Teacher lying or son lying

[Gudinne]

Just looking for some advice. My son is four. On Friday after school he told me that his ear was sore because he had accidentally popped a small stone down it at school that morning. I asked if he had told a teacher, he said yes and told me which teacher he had told. It wasn't his normal class teacher who he said was not in school on Friday. I asked him what the teacher had said when he told her, he can't remember what she said but she didn't look in his ear. I couldn't see anything in his ear but took him to A&E where they removed a small stone from his ear. He is fine, no damage done.

I emailed school about this and asked in future if any staff become aware of anything that means my child needs medical attention they let me know immediately.

School has responded to say the teacher said my son never told her he had a stone in his ear. I believe my son and can't think of any reason why he would lie.

What if any further action should I take? His dad and my sis reckon do nothing as the teacher will just maintain her position so it's her word against that of my son. They reckon that there are probably teachers just like her in every school.

Christ I feel for this teacher.

The only action I'd be taking OP is advising your dear child to not put stones in their ears.

The teacher has no reason to lie. It's probably a misperception from your child.
But as always it's mummy will always believe their angel child and the teachers must be challenged and complained about.

Choose your battles. You'll look like one of 'those' parents.

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat dont talk such utter shite.

I still want to know how the teacher was supposed to react if even the child's mother couldn't see the stone?

OP - its far easier to teach your child not to put anything in any orifice that shouldn't be there naturally. Or frisk him everyday. Far easier since its a 1 on 1 situation rather than a minimum of 1 on 30.

@Pixiedust1234 i probably would have phoned home and told mum. I certainly wouldn’t be trying to retrieve it 😬.

I think there is a middle ground here which you are missing it's really sad to read this.

I really wish I wasn't a a teacher anymore, despite loving my job but this is crackers.

Being accused of lying is just such an absolute insult and comparing the skills of a qualified (hopefully) adult and a four year old and vying them of against each other as to whom is lying is as ridiculous as it or deplorable.

There are a million scenarios but if you need to speak to the teacher to find out what actually happened and then believe them.

If you do want to follow it up then a general email to school stating that
" Dave came home from school in Monday and had a stone in his ear. We took him to a and e and had it removed. He states he told the teacher but can't remember anything else. Can you please keep a close eye on him and If he gets into anymore scrapes let me know and I'll come and get him. He might say something is sore. We have told him to refrain from inserting objects in to orifices. Thanks x "

Obviously not thanks x but if you read slt newbie you will get it!

I've heard a lot had these form Time to time, fluffy dressing stuck on a Wound, head injury not given medical attention x 4, popped joint put back etc.

This. Kids do tell little lies if they think the parent (s) will be annoyed

Seeing as you're so sanctimonious about what teachers should be doing, why don't you train to be one? There's a real shortage at the moment ...

Dear all,

We've received a complaint from Dave's mum about Mrs Jones sticking stones in orifices again. All EYFS staff need to measure stones/marbles and other small objects to ensure a min diameter of 3cm to avoid getting stuck, before we open at 8:30am tomorrow. Replacement objects must be purchased from the TWAT shop. No reimbursement applicable (obvs!). Thanks x

@Itstarts

Brilliant

thanks x

One child told her parents I lost her on a school trip and how she was terrified because the buzzer she was wearing was buzzing to say she was lost and too far away from me!! We were at London Zoo, there were no buzzers and she definitely didn't get lost. No idea why she lied but mum came in all guns blazing.

This thread has shown there is such a lack of trust in teachers. Once we had a child come in wearing a watch that had a camera/recording feature on it 😳 The parents were mighty embarrassed when they (not their child) were summoned to the headteacher because the watch could have picked up images of children in the toilets or getting changed for PE.

OP, you didn't just send your son to A&E by himself and hope that the staff would understand him. You took him there because you suspected a problem. They understood that the child had not just wandered into A&E for a fun afternoon outing, but because something might be wrong. You told them what the problem might be. They asked him to tell them, and he answered. They listened, because they were focusing on his answer and the possible health issue.

This is not the situation on the playground, obviously.

YABU to expect that 'I told the teacher' and 'the teacher heard and understood' are the same thing.

A nursery teacher will have many children communicating to them, often at the same time. Children can say something once, then move on, and by the time the teacher comes back and asks if the child can repeat what they said, they have forgotten or aren't currently interested in saying it again.

It's fair to ask what happened, but if the teacher has said she didn't know, or DS did not tell her (or he did, but she didn't hear), I don't see why you would disbelieve her. Have you had prior concerns about DS's care in this school?

I had a child tell their mum I gave them a slice of chocolate birthday cake every day 🤣. She was lovely about it and just asked whether the cake I give them was halal. I was baffled.

I’m not a teacher - just a parent to teenage boys - I’m baffled by OPs posts and sincerely hope OP wises up before her 4 year old morphs into a teen .

thank you to the teachers on here for all you do