Human rights health visitor

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I have seen it here before but the posts are old. Before my baby was born i told my midwife (UK) that i did not want any visits at home. I just like my privacy and want to be able to decide who enters my home. They offer visits as a service so i just decided to not let them in. I was happy to go for appointments.

Then in the hospital when the baby was born, they told me "someone was going to come into my house even if i do not want that". I kept saying no. They kept saying they just wanted to see where the baby would sleep etc. i said no. Then the midwifes came to the door and i told them i did not want them in my house. So they reported me to social services. Social services called me and threatened with official investigation if i do not let the midwifes and later health visitor in my house. Also for the one year visit.

I texted them many times i did not want. I also told them in person. So i have a lot of proof. Ok long story short i let them in.because they threatened with social services investigation = trying to take your baby. I had to let them in, they said everything was fine, and closed the case. But instead of bonding with my baby i was stressed that they were trying to take her away.

So. It is ten months ago so the one year visit is coming and I DO NOT WANT THEM IN MY HOUSE. So i decided to go after them. And yes, it is human rights violation. It is not normal in civilised countries that someone comes to your house without your consent and without a warrant. If you do not let them in they basically threaten to take your baby.

I am not looking for the comments that they are just helping etc. I am not interested in that 😉. What i am looking for here is other moms who went after them. I am researching where to complain. I am also making a list of solicitors who would help me. And maybe some group court case? I will make complaint to NHS. I believe we only have one year for this kind of thing so only people who experienced this last year. Or if you went through going to court and have a good no win no fee lawyer (London or Kent). They are violating human rights you everyone so no, i will not let it go.

Not everyone who has a different opinion from you is a conspiracy theorist.

Medication is never needed. A change of lifestyle is.

And nope. The HV is concerned only because she is a busy body and wants to weigh my twins and got offended when I said I can do it myself and brought my own scales. As already stated. The social worker does not think I need her. Neither does the MW who signed us or nor the hospital who also signed us off.

This is getting boring now.

Have a nice evening.

They aren't really though sweetheart. She comes every 2 weeks for 5 minutes... I wouldn't call it protection especially as she only talks about herself and doesn't even engage with my children...

No wonder you called yourself stupid boy.

Someone else who's offended and it would be a boy wouldn't it.

Enjoy your evening

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I am not a boy and neither am I stupid. It's just a phrase from a TV series called Dad's Army. I take it you are not an actual King?

So if one of your children became seriously ill with something like bronchitis, sepsis, meningitis or cancer are you telling me that you would refuse all medical intervention in the belief that they could be cured by nutrition and exercise alone?

So I was barking up the right tree when I mentioned Kate Shemirani wasn't I? You know, her with the dead daughter who refused chemo. I notice you sidestepped the mention of her, but I am guessing you are a superfan.

You’ve got the patience of a ruddy saint @StupidBoy

I don’t think I’ve ever called someone a conspiracy theorist, let alone “everyone who disagrees with me”. I didn’t actually call you one. But what you’re pedalling is irrational and devoid of scientific fact and, if followed through in terms of your medical care or the care of those you are responsible for, it’s incredibly dangerous. The fact you can’t see that danger is absolutely the stuff of conspiracy theory. But you can lead a horse to water…

My friends use private gps and private hospitals and have never had health visitors just those midwife which they were happy with. You can sign off from health visitor.

Social won't take baby away they will just double check all is ok. If you WERE a neglectful baby abuser with a paedo drug addict bully living with you you'd also not let the health visitor in- how would they know- they need to err on the safety side.

My ex has my baby one night a week no professional has ever expected his home and I asked them to!! They told me no I was main carer they just work with me and I have to pass on the knowledge to my coparent. So I had to go to his house myself.

Op can ensure her baby has a safe home environment without letting a specific professional in, that no one who has a private birth has come in.

Unfortunately I wouldn't have ever been successful in my job if I had your way of thinking. My clients paid me for what I offered in terms of knowledge.

It's also incredibly dangerous to offer medication when it's not needed when again a change in lifestyle is.

Choose your path or journey, not everyone can take medication everyone can have good exercise routines and good nutrition.

Education is the key.

Sweet dreams 😴

Science isn't fact BTW.

The human body doesn't work the same for everyone.

You absolutely can lead the horse to water... but you can't make the horse drink it... even the horse knows 🙃

Good night sweetheart

I kind of think science is fact….

