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The way society lies to us about motherhood

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RLRapunzel · 10/07/2021 07:14

I have reflected on this topic ALOT since having DD1 3 years ago and honestly I'm still mad about it. The truth of it is, if I had been told the truth about motherhood I wouldn't have had children and I'm not ashamed to say it anymore. I think there is a huge problem in the way society lies to childless women and I think PND rates would be much lower if we stopped the lies.

Childless women are told by everyone around us that having children is the most fulfilling thing you will ever do. It will bring you infinite happiness, infinite love; a love that you've never felt before. Infact, women are often shamed if they express their lack of interest in having children because how could A WOMAN not want CHILDREN?! My mother said all of these things to me and I was too ignorant to ask about the negatives because I simply didn't know they existed. I recall asking how painful childbirth was (since I believed that was the only downfall) and she just smiled and said you forget all about it as soon as you hold your child for the first time and your overwhelmed with love.

What a crock of shit.

All through my pregnancy I imagined a fairytale-esk life with my new baby. My expectations were 100% that my life would be exactly the same, there would just be this adorable little baby smiling up at me the whole time.

The shock of what happened after my DD was born sent me spiraling into PND of course because how could it not? I was NOT prepared in the slightest for what was coming. I was not ready to give up my life; I wasn't even aware that I would have to up my life. Not one person told me the truth. Turns out my brother also had colic as a baby; but my mother failed to mention the existence of colic at any point before DD was completely inconsolable for hours every night.

If any unsuspecting childless person asks me 'what's it like having kids?' I tell them the truth. I love my kids so much and I couldn't be without them now but parenthood is relentless. You will have to sacrifice everything; your body, your hobbies, your social life (at least through the baby years), your freedom. Your life stops being about you; its about the children. You will have to put yourself second almost all of the time. You will be tired; not yawning over your morning coffee tired. Soul destroyingly tired, on the verge of tears because your so desperate for sleep tired. If-I-have-to-change-another-nappy-today-ill-scream tired. You will become distant from your childless friends because you simply have little in common now. In my personal circumstance I have very little access to babysitters so untill nursery (which is now finally only a couple months away!) there's no breaks.

Oh and also, odds are your boyfriend/husband will be pretty useless. (I know this isn't the case for everyone but I really do feel it's alot more common for dad's to be pretty useless)

Obviously everything written here is based on my own personal experiences and everybody's experiences are different. I'm probably going to get a wave of women saying this post is unfair because they did get the fairytale version of motherhood and their lives are wonderful and fulfilled. I'm not trying to invalid your experience; I'm so happy that the motherhood myth worked out for you, but this post isn't for you. This is for everybody who feels cheated by the ideal we are sold on motherhood as childless women; its not your fault. Society really screwed us over.

PS. if you're struggling with a colicy or fussed baby RN I recommend getting yourself a decent pair of ear plugs or listening to headphones while your enduring. Not hearing the screaming, for me at least, helped keep me calm(er) while trying to comfort my babies.

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Letsallscreamatthesistene · 10/07/2021 13:07

You sound quite ignorant tbh

PartridgeFeather · 10/07/2021 13:08

Haven't rtft but thanks for posting OP.

I completely agree. I've told my kids the honest truth: having kids and having to work for a living is utterly, utterly miserable - especially for the female - and can they please not do it for their own sakes.

I hope they have amazing, fulfilling child-free lives.

Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 13:10

@PartridgeFeather

Haven't rtft but thanks for posting OP.

I completely agree. I've told my kids the honest truth: having kids and having to work for a living is utterly, utterly miserable - especially for the female - and can they please not do it for their own sakes.

I hope they have amazing, fulfilling child-free lives.

You said that to your children? Honestly, actually said that?

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Letsallscreamatthesistene · 10/07/2021 13:10

@Letsallscreamatthesistene

You sound quite ignorant tbh
This was in reply to @perveenmistry
worktrip · 10/07/2021 13:11

I don't know who you talked to pre children or why you were so naive as to think having children was a doddle, but I've never heard people say it was a bed of roses. I've heard (and say myself) it's hard work but rewarding, that you love your children more than life and they give you infinite joy, but they also make you want to scream with tiredness and boredom.

How could you think you would continue normal life, hobbies, jobs etc with the well-being of children lying mostly on your shoulders?

I get what you are saying about the endless perfect baby and mummy TV ads, and my reaction to their perfect hair and make up (I rarely get time to even brush my hair) is just fuck the fuck off, but that's just typical media shit and anyone with half a brain ignores that.

Sorry, but I think your self pitying post is as unrealistic as your expectations were.

MarshaBradyo · 10/07/2021 13:11

A screaming baby will impact hugely

Do you have just one child? You say dd but then babies

wombatspoopcubes · 10/07/2021 13:12

I don't agree totally on the media thing. Anytime I put on mtv there's this teenage and pregnant show with all these young and superfit 16 year old complaining about exhaustion, sore nipples, having to do everything et cetera. It depends on what you watch I guess.

I didn't come across any realistic birth media though. It was all either fine or drama and nothing about how much waiting there bloody was and how uncomfortable it is to leak waters the whole day and being checked a zillion times and then hearing that you made no progress. Bloody frustrating that felt.

Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 13:13

One born every minute is pretty honest

Letsallscreamatthesistene · 10/07/2021 13:14

@Twelvetimestwo

One born every minute is pretty honest
This is true actually
PerveenMistry · 10/07/2021 13:14

@PartridgeFeather

Haven't rtft but thanks for posting OP.

