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manywanderings · 04/03/2025 01:58

So so upset and annoyed with our teenage son. He didn't come home for a planned birthday celebration. He has a girlfriend. Fine. They spent all week-end together doing birthday things. As his birthday is a midweek night we said - we'll do your birthday and presents the night before as he has to be up very early midweek. This was agreed days ago. Both he and gf saw me making a birthday cake yesterday. He told OH this morning he was coming straight home and would be early.

We waited and waited. Eventually OH texted him and he said he was at gf's house and not coming back till later. As suspected he had his birthday celebration there - a meal and presents. I was fuming. But calmed down and we decided to carry on as if nothing had happened so as not to spoil his birthday. Thought we could still have cake when he got back and him have his presents.

When he got back he looked half dead and exhausted and didn't smile and was quite rude and dismissive. Didn't want cake. At that point I said - you saw me making it yesterday and you knew we were doing your birthday tonight. He could have brought gf with him!

He said sorry. I bit my lip and said we had decided we could go for a meal tomorrow night instead. He sounded very evasive about that too!

I am absolutely spitting and fuming at his attitude. We've just paid for something very expensive for his birthday and he can't even be bothered to celebrate with us even a little bit.

I am trying to keep my mouth shut until after his birthday rahter than spoil it (although it's already spoiled for us). But I don't know who to be angry with. Him? His gf? His gf's parents? Clearly he was hijacked at some point today and asked to go over - maybe mentioning they had presents for him.

I guess he didn't text and tell us in case we were annoyed. Maybe he told gf he had said he was coming home tonight as we had plans and she had a hissy fit and he felt in the middle. I don't know. But we had a similar issue last year where her family organised something without consulting us and we were furious with him then as it was so disrespectful. (The thing they organised was going to cost us a lot of money! So we should have been consulted).

We get no communication from them. They were sharing the driving a few times but stopped, so OH picks them up and drops them off both ways every time.

Going forwards I am going to ask for the gf's Mother's phone number and have some communication. Although I think that might go wrong as well considering they seem to treat him as if he doesn't have any family.

There is some history. They broke up last year - mainly over the fact that everything was on her terms. They got back together before we realised and we just accepted it. But everything is still on her terms. She decides when to see him at short notice and he is scared she will break up with him again if he doesn;t just jump. It's not great. And it's always very short notice. He can never plan anything.

As for why he looked half dead and exhausted, I am trying to guess - just had sex? Been drinking? Feeling caught in the middle if she made a fuss that he was coming home that night (as I say he could have brought her with him).

I suppose she'll want him to go there again instead of a meal with us. I suggested he invite her and he said no. It is clearly all very serious now but we are still his family! I feel annoyed with her Mother for hijacking our birthday celebration! Feeding him and giving him presents. Maybe she didn't know he was going to be here tonight. Maybe they just are disrespectful people.

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FlatWhite5 · 04/03/2025 03:27

Going forwards I am going to ask for the gf's Mother's phone number and have some communication. Although I think that might go wrong as well considering they seem to treat him as if he doesn't have any family.

If you’re looking to drive your son away even further then this is one sure fire way of doing it. Absolute madness - have you ever heard of boundaries and letting teenage DC have some independence? If I was his girlfriend’s mother I’d laugh in your face at these bonkers allegations and would swiftly be blocking your number. How dare a teenage boy spend time at his girlfriend’s house🤣 Frankly OP you sound way over the top - no wonder he wants to escape the house! I’d never dream of trying to police my DD’s birthday and would much rather see her out enjoying herself with friends than sat at home ‘celebrating’ over a cake with us. Why shouldn’t your DS be allowed to spend his birthday the way he wants it?

manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:30

Agree. But his birthday is the day after. He did a lot of birthday celebrations at the week-end as well. We had agreed to do something last night, he said he was coming home - and he didn't. He did something else.

I'm sorry but if he's going to be so ungrateful why the hell should we spend a fortune on driving lessons?! It is simply communication - you don't double book yourself. You don't just not turn up and you don't cancel on people without an apology or explanation.

If he can't learn that, he's going to have problems.

