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The way society lies to us about motherhood

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RLRapunzel · 10/07/2021 07:14

I have reflected on this topic ALOT since having DD1 3 years ago and honestly I'm still mad about it. The truth of it is, if I had been told the truth about motherhood I wouldn't have had children and I'm not ashamed to say it anymore. I think there is a huge problem in the way society lies to childless women and I think PND rates would be much lower if we stopped the lies.

Childless women are told by everyone around us that having children is the most fulfilling thing you will ever do. It will bring you infinite happiness, infinite love; a love that you've never felt before. Infact, women are often shamed if they express their lack of interest in having children because how could A WOMAN not want CHILDREN?! My mother said all of these things to me and I was too ignorant to ask about the negatives because I simply didn't know they existed. I recall asking how painful childbirth was (since I believed that was the only downfall) and she just smiled and said you forget all about it as soon as you hold your child for the first time and your overwhelmed with love.

What a crock of shit.

All through my pregnancy I imagined a fairytale-esk life with my new baby. My expectations were 100% that my life would be exactly the same, there would just be this adorable little baby smiling up at me the whole time.

The shock of what happened after my DD was born sent me spiraling into PND of course because how could it not? I was NOT prepared in the slightest for what was coming. I was not ready to give up my life; I wasn't even aware that I would have to up my life. Not one person told me the truth. Turns out my brother also had colic as a baby; but my mother failed to mention the existence of colic at any point before DD was completely inconsolable for hours every night.

If any unsuspecting childless person asks me 'what's it like having kids?' I tell them the truth. I love my kids so much and I couldn't be without them now but parenthood is relentless. You will have to sacrifice everything; your body, your hobbies, your social life (at least through the baby years), your freedom. Your life stops being about you; its about the children. You will have to put yourself second almost all of the time. You will be tired; not yawning over your morning coffee tired. Soul destroyingly tired, on the verge of tears because your so desperate for sleep tired. If-I-have-to-change-another-nappy-today-ill-scream tired. You will become distant from your childless friends because you simply have little in common now. In my personal circumstance I have very little access to babysitters so untill nursery (which is now finally only a couple months away!) there's no breaks.

Oh and also, odds are your boyfriend/husband will be pretty useless. (I know this isn't the case for everyone but I really do feel it's alot more common for dad's to be pretty useless)

Obviously everything written here is based on my own personal experiences and everybody's experiences are different. I'm probably going to get a wave of women saying this post is unfair because they did get the fairytale version of motherhood and their lives are wonderful and fulfilled. I'm not trying to invalid your experience; I'm so happy that the motherhood myth worked out for you, but this post isn't for you. This is for everybody who feels cheated by the ideal we are sold on motherhood as childless women; its not your fault. Society really screwed us over.

PS. if you're struggling with a colicy or fussed baby RN I recommend getting yourself a decent pair of ear plugs or listening to headphones while your enduring. Not hearing the screaming, for me at least, helped keep me calm(er) while trying to comfort my babies.

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MartinaMcBride · 10/07/2021 12:45

@Twelvetimestwo

It's strange how vitriolic the child-free posters get.

Definitely an agenda there. My best friend is child-free but choice but never says anything disparaging to me about my choice to have children.

Again, I think that's unfair. People have supported OP and been harsh - both parents and childfree people, but as usual the divide starts. Any minute now someone will ask why childfree people are on mumsnet and the while thing will start again.
Letsallscreamatthesistene · 10/07/2021 12:45

@traumatisednoodle

This honestly wasn't my experience, maternity leave felt like a lovely holiday and much easier than I'd anticipated. But I have 10 cousins, am the oldest of 3, was a prolific babysitter from age 12 and had looked after many children overnight before I had my own. I had probrably already held upwards of 20 newborns and changed 100's of nappies.

I also recieved some fantastic advice during pregnancy which I implemented.

So you already knew what it was all about then
grapewine · 10/07/2021 12:47

Childfree agenda? Seriously?

I'm fine with people having children. My friends are great parents from what I can see. It's just not for me. There's no agenda here.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

traumatisednoodle · 10/07/2021 12:48

Exactly. I didn't feel lied to or betrayed.

namechange90832 · 10/07/2021 12:48

Definitely an agenda there.

What agenda would the child free have exactly?

Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 12:50

Again, I think that's unfair. People have supported OP and been harsh - both parents and childfree people, but as usual the divide starts. Any minute now someone will ask why childfree people are on mumsnet and the while thing will start again.

A lot of child free posters have asserted their opinions that having children is degrading and ruins people's lives.

Pretty hefty opinions to have.

Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 12:50

@grapewine

Childfree agenda? Seriously?

I'm fine with people having children. My friends are great parents from what I can see. It's just not for me. There's no agenda here.

Then I wasn't talking to you. ☮️
Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 12:50

@namechange90832

Definitely an agenda there.

What agenda would the child free have exactly?

You tell me!
Roselilly36 · 10/07/2021 12:50

I totally agree, babies change your life completely, anyone that thinks otherwise has a big shock heading their way, before I had children many of my friends did, I have never known someone say parenthood is easy!

Having a baby changes your body, your relationship, and for many their careers too.

I consider myself very lucky enough to have two children, wonderful, now grown up sons. They have totally made my life, they are to me the moon, stars & sun, I would do it all again in a heartbeat if I could, I loved them being little I truly did, it was a very demanding time, not a lot of sleep etc but watching them grow has been a pleasure.

Turtles4543 · 10/07/2021 12:50

I didn’t know what it would be like. I think my mum did which explains her feelings towards my less than ideal pregnancy. It was a huge shock but I didn’t spiral. I got on with it and wouldn’t change a thing.