I completely agree. I've told my kids the honest truth: having kids and having to work for a living is utterly, utterly miserable - especially for the female - and can they please not do it for their own sakes.

I hope they have amazing, fulfilling child-free lives.

Good for you.

On a dying overpopulated planet, the childfree are the true heroes and will be more so going forward.

Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 13:15

But to tell living children how miserable they've made their mother?

Really?

namechange90832 · 10/07/2021 13:15

Yes, continent and content!

This should be the slogan to your agenda WinkGrin

MarshaBradyo · 10/07/2021 13:16

@Twelvetimestwo

But to tell living children how miserable they've made their mother?

Really?

Hmm I know
PerveenMistry · 10/07/2021 13:18

@namechange90832

Yes, continent and content!

This should be the slogan to your agenda WinkGrin

It is! Grin

Weebleweeble · 10/07/2021 13:22

Childfree poster extols the wonders of being childfree. But as she hasn't had DCs she doesn't really know.
Mother of DCs extols the wonders of bringing another human into the world but now she isn't child free she doesn't really know.
Please keep this in mind - you don't know what you haven't done. Don't try to point score as it's pretty meaningless.

MostlyHappyMummy · 10/07/2021 13:22

OP how many children do you have?

mintaerobrownie · 10/07/2021 13:26

I totally know what you mean, but I think you do forget how bad it can be, otherwise no one would have a second child. I could have no way on earth wanted to try for a second when DC1 was age one, which many of my friends have, but I wasn't ready at all. So I think it depends on your baby, your support and your expectations. I didn't know anything about babies and I did struggle and still do with the no time off, but I wanted a change so happy for my social life to take a back seat ( plus I moved areas just before DC1 was due)

Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 13:28

@Weebleweeble

Childfree poster extols the wonders of being childfree. But as she hasn't had DCs she doesn't really know. Mother of DCs extols the wonders of bringing another human into the world but now she isn't child free she doesn't really know. Please keep this in mind - you don't know what you haven't done. Don't try to point score as it's pretty meaningless.
I was child free for 31 years before then not being child free.... soooo
namechange90832 · 10/07/2021 13:30

Please keep this in mind - you don't know what you haven't done. Don't try to point score as it's pretty meaningless.

I don't think it's point scoring, it's raising the very valid point to the OP that having children is a choice and some people are well aware of the downsides, enough to make the decision not to have children. It's as valid as those who have the same experience as the op, and those with children who disagree.

Lottapianos · 10/07/2021 13:33

'i was child free for 31 years before then not being child free.... soooo'

That's in no way the same as having made the decision to remain childfree forever, and knowing that you will never be a mother. That's a pretty complex and emotional decision for some of us

GettingUntrapped · 10/07/2021 13:35

@Twelvetimestwo why not tell the children it was utterly miserable suffering bringing them up? I think it's worse not to tell them in case they fall for the bullshit.
You can separate your feelings about motherhood out from the actual incredible slog of bringing them up in a society that says motherhood is the most fulfilling thing you can do (I find it's the opposite), but then once you've popped, your on your own.
And it's an impossible job that leaves many women stuffed
It's the way we bring up children in tiny units that's the problem, not necessarily the children themselves.

UsedUpUsername · 10/07/2021 13:36

On a dying overpopulated planet, the childfree are the true heroes and will be more so going forward

The planet is not dying or overpopulated. Plenty of unexploited resources yet to exploit (phrasing intentional)

Fountaining · 10/07/2021 13:39

@Weebleweeble

Childfree poster extols the wonders of being childfree. But as she hasn't had DCs she doesn't really know. Mother of DCs extols the wonders of bringing another human into the world but now she isn't child free she doesn't really know. Please keep this in mind - you don't know what you haven't done. Don't try to point score as it's pretty meaningless.
I was entirely happily childfree — with absolutely no intention of ever having a child — till the age of 39, when I decided to ttc, and had my son very quickly. He’s 9 now, and though I’m obviously no longer childfree, I’ve still spent far more of my adult life childfree than as a parent, and still have a lot of childfree friends.

Grandstanding by either parents or childfree people is pointless, really. People are only childfree or parents in their own individual ways — there’s no universal experience of either and (ime) limited value in generalisations. I’m delighted I had DS, but my life would have continued fulfilling had I not had him, and obviously this is only my experience of me as a personality and a body parenting my individual child with my specific husband — just as I was childfree in my own specific life circumstances, personality etc.

Twelvetimestwo · 10/07/2021 13:39

[quote GettingUntrapped]@Twelvetimestwo why not tell the children it was utterly miserable suffering bringing them up? I think it's worse not to tell them in case they fall for the bullshit.
You can separate your feelings about motherhood out from the actual incredible slog of bringing them up in a society that says motherhood is the most fulfilling thing you can do (I find it's the opposite), but then once you've popped, your on your own.
And it's an impossible job that leaves many women stuffed
It's the way we bring up children in tiny units that's the problem, not necessarily the children themselves.[/quote]
I would never, ever, want to make my son feel like he was a mistake. I would never want him to feel like his existence caused me to be miserable and to suffer.

What a dreadful thing to say to your own children.

MarshaBradyo · 10/07/2021 13:40

I’m hoping it’s exaggerating for effect

I think it’s off to influence to that extent anyway. The dd might love being a mother, unlike her own.

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