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QuaintLilacBee · 19/02/2026 11:24

To cut a long story short, my son moved out and went to live with dad, grandma, 2 aunties, aunties boyfriend and a newborn last year. This is not a court ordered arrangement, no social services involvement etc. Child wanted to live with dad and as he has parental responsibility he is allowed by law to keep him and not return him if he doesn’t want to. Dad refuses any contact with me and grandma has taken over - she arranges visits with me, she takes care of him whilst dad works etc. she removed him from the school he was at since pre-school with me, and changed his school.

Recently she took him out of school and is ‘home educating’. After speaking to my child he’s told me that he does no form of education whatsoever. When I text to see him, she often tells me he’s ’still In bed’ at 11 and 12 in the afternoon. He comes to visit me looking exhausted and dishevelled, tells me he’s been awake until 2am on the PlayStation. He spends his entire life on games and has no education. Dad doesn’t bother with him. I weighed him as I noticed he had gained considerable weight since moving there, he now weighs 66kg at just 9 years old, which is morbidly obese. Any time I collect him, he’s got multiple bags of sweets and McDonald’s, so it’s clear why he’s this weight. They have no control over him, let him do anything, stay up all night, eat junk, swear, play violent games.

During the last visit to me, his little brother dropped a teddy behind someone’s fence. My eldest proceeded to kick and punch at the fence to get it open. I told him to stop as he was going to break it and get me into trouble, and to instead knock on the door and ask politely for access. His response was to tell me to ‘shut the f* up’. I asked gran to collect him and told her what he had said and she started laughing.

I rang ss last week as I’m concerned for his weight and education. My mum also rang them as she’s recently seen him herself and is concerned about him in their care. They said they have sent a letter to dad to offer ‘optional support’ and contacted the education board to do a check. Yesterday they called me back after I emailed them further evidence of his junk diet and gaming. She told me it had all been screened and allegedly does not require social services intervention. I am absolutely raging beyond belief.

I can’t keep him myself when he comes here, as he will just run away back to dads, and dad can keep him and not return him once again. He prefers living with dad as there’s no rules or restrictions and he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Im concerned for his health, he is very clearly at high risk for diabetes, heart issues amongst other things. He’s got no future job prospects or chance of any GCSE’s when he does no learning. His attitude and behaviour is uncontrollable. There’s essentially no hope for his future while he’s living there. Police have refused to do a welfare check on the child on 2 ocassions. He does not see a GP, go to school etc so there’s nobody in a safeguarding position to check on him at all. His last school even refused to give information to me about why he was removed, despite me having PR and legal right to his education records. I have been dismissed, refused information on my own child, and treated appallingly throughout this whole saga. He had terrible attendance at the school he went to with me, because gran was having him 3 nights per week at that point and would often keep him off because ‘he didn’t want to go in’. The school had also refused to allow me to collect him and handed him to grandma instead who has no legal rights. My child told me when he first moved out he ‘wasn’t allowed’ to talk to me. I walked round the whole of town with my 3 year old, going to every school near his home to find him. Eventually I found what school he was at, I called them, they confirmed he went there so I walked up to see him. The school had called GRANDMA and had her waiting in reception when I arrived, forced me to have a meeting with her and refused me to see my son, all the while dad has no involvement in any of this. I am utterly appalled at how I’ve been treated by every single agency. My child was never took off me, I have no issues with drink or drugs, never hit him, never emotionally abused him etc, no cause for concerns at my house. Just a strict routine of bed time at 8pm, no fizzy drinks, no junk food, must attend school etc and apparently this is bad parenting on my behalf to the point I’ve been treated like a criminal.

sorry for the long post but I wanted to get this off my chest.

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Portugal1987 · 19/02/2026 13:54

To give up and “let go” in advice of your dad seems ridiculous considering he’s only 9!!!

If he was 18, yes that might mean that he is responsible for his own choices to an extend, but he’s just a kid who is learning how to behave from the people around him- that doesn’t mean he is a bad kid himself.

ShawnaMacallister · 19/02/2026 13:54

stargirl27 · 19/02/2026 13:54

See a legal aid solicitor.

She can't get legal aid

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ShawnaMacallister · 19/02/2026 13:56

stargirl27 · 19/02/2026 13:55

She said she's eligible?