We don't interfere with his life - he spends a lot of time over at gf's. She occasionally comes here. We made one arrangement for one night. And he can't even do that.

Aside from being upset and annoyed I feel really sad. It's like we're no longer his family - he has adopted a new family - and we just pay for everything.

I'm also upset because he knew I had made a huge effort - I've had some health issues recently. I've always done him a birthday cake and it was rejected - he'd had too much fun at their house.

There is room in his life to either have two separate celebrations, on agreed days, or share two celebrations, with his gf here or whatever.

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manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:37

Aside from that he's not doing any studying - over there all the time. Getting well behind with his studies and wanting us to pay for private tutoring because he's getting such bad grades, which is costing a fortune. I've had enough.

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POTC · 04/03/2025 03:38

I can see why he chose to adopt a new family! Did it not occur to you that maybe he didn't want all the fuss from you? Maybe he doesn't want a meal out that you just informed him was happening rather than asking? Maybe he doesn't want you paying for things only to use it as a stick to beat him with?
I wouldn't be surprised if the gf's family are much more chilled out!

manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:39

Well perhaps they can pay for everything then! He was quite happy to spend this evening doing his birthday for most of the last week. It was agreed. He had a personality change overnight and came back bolchy and unpleasant very late.

It really hurt. And it isn't a fuss. It's just enough time to eat together, have cake and have presents.

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FlatWhite5 · 04/03/2025 03:40

manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:39

Well perhaps they can pay for everything then! He was quite happy to spend this evening doing his birthday for most of the last week. It was agreed. He had a personality change overnight and came back bolchy and unpleasant very late.

It really hurt. And it isn't a fuss. It's just enough time to eat together, have cake and have presents.

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I really, really understand why he’s distancing himself. Using expenses against him is the height of toxic parenting

BarbedButterfly · 04/03/2025 03:41

Gently it is his birthday and up to him how he spends it and maybe he doesn't want a meal or fuss. He should have used his words of course but teens are known for being self absorbed. How old is he?

manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:42

Thank you for judging me. I am letting off steam about one thing - you know nothing about me or our relationship or home life. That is insulting, We hardly ever see him! We have great relationships - and suddenly this. If anything I think we've been too soft. He can get a job and pay for things himself. I've had enough.

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manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:43

FlatWhite5 · 04/03/2025 03:40

I really, really understand why he’s distancing himself. Using expenses against him is the height of toxic parenting

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Really? Explain yourself? Do you have a family life?

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manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:45

FlatWhite5 · 04/03/2025 03:40

I really, really understand why he’s distancing himself. Using expenses against him is the height of toxic parenting

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For xxx';s sake - you are accusing me of using expenses against him! I have done no such thing. I am letting off steam for him being so ungrateful.

How dare you accuse me of toxic parenting. Please don't reply again. You are missing the point. And I am very upset!

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manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:45

BarbedButterfly · 04/03/2025 03:41

Gently it is his birthday and up to him how he spends it and maybe he doesn't want a meal or fuss. He should have used his words of course but teens are known for being self absorbed. How old is he?

17 Yesterday he was lovely. Today he broke my heart,

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FlatWhite5 · 04/03/2025 03:46

manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:43

Really? Explain yourself? Do you have a family life?

Explain what? I have a perfectly happy, independent 20yo DD. Would never and have never forced her to stay in the house for a celebration she doesn’t want, nor do I use material items and expenses against her - that’s a form of emotional blackmail and incredibly unhealthy. You need to read your own words back to yourself. It really doesn’t need a lot of explanation as to why your DS is distant.

manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:48

If he had said he didn't want to be home last night or do anything for his birthday, that would have been fine. I didn't expect him back too early. But he told us he was coming back early so we could do his birthday. And then just xxxered off!

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manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:49

FlatWhite5 · 04/03/2025 03:27

Going forwards I am going to ask for the gf's Mother's phone number and have some communication. Although I think that might go wrong as well considering they seem to treat him as if he doesn't have any family.

