Arrived Dec/jan 23/24 Part 1

[Nclktnntt]

New thread following our Due December 2023 Part 6 thread. I've tagged everyone I can think of, feel free to tag others ☺️

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@Nclktnntt thats great, yea best time to let them run around with no bottoms is summer, just see how it goes, my little one likes to sit inside her potty haha close enough i guess im not gonna attempt to potty train yet but if she wants to have a go on her own then thats great xx

And not long after i posted this we had a wee in the potty! Lol xx

@Avie29 oh that's amazing! My LO has asked to sit on the toilet a couple times since I wrote that and this morning wanted to again and actually did wee on it today. I don't know if he actually clocked what he did or not. He wiped and flushed all the same lol.

@Nclktnntt thats brilliant, gosh they grow up so so fast, how is your little one coming along speech wise? My little lady doesn’t really talk yet, still on the leading by the hand and pointing, she is great at making animal sounds though 😂 just wont attempt to say the animal names except kitty, she appears to know colours, will point to them but wont say them either except blue xx

@Avie29 they really are! Speech wise he's doing ok, i think, I don't know how many words he has now (never really counted) but he's currently saying everything he is doing or about to do or wants you to do, like sit, stand, stir (likes to stir my tea for me), mix, if he wants me to sit he says down and points then says mam, he's trying to put 2 words together just now regularly, he already has a few that are like automatic phrases kinda like 'get down' to the pigeons in the trees 😂 he was telling himself to get down earlier because he was claiming his tower on the outside rather than in it , I thought he was telling me to get down so I turned saying get down off what I'm on the floor, then realised he was talking to himself 😂. He's also playing with mine and yours but more my or mine, then the person themself for if it's theirs / yours, he has gone to say yours a couple times though. You can see he wants to say things sometimes but hasn't quite got the words or confidence yet. Animals he's not so forth coming with, he'll do dog and woof woof, elephant is his favourite to do , but that's it, if printed he'll do noises for some but not always.

Do you do nursery rhymes and baby songs with yours? I'm starting to worry he won't know in y winch spider or any of them as I don't do them with him and wonder if I should?

Hey everyone! Sounds like your little people are doing great. Mines is good too. Sleep is good but we have an early riser which makes me tired lol. She’s usually up anywhere between 5.30-6 but will happily lie in her cot til 6-6.15 then I go get her. I’ve tried to make her bed time later for a week consistently but it makes no diff so she’s better going to bed earlier to get more sleep! Has one nap in the day around 12-2.

speech wise I’ve noticed a huge difference between 19-20 months. She’s saying so much more, copying more sounds that sound more like words, she has developed a new found love for her dummy though (I’m trying so hard to get rid) so I think she would say more if she didn’t have that. @Nclktnntt i made song spoons a few months ago and drew pictures on them (i do work in a nursery but im not very arty haha) and this helped so much with her speech. She sings some of the main words in the nursery rhymes. But I wouldn’t worry that he won’t know the songs.

we’re going to Portugal next month and I’m so nervous about taking her! She’s very sassy shall we say haha. She’s also used to being in her own room so not sure how she’ll cope with us all in the same room. The restaurants don’t open until 7pm either! She gets dinner around 4.30. There is a 24/7 snack shack thing I think so plan is so give her a snack then.. then hopefully she’ll sit with us while we eat. Xxx

@99SR oh the dummy attachment , my LO has only ever had it for bed but not to go to sleep and most days and nights never even used it, whereas now he wants it in the day just because, and I don't like that attachment he's forming with it. But I've found it's worse when he's teething, when his teeth aren't driving him nuts, he doesn't seem to want it, so I'm trying to hand him a tether instead and see if that works lol but I suppose it's not that bad if that's the only reason.

My LO is also liking opposites like in/out, on/off he likes to say back on back in etc.

@Nclktnntt wow lots of words, my little one says mum, dad, kitty, bye, blue and she said bubble once or twice but thats about it, she is very good at making animal sounds though lol she has a book of animals (she absolutely loves books) and can do dog, elephant, cow, coyote (howls lol) chicken, tiger lion and bear (growls) and even wiggles her nose for rabbit haha she knows most of her body parts and will point to them but doesn’t speak, im not too worried about lack of speech though my youngest son (10) is non-verbal so everyone is very attuned to non verbal ques and i think thats probably why she doesn’t talk yet- she doesn’t feel the need to.
she has also stopped napping this week, but it hasn’t improved night time sleep lol.
havent really thought about it, but no i don’t really sing her nursery rhymes 🤔 we do sing songs for different times of the day though for example we have a bathtime song, we sing it and she knows its bathtime and will start going upstairs, same for dinner time etc
@99SR she doesn’t have a dummy but my eldest son did, im pretty sure i literally just binned them all and he forgot about them in a couple of days was 12years ago though so can’t really remember lol, they are at the perfect age for “out of sight out of mind” just have to make sure you get them all cause if they find one it sets you back and they want it again xx

yea @Avie29 is right with out of sight out of mind, I hide them in the day but he does ask for it for nap and bed time.