If not, @QuaintLilacBee see if you can get help with fees: https://www.gov.uk/get-help-with-court-fees

She's not, because legal aid isn't available in private family court unless there has been recent, evidenced domestic abuse.

stargirl27 · 19/02/2026 13:57

ShawnaMacallister · 19/02/2026 13:56

She's not, because legal aid isn't available in private family court unless there has been recent, evidenced domestic abuse.

I'm aware, I'm a family solicitor. But OP said she is eligible lol. I haven't means and merits tested her myself!

MikeRafone · 19/02/2026 13:58

I understand that the judge considers what the child says they want to do

not at 9 years old
not if the child is not being educated

socialworkme · 19/02/2026 13:59

QuaintLilacBee · 19/02/2026 12:19

I completely agree with your last paragraph in particular. My 3 year old is well behaved but he’s currently under SEN at nursery and being assessed for autism, so should he receive a diagnosis, I would have more challenges to face. DP is supportive of what I want to do, but does believe that my eldest son is quite bratty and treats me badly. My son was also very close with his grandad - my dad - for many years, then suddenly he had no interest in seeing him anymore. My dad has told me to let go and move on - he’s seen my child’s behaviour first hand and believes it is completely appalling the way he acts towards me. My youngest child has already started to copy his big brother and repeat swear words when he visits - which I of course do not scold the toddler for because it’s not his fault, he doesn’t even understand what he’s saying. My eldest appears to have a big impact on his little brother, and I do worry that he will copy him further and start acting similar. Is this something I want from yet another child? It’s hard to decipher whether I’d be able to mentally withstand caring for him full time, as there’s no way he would happily skip back home to me and just suddenly behave.

This child is 9 and his family are writing him off as a lost cause! Behaviour is communication, what is he telling you?

He has a father who puts no boundaries in and doesn’t prioritise him. He has been taught that his behaviour is ok and acceptable.

He may think this is all ok and fun now but I bet he doesn’t deep down. He will likely feel lost, confused, unloved and abandoned.

I think you need to seriously reflect on how things have got to where they are.

I would also start doing some research and maybe some parenting courses to start to be able to understand and navigate this as you’re right, your son isn’t going to happily skip home and everything will be wonderful.

There’s been far too much harm caused and you’ll all need help managing that.

Look at attachment parenting and trauma, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Get ahead of this and start preparing for the hard work ahead.

Playingvideogames · 19/02/2026 14:01

QuaintLilacBee · 19/02/2026 11:24

To cut a long story short, my son moved out and went to live with dad, grandma, 2 aunties, aunties boyfriend and a newborn last year. This is not a court ordered arrangement, no social services involvement etc. Child wanted to live with dad and as he has parental responsibility he is allowed by law to keep him and not return him if he doesn’t want to. Dad refuses any contact with me and grandma has taken over - she arranges visits with me, she takes care of him whilst dad works etc. she removed him from the school he was at since pre-school with me, and changed his school.

Recently she took him out of school and is ‘home educating’. After speaking to my child he’s told me that he does no form of education whatsoever. When I text to see him, she often tells me he’s ’still In bed’ at 11 and 12 in the afternoon. He comes to visit me looking exhausted and dishevelled, tells me he’s been awake until 2am on the PlayStation. He spends his entire life on games and has no education. Dad doesn’t bother with him. I weighed him as I noticed he had gained considerable weight since moving there, he now weighs 66kg at just 9 years old, which is morbidly obese. Any time I collect him, he’s got multiple bags of sweets and McDonald’s, so it’s clear why he’s this weight. They have no control over him, let him do anything, stay up all night, eat junk, swear, play violent games.

During the last visit to me, his little brother dropped a teddy behind someone’s fence. My eldest proceeded to kick and punch at the fence to get it open. I told him to stop as he was going to break it and get me into trouble, and to instead knock on the door and ask politely for access. His response was to tell me to ‘shut the f* up’. I asked gran to collect him and told her what he had said and she started laughing.

I rang ss last week as I’m concerned for his weight and education. My mum also rang them as she’s recently seen him herself and is concerned about him in their care. They said they have sent a letter to dad to offer ‘optional support’ and contacted the education board to do a check. Yesterday they called me back after I emailed them further evidence of his junk diet and gaming. She told me it had all been screened and allegedly does not require social services intervention. I am absolutely raging beyond belief.