If you’re looking to drive your son away even further then this is one sure fire way of doing it. Absolute madness - have you ever heard of boundaries and letting teenage DC have some independence? If I was his girlfriend’s mother I’d laugh in your face at these bonkers allegations and would swiftly be blocking your number. How dare a teenage boy spend time at his girlfriend’s house🤣 Frankly OP you sound way over the top - no wonder he wants to escape the house! I’d never dream of trying to police my DD’s birthday and would much rather see her out enjoying herself with friends than sat at home ‘celebrating’ over a cake with us. Why shouldn’t your DS be allowed to spend his birthday the way he wants it?

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What "allegations"?! Don't exaggerate.

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manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:50

Last year we had a meal out with him and his gf was invited. What is wrong with that? They both have families.

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FlatWhite5 · 04/03/2025 03:53

manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:49

What "allegations"?! Don't exaggerate.

I feel annoyed with her Mother for hijacking our birthday celebration! Feeding him and giving him presents. Maybe she didn't know he was going to be here tonight. Maybe they just are disrespectful people

Again OP, I suggest you read your own post. Accusing her of ‘hijacking’ your DS’ birthday 🤣 How dare she feed him and give him presents..!

manywanderings · 04/03/2025 03:56

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BobbyDazzler11 · 04/03/2025 03:59

Take a breathe op.
Acting this way will only push him further over to their house.

I don't think he gf/parents are likely at fault either. He likely didn't want this and did not communicate it (like a lot of teens)
It's hard but you might need to take a step back and he will come back eventually. He's just young and smitten.

But these rants will just make it worse.

manywanderings · 04/03/2025 04:01

It's not even about whether he wanted to spend some time with us the night before his birthday (I already assumed he'd want to spend his birthday night with his girlfriend). It's about him messing us about.

We both sat there for hours waiting. OH eventually contacted him and he wanted a lift back much later. No apology. We ate on our own having got everything ready. It was just damned rude. I want him to grow up being respectful and not letting people down when he's said he will do something. Ok so he's a teenager but he still needs to be respectful. He was looking forward to it this morning.

I suppose this is the pain I am going to have to get used to. Us sitting here on our own while he lives his life somewhere else. It must be hard when they leave home permanently but you hope they would still see you and keep in contact. It feels like we're losing him.

And don't start blaming me again or being patronising please.

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manywanderings · 04/03/2025 04:05

And when I said I should exchange phone numbers with her Mother - well if it's that serious, shouldn't parents at least meet? Or mention the odd thing. Or invite each other to the odd thing? Or at least get acquainted?

I know it;s their relationship but they still have parents

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FlatWhite5 · 04/03/2025 04:05

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Again, I’m only repeating your own words back to you. Upthread you mentioned that you were going to stop paying for driving lessons as he was ungrateful over a birthday cake and didn’t fancy spending the evening with you. Emotional blackmail.

FlatWhite5 · 04/03/2025 04:07

I suppose this is the pain I am going to have to get used to. Us sitting here on our own while he lives his life somewhere else. It must be hard when they leave home permanently but you hope they would still see you and keep in contact. It feels like we're losing him.

I fear this is called growing up. It would be concerning at this stage if he didn’t have his own life, it’s equally worrying that you seem to have an issue with giving him independence. What do you expect him to do? Be your little boy and live with you rent free forever?

Thinkingcalmthoughts · 04/03/2025 04:14

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manywanderings · 04/03/2025 04:20

BobbyDazzler11 · 04/03/2025 03:59

Take a breathe op.
Acting this way will only push him further over to their house.

I don't think he gf/parents are likely at fault either. He likely didn't want this and did not communicate it (like a lot of teens)
It's hard but you might need to take a step back and he will come back eventually. He's just young and smitten.

But these rants will just make it worse.

I am not acting this way with him! If you read back, I bit my lip. I am acting this way on here because I'm letting it out. I don't know why people don't understand that! It's letting off steam and upset and frustration and hurt.

He just changed his mind when his gf asked him to go over.

Why can;t he have two family meals? Or a joint one? My other concern is he does no work, he's thinking with his pants right now! And he is way behind at college.

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Member869894 · 04/03/2025 04:30

Hello op. Difficult though it is just let this go. He's 17 and smitten and won't be interested in his parents. This will pass. And don't even think of getting the mother's number!!