@99SR we went away in July and I took lots of small activities he could play with on the plane or there, and kept some for on the way back too. Water colouring book, sticker stamper was a hit ! Sticker colouring, magnetic blocks and tiles, this card reader toy from Smyth's (also a hit), some animal puzzles, small flat things mostly. On The plane he barely played with much because he actually slept both times 😂 but they came in handy in the airports and snacks of course 😂 we all eat together around 6-6:30 and a 4:30 snack is a must over here. My LO has a later bedtime (due to fighting naps and sleep), although today he woke at 6:30 (cold) so he's been struggling this morning, keeps asking for milk, dummy and getting his muslin. So I think it'll be an earlier bedtime tonight 🤞

Anyone else little one seriously fighting their sleep/naps at the moment? My little guy is just not wanting his nap - but he does because he's tired, says he's wants it, still has milk to sleep and a dummy, asks for them both for at least an hour before and then finishes the milk and if he's awake says 'down'. Twice he's gone to sleep himself in his bed, today he rolled around for around 20 mins, wanted my hand on his bum (actually say mam, bum) 😂. Anyway, then wanted to get down and found a light on a toy fascinating and started illuminating everything , so I left him to it, 10mins later he asks for a cuddle and dummy again etc, this goes on for almost 2 hours - maybe longer before I stuck him in the car. The stop start drives me up the wall! Seriously.

He's been like this for a few weeks now, but some days he goes to sleep no problem at all so I think we've turned a corner only for the next day to be upside down again. It's giving me whiplash 😂.

I'm actually thinking rather than it being a build up of tiredness ended in overtired, that it's the opposite and he's undertired maybe? He normally has 11 hours at night and 2 hours in the day but I'm thinking keep the 11 hours at night and cut the day nap down? Or shorten the night to 10 hours and keep a longer nap window? Anyone had to deal with this? He's almost 20 months

Hey yep my little one hasn’t had a nap for 2 weeks now, she started pushing her nap out later and later to the point she was wanting to nap at like 4 in the afternoon and then not going to bed till 10 so we cut her nap out completely, she now goes to bed at 7 xx

I don't think he could go the whole day without napping, maybe he will soon 🙈

@Avie29 dreading the day where my LG doesn’t nap!!
@Nclktnntt i thought my LG was under tired so shortened her naps, it made her sleep a bit longer in the morning but we’re back to 2hr naps. She’s usually super tired by the time nap time rolls around so goes down ok. But when she’s with her granny it’s a different story! Short naps & fights them a lot.
does your little guy have his dummy throughout the day? My LG is wanting it more and more!! I think when she’s with her granny she gets it more so when she comes home (like tonight) it’s impossible to get it off her without a screaming match but I’m becoming more aware that it might affect her teeth? Xx

She does get very cranky between 4&5, dinner tends to pep her up a bit till 6 then back to cranky till bathtime at 6:30 and that gives her a bit of energy till bedtime then but yea its a struggle to not give her breast from 4 oclock onwards else she would be zonked lol unfortunately there is no out of sight out of mind with my boobs haha xx

@99SR yes i do miss the couple hours peace in the middle of the day 😮‍💨 but on the upside i have my evenings back a bit now so evens it out a bit xx

@99SR throughout the day no, when he falls or gets upset he doesn't want it, thankfully, but when he's teething he does ask for it a lot. We don't give it him though unless he finds one he's stashed, I wait for him to put it down and the put it away. He knows where they are now though 🙈

Found today's dummy hideout 😂

Ok ladies - so I have emlisted ChatGPT as my sleep coach and we have devised a 14 reset plan to get naps and sleep back on track and earlier. I'll let you know how it goes 🤞

@Nclktnntt haha pic of the dummy! My LG had a 20 min meltdown yesterday because I wouldn’t give her her dummy.

what did chat gpt asvise? I’ve let my girl sleep til 2.30 today, see how that affects bed time lol goodluck to you!

@99SR it's actually quite interesting, suggested wake him up at 7am (as bedtime had fell later meaning wake ups were later and I wanted to bring that forward).

It then suggested because he's fighting to offer nap 5.45-6.25 hrs after wake - so 12:45-1pm and ideal wake up is 2:30. If refusing nap and not asleep by 2pm give a 'rescue nap' in the car or pram but keep it short by 30-45 mins - no later than 3 and do early bedtime.

Today I offered the nap as suggested and it went well, I woke him at 7:10 this morning and he fell asleep at 1:10 so woke him at 2:50 as was still asleep. It's suggesting 7:30-8 bedtime ... not convinced but we'll see 😂. Apparently 75-90 mins is a good nap for him and will keep enough sleep pressure for bedtime. It has also suggested tweaking bedtime routine which I do want to do but not until naps are stable.

I'll screen shot the initial suggestions then it asked our routine and offered a plan based on his sleeping patterns and what I wanted to achieve.

When he asks for the dummy I offer a teether, snack or water as it's usually his teeth making him ask. But he's never really had it through the day and I don't like that he started asking for it, so I hide them. Buuuut, I also don't force him to give it up, I wait until he drops it or hands it me (I ask if I feel his holding onto it). But I try not to make it a 'thing' if I can as I felt like that might strengthen the fight he has for it rather than weaken it - you know what I mean? I'm not sure that makes sense but it does in my head 😂

@99SR how was bedtime? We were asleep a little later than planned but honestly the calmest bedtime we've had in a long time, he got the zoomies mid routine, so I let them run their course and we carried on calm... we even emptied the dishwasher, slower than normal (was buying time as my husband was running late working on the house and had another loud part to do).

Saturday is usually where it all goes up in smoke - the day I'm at work - so fingers crossed tomorrow we can stay on track lol

Should have said asleep later by only 20 mins than what I expected so all in all I call that a success 💪

My daughters grown up now, but I used to put nappies on back to front for mine front sleeper as bigger area

@BrendaSmall thank you. I've found pull ups are working fir us just now but will keep that in my back pocket just incase 🙂