I can’t keep him myself when he comes here, as he will just run away back to dads, and dad can keep him and not return him once again. He prefers living with dad as there’s no rules or restrictions and he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Im concerned for his health, he is very clearly at high risk for diabetes, heart issues amongst other things. He’s got no future job prospects or chance of any GCSE’s when he does no learning. His attitude and behaviour is uncontrollable. There’s essentially no hope for his future while he’s living there. Police have refused to do a welfare check on the child on 2 ocassions. He does not see a GP, go to school etc so there’s nobody in a safeguarding position to check on him at all. His last school even refused to give information to me about why he was removed, despite me having PR and legal right to his education records. I have been dismissed, refused information on my own child, and treated appallingly throughout this whole saga. He had terrible attendance at the school he went to with me, because gran was having him 3 nights per week at that point and would often keep him off because ‘he didn’t want to go in’. The school had also refused to allow me to collect him and handed him to grandma instead who has no legal rights. My child told me when he first moved out he ‘wasn’t allowed’ to talk to me. I walked round the whole of town with my 3 year old, going to every school near his home to find him. Eventually I found what school he was at, I called them, they confirmed he went there so I walked up to see him. The school had called GRANDMA and had her waiting in reception when I arrived, forced me to have a meeting with her and refused me to see my son, all the while dad has no involvement in any of this. I am utterly appalled at how I’ve been treated by every single agency. My child was never took off me, I have no issues with drink or drugs, never hit him, never emotionally abused him etc, no cause for concerns at my house. Just a strict routine of bed time at 8pm, no fizzy drinks, no junk food, must attend school etc and apparently this is bad parenting on my behalf to the point I’ve been treated like a criminal.

sorry for the long post but I wanted to get this off my chest.

How old is he? Why did you passively let him move in with his useless dad? Why do you have yet another child with somebody you’d known for a year at the time while your other child isn’t even in your care?

I think there’s a lot more to this than OP says.

WhattheFudgeareyouonabout · 19/02/2026 14:01

QuaintLilacBee · 19/02/2026 12:45

I rang the school on multiple ocassions, the receptionist was rude and when I said who I was, she said ‘we can’t talk to you sorry’ and hung up the phone.

So what did your solicitor say about that?

dapsnotplimsolls · 19/02/2026 14:02

It appears that what you want is for SS to step in and make his DF and DG parent him properly. This is unlikely to happen. You need to get legal advice - take out a loan if necessary to get an initial appointment with a family law specialist.

ShawnaMacallister · 19/02/2026 14:02

stargirl27 · 19/02/2026 13:57

I'm aware, I'm a family solicitor. But OP said she is eligible lol. I haven't means and merits tested her myself!

Surely it should be obvious? She's been separated from this guy for 6 years? She hasn't mentioned recent abuse from him and seems to know nothing about family court at all? So rather than telling her she can get legal aid maybe point out the criteria for being eligible since you obviously know it!

Playingvideogames · 19/02/2026 14:03

dapsnotplimsolls · 19/02/2026 14:02

It appears that what you want is for SS to step in and make his DF and DG parent him properly. This is unlikely to happen. You need to get legal advice - take out a loan if necessary to get an initial appointment with a family law specialist.

Agree. Who lets their 9 year old live with their other parent (male or female, before anyone starts) and then just lets the contact taper off so they can pursue another relationship and baby?

I’m willing to bet a tenner that’s what’s happened given all the timings. And it’s only now dawned on her that her lack of input and relinquishing him to his useless father has been a big mistake.

stargirl27 · 19/02/2026 14:05

ShawnaMacallister · 19/02/2026 14:02

Surely it should be obvious? She's been separated from this guy for 6 years? She hasn't mentioned recent abuse from him and seems to know nothing about family court at all? So rather than telling her she can get legal aid maybe point out the criteria for being eligible since you obviously know it!

Are you ok? She literally wrote that she is eligible. Why are you attacking me for this?

dapsnotplimsolls · 19/02/2026 14:06

Playingvideogames · 19/02/2026 14:03

Agree. Who lets their 9 year old live with their other parent (male or female, before anyone starts) and then just lets the contact taper off so they can pursue another relationship and baby?

