NHS now say you can cosleep safely.

[Emmamoo89]

The never sleep with your baby has now been removed and updated to be safe if you share your bed with your baby.

Isn't that awesome 👏 😊

My oldest is 6 and midwife told me this then, and with my subsequent children.. maybe it is just official now?

Sounds like you weren’t cosleeping in the correct position

I certainly was cosleeping in the correct postion and followed all the guidance.

Yeah think it's just an official thing

Which was?

How were you sleeping with baba? Did you have your arm around them?

I got tucked up in bed with my first baby in the post natal ward. Looking back, it wasn't 'safe sleeping' at all, but because of the leftovers from SPD (and being 24hrs after section), I couldn't roll without waking anyway for about 6 months after birth.

My HV's were perfectly content with the spring arrangements

I co slept with both my ff baby and bf baby. Both in the same position, both I was equally responsive. My husband also co slept with them (we'd swap sides), and was equally responsive and safe.

We had a sidecar (babybay) that became very much part of the bed surface, so I'd curl around baby in there. If I did roll, I'd hit the wood at the side before baby .

I much preferred sleeping with my ff baby though - she was comforted by my mere proximity and we both slept well. My bf baby almost constantly snacked, and feeding lying down gave me horrendous backache.

You'll hear it's because breastfeeding mothers naturally sleep in a certain position (because FF mums can't possibly be in tune with their babies needs you know) but realistically it's because FF babies and their mothers sleep deeper and longer, easier to accidentally roll over on them when you're in a deep sleep.

I bed shared with my first baby (mix fed) it was the only way to get some sleep. I broke down to the GP about it and she said 'do what you have to do'

My son loves the boobie but luckily slept through from 11 weeks. But when I co slept when he was 8 weeks he didn't snack a lot really. Mostly slept

My middle child, a HCA tucked her up with me on the postnatal ward, post section.

I said I was surprised and she replied, “if he starts crying and you press the buzzer, no one is coming. I’ve seen far too many post section women give up and hurt themselves.”

At least she was honest!

How were you sleeping with baba? Did you have your arm around them?

Why? Are you such a believer that cosleeping is completely safe that you'll try to blame a mother for almost smothering her baby despite following guidance correctly?

I almost killed my first born, I was so sleep deprived trying to get him to sleep in his crib I fell asleep in the bath with him, I fell asleep on the sofa and he fell in the crack, face down, I fell asleep with him on my lap and dropped him at least 10 times.
He would scream all night every time I put him down. me and his dad (who worked all day and took turns rocking him with me all night) were absolutely shattered. I can't believe he's still alive.

With my second, I had more experience and more sense. I slept in the bed from day one and do you know how many times I fell asleep with him? 0
how many times i dropped him? 0
how many times I fell asleep in the bath? 0
How many times I fell asleep on the sofa? 0
The whole family was well rested and the baby thrived. I only regret listening to 'safe sleep advice'. sleep deprivation is way more dangerous than co sleeping.

I'm still a deep sleeper but always woke up to him. Not all breastfed babies sleep light or less amount of time. All babies are different

I'm not blaming anyone.

I'm sorry you went through that. I agree sleep deprivation is way worse

Were you breastfeeding? Were you sleeping in the C position?

Aww that was lovely of her 😌

I always sleep in that position when I co sleep. Like curl right around him

Were you breastfeeding? Were you sleeping in the C position?

Why are you asking that when I've told you (and even said in my first post that I BF) that I followed all guidance properly?

That's true about doing it simce the dawn of time. The reason it has become dangerous though is because the environment which we do it in has changed greatly

At 6m (co sleeping), from 3 am - morning, it would be almost constant - I timed it one night, approximately every 5 minutes, for a couple of sucks 😭😳

So she went in her own room, and wake ups were reduced to 5-10 times a night (but much longer).

She's now back in bed with me, aged nearly 4, and still wakes 1-2 a night, despite being on medication to help her sleep 🙄

My first slept (ff) 7 hour stretches by 6 weeks, but that didn't last. It was the best sleeping we had for about 3 years. And yes, we had a rock solid, lovely routine.

I can't even imagine having a baby that slept through from 11 weeks. Sounds blissful. You were very very lucky. Fingers crossed it continues.

Advice 5 years ago was bedsharing was OK and co sleeping was recommended until at least 6 months. Nhs midwife recommended I follow lullaby trusts safer sleep guide

Aww bet that was hard. Keep doing what you have to do. You're doing your best. I hope it does! He learnt to self soothe early on. Loves his sleep like his mama 🥰

Think it's just made it more official

I’m not sure hounding a poster about whether she did cosleeping right is a great look or advertisement for cosleeping.

I cosleep in the correct position, breastfeed, etc, and my baby still wriggled under me: but I woke, because that instinct to wake is part of cosleeping. Where I haven’t woken is when I’ve gone to sleep accidentally: holding my first baby, burping my second, and haven’t programmed myself into the light sleep that you do when cosleeping. On that basis it’s safer than the alternative.

In all honestly I love sleeping and while a baby snuggle is nice, my preference is a night in my bed without a child in it, sleeping in whatever position I want! Cosleeping C-shape on my side all night without moving is bringing back my pregnancy PGP, and I do not want it back! But I do get more sleep this way, on balance.

I don't think anyone has ever said it's "completely safe". Getting in a car with your baby has risks. Carrying your baby down the stairs has risks. The first time (and plenty subsequent times) your baby eats solid food, there's risk. Heck, I'll even say the most taboo thing ever that vaccines carry risk.

The point is, something having a risk doesn't make it inherently unsafe. There will always be a small proportion of people who can personally attest to those risks but whilst they are in an overwhelming minority, something can't be generally classified as unsafe.