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NHS now say you can cosleep safely.

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 14:17

The never sleep with your baby has now been removed and updated to be safe if you share your bed with your baby.

Isn't that awesome 👏 😊

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tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:08

Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 14:17

The never sleep with your baby has now been removed and updated to be safe if you share your bed with your baby.

Isn't that awesome 👏 😊

Midwife here! No we don’t? We give advice on the safest way to do it if you insist on doing it. The advice remains against bedsharing.

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:10

tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:08

Midwife here! No we don’t? We give advice on the safest way to do it if you insist on doing it. The advice remains against bedsharing.

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Well it has. Did yesterday

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tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:14

Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:10

Well it has. Did yesterday

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no it hasn’t you just have poor comprehension skills

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midnightblue12 · 11/03/2023 21:14

I never co slept with my eldest but with my youngest we've co slept.
I'm doing on my own this time and honestly it has been SO much easier and so much more comforting.
He's almost 3 now. He starts off in his own bed but normals comes and snuggles into mine.
I'll never forget how lovely this has been ♥️

Both have been terrible sleepers, no technique made the slightest bit of difference on that 🙈

Tinybrother · 11/03/2023 21:17

QuinnofHearts · 11/03/2023 20:47

Spoke to my midwife on the 11th. She disagrees with it immensely.

I think it's ridiculous myself. Why risk SIDS?

For some people, the greater risk is suffocation due to falling asleep in a less safe position with the baby than setting up for safe bed sharing. You can think it’s as ridiculous as you like, you might even be one of those people who think that some parents are just being feeble if they can’t get their baby to sleep in a cot, I don’t know, but if you think the only advice that should be allowed should relate to putting babies in cots then you have to accept that you are increasing risks in other areas.

Tinybrother · 11/03/2023 21:18

tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:08

Midwife here! No we don’t? We give advice on the safest way to do it if you insist on doing it. The advice remains against bedsharing.

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“If you insist”

<eye roll>

tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:21

Tinybrother · 11/03/2023 21:18

“If you insist”

<eye roll>

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please show me evidence which was issued from the NHS which says that bed sharing is now encouraged… I suspect I‘ll be waiting a while because it doesn’t exist.

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:21

tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:14

no it hasn’t you just have poor comprehension skills

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Whats with people being arseholes lately. You don't sound like a midwife. Yes it has.

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:22

midnightblue12 · 11/03/2023 21:14

I never co slept with my eldest but with my youngest we've co slept.
I'm doing on my own this time and honestly it has been SO much easier and so much more comforting.
He's almost 3 now. He starts off in his own bed but normals comes and snuggles into mine.
I'll never forget how lovely this has been ♥️

Both have been terrible sleepers, no technique made the slightest bit of difference on that 🙈

It is comforting 🥰 that's proper cute. I'm definitely not going to stop mone getting in my bed when he's older.

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:22

Mine*

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tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:23

Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:21

Whats with people being arseholes lately. You don't sound like a midwife. Yes it has.

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Where’s your evidence? post the link? I don’t sound like a Midwife because I’m challenging your rubbish? Sorry do Midwives agree with everything and smile and nod?

Tinybrother · 11/03/2023 21:25

tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:21

please show me evidence which was issued from the NHS which says that bed sharing is now encouraged… I suspect I‘ll be waiting a while because it doesn’t exist.

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I haven’t commented on that at all

the eye roll was about the “if you insist” attitude

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:28

tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:23

Where’s your evidence? post the link? I don’t sound like a Midwife because I’m challenging your rubbish? Sorry do Midwives agree with everything and smile and nod?

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www.netmums.com/parenting/co-sleeping-guidance-updated-by-the-nhs-who-now-say-you-can-sleep-in-the-same-bed-as-your-baby

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tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:33

Thats a netmums article, that’s not NHS guidance. If you go and look at the actual guidance, it remains unchanged. The message is very clearly don’t cosleep but if you do it regardless of our advice then here are some ways to reduce risks. That’s not the same thing as the NHS saying you can co-sleep safely.

tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:36

Tinybrother · 11/03/2023 21:25

I haven’t commented on that at all

the eye roll was about the “if you insist” attitude

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Yeah, not getting into an argument about cosleeping.. nice try though!
I’m commenting on the apparent change in NHS evidence this poster is telling people has happened, which isn’t true.

