whole thread and see there are more issues then the question

But imo ...NO WAY!!! Why would you leave a 7 month old alone in a hotel room?! ANYTHING Could happen!

Totally ridulous suggestion... Think of poor Maddie

negril · 06/02/2009 01:02

milsna she wants simpathy, she is pathetic as a mother and a human beibg to make appropriate decissions for her children. Dont peny her she wants the ahh, sad woman. I have no respect for her.

negril · 06/02/2009 01:03

sorry mip ahhhhhhhhhh.

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ChippingIn · 06/02/2009 01:12

MIP - at least your DS has a chance of growing up literate I'd just ignore certain posts if I were you!

negril · 06/02/2009 01:26

Im sorry mip im young chippingIn dont understand what its like to walk in my shoes. Im inliterate because of my mother at the end of the day women are teachers after all i came from a middle class family who were literate im only warning you. Because you dont sound happy and i no you want the best for your children. I only expect happyness for you wether im literate or not.

tootiredtothink · 06/02/2009 12:59

MIP - you have come across as a wonderful mum who has maybe made a few choices I wouldn't but then wouldn't life be dull if we were all the same .

ChippingIns post is spot on - ignore negril and the venom that was is her post.

Enjoy your break with your son and parents - are you going to go for the two weeks dh is away?