Human rights health visitor

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I have seen it here before but the posts are old. Before my baby was born i told my midwife (UK) that i did not want any visits at home. I just like my privacy and want to be able to decide who enters my home. They offer visits as a service so i just decided to not let them in. I was happy to go for appointments.

Then in the hospital when the baby was born, they told me "someone was going to come into my house even if i do not want that". I kept saying no. They kept saying they just wanted to see where the baby would sleep etc. i said no. Then the midwifes came to the door and i told them i did not want them in my house. So they reported me to social services. Social services called me and threatened with official investigation if i do not let the midwifes and later health visitor in my house. Also for the one year visit.

I texted them many times i did not want. I also told them in person. So i have a lot of proof. Ok long story short i let them in.because they threatened with social services investigation = trying to take your baby. I had to let them in, they said everything was fine, and closed the case. But instead of bonding with my baby i was stressed that they were trying to take her away.

So. It is ten months ago so the one year visit is coming and I DO NOT WANT THEM IN MY HOUSE. So i decided to go after them. And yes, it is human rights violation. It is not normal in civilised countries that someone comes to your house without your consent and without a warrant. If you do not let them in they basically threaten to take your baby.

I am not looking for the comments that they are just helping etc. I am not interested in that 😉. What i am looking for here is other moms who went after them. I am researching where to complain. I am also making a list of solicitors who would help me. And maybe some group court case? I will make complaint to NHS. I believe we only have one year for this kind of thing so only people who experienced this last year. Or if you went through going to court and have a good no win no fee lawyer (London or Kent). They are violating human rights you everyone so no, i will not let it go.

I'm literally a qualified health professional and I've raised 5 children now, whom have NEVER received any hospital care
I'm glad you can be presumpticious and attempted to sound clever

Oh what delicious irony.

I would be very very wary of replying to some of the posters on this thread.

The BLOOD TEST stated no antibiotics actually. The other health observations also didn't conclude and infection which is what they use antibiotics for.

No antibiotics were given after this so therefore my qualifications means something.

I'm also a ex Midwife, just don't practice it anymore. You don't need a DR to tell you you need antibiotics by the way. DRS prescribe them but a patient USUALLY goes to see a DR because they know they have am infection... usually the symptoms are a telltale. I wouldn't given chemotherapy based on no results.

Thank you for the compliment, I am indeed hilarious 😂

It was called a joke. Don't put your name as stupid boy and expect anyone to take you seriously...

Clearly. Since they dropped it and told the social worker they don't require any further care...

I'll assume you don't have any children.

Because my Health visitor lies and belittles me.
She wrote it all down and then denied everything even though it was written down. So I had to forward it on.
I understand new mums who want the help. But when you've had 5 children you no longer need someone qualified or not. She's has 2 children I have 5 I think the fact 5 children are thriving means I am "qualified" enough to know what I'm doing as a Mother. But as I say new mums sure, or anyone who feels they need one. However I don't and clearly OP didn't either.

Preterm tiny babies often receive prophylactic antibiotics based on clinical judgement, as the risk of waiting for cultures is greater than the risk of short term antibiotic use that can then be discontinued once cultures are available. Waiting on blood and other cultures could mean that babies die in the interim.
Breast milk is not medicine. Breastmilk is fantastic, but not medicine.

@King913 well I had no issues with my HV team.
Sorry you had one that lied.
I just don't understand the massive hoo ha some people seem to make over what is usually just a 20 minute visit (it's all such an invasion of their privacy blah blah).
Oh well. Different experiences and opinions and all that.

I agree.

I had a great health visitor. DD had some serious health issues that meant we were housebound for the first year and I couldn't take her to clinic. My HV had experience of DD's issue and was very understaanding and gave me some fantastic advice (which worked) when she just woudn't eat.

I couldn't have had a better health visitor.

I'm guessing you don't know what a Personal Trainer is then? Well you can't do. What is the purpose of a Personal Trainer?

This. You sound unhinged. There are far more important things to worry about.

The fact that my comment has gone right over your head and you have no idea what I am referring to makes it even funnier.

What I don't understand is the assumption that the act of having a child makes you an expert on everything to do with child health and childcare.
It's extreme arrogance backed up by social media echo chambers and influencers.
We're all experts on everything now (thanks to Google). Except we're not.