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:37

tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:33

Thats a netmums article, that’s not NHS guidance. If you go and look at the actual guidance, it remains unchanged. The message is very clearly don’t cosleep but if you do it regardless of our advice then here are some ways to reduce risks. That’s not the same thing as the NHS saying you can co-sleep safely.

It is stating nhs had said it tho

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tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:38

Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:37

It is stating nhs had said it tho

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It’s clickbait. The NHS didn’t say that.

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:38

tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:38

It’s clickbait. The NHS didn’t say that.

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Whatever you say...

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tunamayo81 · 11/03/2023 21:41

Like I said, find me an actual link to NHS GUIDELINES (not netmums) that advocates bed sharing, Until then know that you’re posting rubbish, it’s potentially dangerous and very irresponsible.

110APiccadilly · 11/03/2023 21:42

Kevinyoutwat · 11/03/2023 18:28

My middle child, a HCA tucked her up with me on the postnatal ward, post section.

I said I was surprised and she replied, “if he starts crying and you press the buzzer, no one is coming. I’ve seen far too many post section women give up and hurt themselves.”

At least she was honest!

Co-sleeping really isn't a good substitute for proper post-partum care though!!

Personally (and I have had two sections) I'd rather take the risk of injury to myself by moving wrong than co-sleep. But both my babies were under the weight threshold for safe co-sleeping anyway, so that does influence how I feel about it.

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 21:45

Kevinyoutwat · 11/03/2023 18:28

My middle child, a HCA tucked her up with me on the postnatal ward, post section.

I said I was surprised and she replied, “if he starts crying and you press the buzzer, no one is coming. I’ve seen far too many post section women give up and hurt themselves.”

At least she was honest!

I love your username 🤣🤣

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Saschka · 11/03/2023 21:47

MintJulia · 11/03/2023 14:41

That's a relief. I co-slept with DS for years, without issue.

I'm a light sleeper, don't drink alcohol, and we shared a 1 bed flat until I could buy a house. Apart from his tendency to 'starfish' there was never a problem.

It's astonishing how much space a 2yo can take up 😁

Yep I hated cosleeping for exactly this reason! I occasionally have to share a bed with DS on holiday (he has his own but sneaks into mine at night) and I never sleep well. I have no idea how a six year old can push a 42 year old out of bed, but he manages it. And I’ve found him asleep on my head before now. And he always wakes me up for “a chat” at fucking 6am.

It was great when I was BFing though - I used to bring him in for a feed at about 2am and he’d stay there until morning.

helpfulperson · 11/03/2023 22:35

Safe and Not Safe are not binary conditions. Co Sleeping (and many things about child rearing such as car seats, climbing trees etc) can either be done more safely or less safely.

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Emmamoo89 · 11/03/2023 22:37

helpfulperson · 11/03/2023 22:35

Safe and Not Safe are not binary conditions. Co Sleeping (and many things about child rearing such as car seats, climbing trees etc) can either be done more safely or less safely.

Exactly.

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Nicecow · 12/03/2023 01:54

geraniumsrojo · 11/03/2023 14:37

www.nhs.uk/conditions/baby/caring-for-a-newborn/reduce-the-risk-of-sudden-infant-death-syndrome/

"Be safe if you share a bed with your baby

If you share a bed with your baby (co-sleeping), you should:

make sure they sleep on a firm, flat mattress lying on their back
not have any pillows or duvets near them
not have other children or pets in the bed at the same time

It's important not to share a bed with your baby if they had a low birthweight (less than 2.5kg or 5.5lb) or if you or your partner:

smoke (no matter where or when you smoke and even if you never smoke in bed)
have had 2 or more units of alcohol
have taken recreational drugs
have taken medicine that causes drowsiness"

This says how to reduce SIDS. NOT THAT IT'S SAFE! My friends baby died from this, babies actually die from co-sleeping, so go for it if you're willing to risk that.

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