I’m willing to bet a tenner that’s what’s happened given all the timings. And it’s only now dawned on her that her lack of input and relinquishing him to his useless father has been a big mistake.

I think that's overly harsh.

Mumstheword1983 · 19/02/2026 14:06

RudolphTheReindeer · 19/02/2026 12:41

It's also very odd schools and other services won't share info with you if you have parental responsibility but let Nan take over. Have you challenged any of this?

Hi i was going to post the same. What reason is there for this?

Mangelwurzelfortea · 19/02/2026 14:07

If you're honest with yourself, do you actually WANT him back living with you, or would you rather not because it will disrupt the life you've got with your partner and child? If you don't want him back, and you already know SS aren't going to step in, then there's no point coming on here moaning about the situation as you've already made up your mind you're leaving him where he is, without a proper education and with an unhealthy lifestyle. Every suggestion people make - court orders, legal advice - you've said you 'can't' do. It seems like what you actually want is validation for not doing anything. Most mums wouldn't let their ex take over caring for their child if he was verbally abusive to you and a shit dad anyway.

WhattheFudgeareyouonabout · 19/02/2026 14:07

QuaintLilacBee · 19/02/2026 13:12

there isn’t an existing court order in place. Dad has PR and is within every right to withhold the child. I contacted police when he first took him, they told me they cannot get involved as dad has PR and is legally allowed to keep him.

Then your next port of call should have been to seek legal advice IMMEDIATELY .

Playingvideogames · 19/02/2026 14:08

dapsnotplimsolls · 19/02/2026 14:06

I think that's overly harsh.

Sorry if it sounds that way but it seems OP was happy to hand her kid over to their useless other parent for an easier life with their new family. I’m very cynical about situations like this as I’ve seen them play out many times. Rather than demanding SS get involved, maybe parent your own child

stargirl27 · 19/02/2026 14:10

Playingvideogames · 19/02/2026 14:08

Sorry if it sounds that way but it seems OP was happy to hand her kid over to their useless other parent for an easier life with their new family. I’m very cynical about situations like this as I’ve seen them play out many times. Rather than demanding SS get involved, maybe parent your own child

Sadly agree, I find it a little strange that OP just accepted her child dictating where he would live without even taking legal advice.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 19/02/2026 14:11

Playingvideogames · 19/02/2026 14:08

Sorry if it sounds that way but it seems OP was happy to hand her kid over to their useless other parent for an easier life with their new family. I’m very cynical about situations like this as I’ve seen them play out many times. Rather than demanding SS get involved, maybe parent your own child

I agree with you. The OP made a decision to let him go to prioritise the new man and child. She doesn't want him back living with her, so what's the point of this thread? His dad and gran probably wouldn't parent any differently even if SS did tell them to.

Etoile41 · 19/02/2026 14:11

QuaintLilacBee · 19/02/2026 12:47

For a child that’s stated he doesn’t want to live here? For every agency I’ve spoken to has treated me terribly and once they’ve spoken to his grandma they are on her side? She talks her way out of everything. Besides the point her sisters are lawyers so she’s already got an advantage. They are a large close knit family who will stop at nothing to get what they want.

Whilst the court will take your son's wished, they will also be know that children don't always know what is best for them. That is why parents have a responsibility to make the right choices for thier children and bring them up to be able to make right choices for themselves in due course.

So despite the fact that your son wants to live with his dad and thier family, if you truly believe that he needs better (it certainly seems that he does) and you can provide that, as a mother you should fight tooth and nail to get him back with you.

The court will make a decision that is in thr best interests of the child, taking into account his wishes and ss/ cafcas report.

Foundress · 19/02/2026 14:11

Poor child totally failed by all the adults in his life.

Muffinmam · 19/02/2026 14:14

You will need to take your ex to court.

Social Services are doing nothing.

Playingvideogames · 19/02/2026 14:16

Muffinmam · 19/02/2026 14:14

You will need to take your ex to court.

Social Services are doing nothing.

Because the child is in the care of his parent, who his other parent has relinquished him to. What more is there to be said/done? Had OP kept a modicum of responsibility over her son’s life, she would be in a v different position to now. You can’t free yourself from all responsibility over your child yet dip in and out to make sure they’re being raised how you want. Thats the remit of deadbeat dads, usually.

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