Why do you think she did that then?
What's in it for her?
Questions to ponder before you explode in a puff of self-righteous indignation

Oh, you're a qualified midwife now are you? 😂It's just so weird that you didn't mention that before, but somehow thought your qualifications as a personal trainer were worth mentioning when questioning the decisions of both the HCPs in a neo-natal ward and your HV. Honestly, give it up now. You're just embarrassing yourself.

You know there are SEVERAL different health professional. You have natural medicine aswel as big pharma.

As a Personal Trainer clearly exercise is my go to for health, which would suggest alternative medicine such as nutrition is what I use.

Therefore I did understand exactly what you had to say. The irony of your name continues...

To be honest. My Social worker also doesn't know. Maybe it's because she's like you and think noone else can do a job and only she can? Maybe she feels like she needs to prove something as I Opted out of the service and then she stated that I didnt know how to weigh babies or use the red book until I told her I did.

Personal Trainer is literally a health professional for adults. We know the actual ways to keep one healthy without the need for extra chemicals and pills. Through nutrition.

And actually I'll continue to take up space. Human rights act and that...

You don't have to sit and read my comments or even reply.

Enjoy your evening.

Do you need my WHOLE LIFE STORY?

This is becoming somewhat stalkerish. I dont need to mention anything.

And yes embarrassing for yourself. You're taking on your chosen username completely here!

Go to sleep, your brains tired.

I don’t know any definition of health care professional that would include a personal trainer and never heard a personal trainer call themself one. Certainly not the CQC (https://www.cqc.org.uk/guidance-regulation/providers/registration/scope-registration/glossary-terms). Obviously many people see a personal trainer for their health in a broad sense but that’s not the same as being a qualified and regulated professional within health care. Calling yourself one (or a “health professional” to try to imply the same) is misleading if based on a personal training qualification. Your enthusiasm about the benefits of your work as a PT is great but doesn’t change this.

It's a different setting. I have to be insured etc still and we have our own CQC. I am as powerful if not more powerful than the hospital. My job literally prevents illness for the long term. The NHS doesn't prevent illness. My job also teaches people have to care for themselves again the NHS doesn't do that. There's lots of aspect to my job. Unfortunately if you've never had the luxury of having a Personal Trainer you wouldn't no the effects and outcome. We are a 247 365 just as the NHS however and we also have several bands as you'd call it. We just belong in a different setting. All Personal Trainers I know call themselves health professionals as that is quite literally what we are. We are just mainly self employed and private and don't work for the system as such. I hope this helps.

I have used a personal trainer before, for a number of years, and I know a few personally too. What they do is great and I appreciated their input.

But I stand by what I said, it wasn’t because I don’t understand what you do. What personal trainers and HCPs do are not two sides of a coin, it is apples and oranges. That is not to do down your job but it’s a false equivalence. Sorry.

You're incorrect I have taken many clients from the NHS and also many of my clients have not needed big pharma pills... in old school traditional life before all of this existed all we needed was exercise and nutrition.

Its only now.

Medication involves the whole of your body it doesn't target one particular cell there will always be a negative side effect along the journey. However there is no cons to exercise and good nutrition.

Exercise and nutrition keeps you healthy, hospitals and the NHS never will.

Well exactly, there's nothing in it for her. In fact it's giving her a lot more work to go through the rigmarole of all of this than it would be to just carry out a few visits and document that everything's fine. Child protection issues no doubt create a mountain of paperwork, referrals and liaising with other professionals ie social work. An already overworked HV with no doubt an already huge caseload wouldn't make extra work for themselves for no reason surely?

Of course diet and exercise can keep you healthy. It can even prevent many illnesses. But it is dangerous to promote the idea that it solves everything or “all we needed in the past was a healthy lifestyle!”. Plenty cannot be solved with diet and exercise, when we didn’t have the medical advances and modern medicine we didn’t just solve everthing with holistically with a “healthy lifestyle”, people died and suffered with plenty that we can now cure with medicine. To say otherwise and suggest exercise and diet is the only thing you need is flat out dangerous and the stuff of conspiracy theory.

I suspect this world view is the reason concerns were raised about your engagement with the HV.

Oh my God. No wonder social services is keeping an eye on your babies.