Crikey. There are some bonkers views on here.
Diet and exercise wouldn't have removed DH's cancer, which wasn't caused by his lifestyle.

Advances in medical science saved DD's life when she was a baby. No amount of breast milk would have saved her. She would have died without surgery.

Both DH and DD have scientific backgrounds. DD is currently qualifying to be a medical professional.

I vote for peer reviewed scientific evidence over unsubstantiated opinion.

Just clean your house one time and let them in.

It's not a human rights issue FFS

Correct my clients wouldn't come to me if they had sepsis they'd mostly likely sadly end up dead. But they do come to me for, diabetes, heart and circulation problems, being overweight and underweight, when they are pregnant just to state a number.

Not an anti vaxxer - I don't care. I bet you're anti those who choose not to vaccinate even though not everyone can.

Life expectancy wasn't so low. Visit some graveyards and you will see a mixture just as there is now. Some people lived to 100 and some people didn't. That's life.

Lots of women still die during childbirth, unfortunately that will also always happen. It hasn't stopped has it. So that tells you medical advances hasn't really changed anything. Symptoms are masked. Nutrition doesn't mask anything BTW. Medication during and after pregnancy is dangerous and unless you've been in the situation you can argue til you're blue in the face. There's two sides to the story and if as I state Medication during pregnancy was safe they'd be no deaths. And every woman would have medical intervention since no woman wants herself or baby dying...

They wear gloves... I freebirthed and my baby is healthy and happy. But I agree in a hospital which potentially is full of germs and deaths PPE is needed. However if you have a homebirth and freebirthed then the germs in your household will be the germs your baby is used to and if you breastfeed. Kissing your baby will produce the antibodies a baby needs to prevent infections.

Food is cheap, you can grow it yourself. You can also forrage. Depending on seasons the world grows lots of things you can eat for free. Just food is expensive because it costs you your health in the long term and if you have to pay for prescription it's expensive or even time out of work.
Costs pennies and Personal Trainer would depend on who you use. Some of my clients paid £5 some of them £50. I'm not sure why you're telling me about my job. It is seen as a luxury but the NHS isn't. That's because we live in a brainwashed society and a Personal Trainer takes away from the NHS. The NHS employs lots of people whereas Personal Trainers usually work autonomously.

That means you're not reading my post. As stated my social worker has said we do not meet the threshold and do not need a social worker. She also visited the other day for 5 minutes and doesn't communicate with the children. Also as stated it's the health visitor taking offence and I've had to put in a complaint asking for a new one. Guess what a new one hasn't communicated.

Is reading and understanding/comprehension not your strong point?

My kids are fed healthy and exercise on a daily. My house is a drug free household.
They are warm and educated.

This is funny now. So much hate.

Touch grass, meditate and ill pray for you 🙏🏻

Isn't it?

As stated my social worker has said we do not meet the threshold and do not need a social worker.

And yet it seems you have one. So she hasn't seen fit to sign you off and close the case just yet. She's telling you what you want to hear to keep you compliant and cooperative while quietly noting and feeding back to her superiors that you are quite bonkers and a bit of a worry.

You know you're utterly wrong here, don't you? Statistics speak for themselves. Life expectancy is longer due to modern medicine. Less women and babies die during pregnancy and birth due to modern medicine. Of course people still die, but you cannot say 'So that tells you medical advances hasn't really changed anything', when the facts and figures speak for themselves. Maternal, neonatal and child morbidity and mortality has drastically decreased in the last hundred years due to modern medicine. You've said a lot of rubbish on this thread but, kindly, stop with the blatant lies.

How is medication during and after pregnancy unsafe? Say that to the countless women saved by medication suffering from pre eclampsia, just to name one example.
Not everyone on this earth can be saved and that is part of life. What you're saying is just because some people die we shouldn't bother with any medicine and let millions more die, is it? How do you figure that one?

The fact you think most people with sepsis will end up dead (whilst very serious it’s c.25-30% mortality in the U.K. and a significant proportion of those would have been avoidable either earlier treatment and intervention. Those who recover, such as my sister in law, do so through IV fluids and antibiotics, not exercise and leafy greens) is evidence of the weakness of your understanding of the healthcare world, the fact you can’t back up your assertion that a PT can solve all the ills medical care can and of your position that your training is one of, or equivalent to, a healthcare professional.

The more you post, the more obvious this is.