MartinaMcBride · 10/07/2021 12:52

@Twelvetimestwo

Again, I think that's unfair. People have supported OP and been harsh - both parents and childfree people, but as usual the divide starts. Any minute now someone will ask why childfree people are on mumsnet and the while thing will start again.

A lot of child free posters have asserted their opinions that having children is degrading and ruins people's lives.

Pretty hefty opinions to have.

A lot of parents feel the same way! I don't agree, I think on an individual level it can ruin your life but not as a whole, but people are entitled to their opinions. Childfree people are told they're ruining their lives and are worthless etc and I don't agree with that either but you can't change people's opinions so I don't argue.
ButYouJustPointedToAIIOfMe · 10/07/2021 12:52

If it's really that awful, say no. Rather than bring another unwanted child into the world

Not everyone who has an unplanned pregnancy after dc1 feel that abortion or adoption is the right decision for them either.
Alternative would have been vasectomy/sterilisation before unplanned baby comes along after a huge gap, BUT for a woman sterilisation - being abdominal surgery - is not a choice for everyone.
Celibacy works only works until it doesn't, same as morning after pill.

FTMF30 · 10/07/2021 12:56

@grapewine

Childfree agenda? Seriously?

I'm fine with people having children. My friends are great parents from what I can see. It's just not for me. There's no agenda here.

I honestly don't think most childfree people have any kind of agenda on here whatsoever. But there are some supposedly childfree (i.e. happy with their choice) who say absolute daft things or go out of their way to add their two cents (particularly on a post where a mother is struggling) to gleefully agree that motherhood MUST be shit, that anything else is a lie and that their own life is utter bliss. I honestly think if they truly felt that way, they wouldn't comment in such a manner specifically on posts where someone who ALREADY has a child (so no turning back) is finding it difficult and say how great their own life is and how shit the OP's must be. It's just a bit spiteful isn't it?

This isn't intended to be a childfree vs mothers comment. Again, most childfree people are just that - childfree. But some do seem bitter and nasty about their own choice.

PerveenMistry · 10/07/2021 12:57

I never believed the lies and sugar-coating and am blissfully childfree.

I have a nice home, good job, seven-figure retirement nest egg, travel, lovely garden, great friends, fulfilling volunteer work, and currently a fun man my own age. My body isn't wrecked.

Each and every day I feel grateful. My childfree sister and friends agree.

Letsallscreamatthesistene · 10/07/2021 12:59

@PerveenMistry

I never believed the lies and sugar-coating and am blissfully childfree.

I have a nice home, good job, seven-figure retirement nest egg, travel, lovely garden, great friends, fulfilling volunteer work, and currently a fun man my own age. My body isn't wrecked.

Each and every day I feel grateful. My childfree sister and friends agree.

Good for you
PerveenMistry · 10/07/2021 12:59

@Wormholes

I feel for you, OP, but you're simply wrong to say that the downsides of motherhood are some well-kept secret.

I'm fully aware of all the ghastly consequences you mention, which is why - like thousands and thousands of similarly well informed women - I haven't had kids Confused.

Same here.
Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 13:00

My body isn't wrecked.

It's comments like this.

Radio4ordie · 10/07/2021 13:02

@Twelvetimestwo

Once you’ve had one child surely you’re committed to a parenting lifestyle. You may as well give your child a sibling if that was your previous intention/you are able to

'May as well' - we're talking about human life here!

Yes… and Hmm ? My second is a total joy and the light of my life but it was a totally hard logical decision not an emotional one to have another baby. Whereas having my first was emotional, societal, biological ‘reasons’ and the adjustment was MASSIVE. I don’t regret having my children and would do it again knowing what I know now…..but I do think I had NO idea what I was letting myself in for first time around! I had loads of experience with children professionally and personally but the unrelenting part is hard to practise.
namechange90832 · 10/07/2021 13:03

@Twelvetimestwo why? Having children takes a huge toll on a woman's body, that's no secret, I'm quite lucky in that I walked away pretty unscathed but one of the reasons I'm not having a third is because I don't want to throw that dice for the third time, I imagine it's very reassuring to know your bladder control and whatever else is in tact! A very valid "pro" to not having a child!

PerveenMistry · 10/07/2021 13:04

@Twelvetimestwo

My body isn't wrecked.

It's comments like this.

Well, it's true. No mum tum or torn genitalia or flaccid breasts here. All the things mumsnetters are continually complaining about.
Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 13:04

Are most mothers' bodies 'wrecked'? Really?

Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 13:05

Well, it's true. No mum tum or torn genitalia or flaccid breasts here. All the things mumsnetters are continually complaining about.

I'm a mother and have none of those things

PerveenMistry · 10/07/2021 13:05

[quote namechange90832]@Twelvetimestwo why? Having children takes a huge toll on a woman's body, that's no secret, I'm quite lucky in that I walked away pretty unscathed but one of the reasons I'm not having a third is because I don't want to throw that dice for the third time, I imagine it's very reassuring to know your bladder control and whatever else is in tact! A very valid "pro" to not having a child![/quote]

Yes, continent and content!

Letsallscreamatthesistene · 10/07/2021 13:07

My body isn't wrecked

Ive had one child and my body isnt 'wrecked' either. I do crossfit 4 times a week and am wearing the clothes I had pre-pregnancy. Im not sure you can equate having children to 'wrecked' bodies.

Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 13:07

@Letsallscreamatthesistene

My body isn't wrecked

Ive had one child and my body isnt 'wrecked' either. I do crossfit 4 times a week and am wearing the clothes I had pre-pregnancy. Im not sure you can equate having children to 'wrecked' bodies.

Exactly my point.
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