Late October 2020 babies - Support Thread

[Mc3209]

Graduating from Pregnancy forum into Parenting one! I feel almost grown up.

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I am sorry if I missed anyone!

I think I've encountered the horrible sleep regression 🙈 last night Sophia went to bed at 9pm as usual, then she was up again at 12 till 1am, 4-6am and was up again at 7.30am. I'm knackered after being used to her just waking up at 4am🙈Hope this doesn't last long. Anyone else having sleep regression?

@Glooorb thank you. I did the rocking technique this morning and put her back in the next to me. It last 30 mins, but I got a shower and unloaded the washing machine Atleast. She use to fall asleep with light, tv, general daytime noise (which isn’t much as I don’t talk to myself) but think I need to go to darkness, quiet, rocking, to see if I can get one good nap out of her atleast. She is 13 weeks now, and loves being on the go. She will shuffle across her playmat / floor, so think life has just got too interesting for sleep.

@GBA123 glad you’ve had two better nights. Just see if the resettling works with the dummy, but I never leave her for long. If it looks like it’s not going to work, will go make a feed.

@Strawberries4days hope you managed to get a nap today. It hits you like a ton of bricks when they go out of the “norm” I’ve been wondering if we’ve peaked early with sleep regression too. She use to just nap when she was tired, and have a three hour plus nap every afternoon, and sleep through 9pm-8am. Now she’s decided she hates naps, won’t sleep in the day and just fights, and has woke up once in the night (I know I’ve had it lucky, and once isn’t too bad), but the day times are a nightmare. It’s like she is so tired, won’t sleep, so won’t play, walk, settle in the car. I too hope this doesn’t last long.

@DressingGown87 Oh god I know what you mean when they don't nap during the day. It feels like you can't get nothing done! Sophia hardly naps so when I need washing done I just bring her to the kitchen in her bouncer so she's not on her own. I used to nap during the day but felt like I was losing the day to get everything done so I just leave it and stock up on coffee😂 It's such a weird thing for babies to go through, she's even not feeding every two hours today. It's gonna be 3 hours since her last feed but she's napping just now for a change

Ds is having a very rough afternoon, he's not cried this long since when he had colic, calpol and dentinox aren't helping and he has no signs of infection and his only teething sign is drooling so not sure what to do for him as he's refusing his milk for the past 4 hours.

@1990shopefulftm I’m not sure if there’s something in the air today as my little guy is the same. It’s so hard when you try absolutely everything and they’re still crying. Keep doing what you’re doing and eventually he’ll get hungry enough not to refuse his milk, then fingers crossed that will settle him.

Anyone else’s baby started blowing spitting bubbles? The last week he’s doing it, then spitting on my shoulder/himself. It’s gross and I don’t know why he’s doing it 🤦🏼‍♀️😂

@FirstSurprise001 Eventually he took some milk a while after the calpol, he's normally got a brilliant appetite for his age so it was sad to see him off his milk.
DS does spit bubbles, it's a developmental thing apparently

@Strawberries4days I’m the same, coffee is my best friend. You just get to the end of the day and think what the hell have I done today, and realise you’ve just battled over-tiredness all day. She’s been a bit better today, gone back to basics of lights out and taken everything away. So feel like I’ve actually done something, will see how tonight goes, hopefully she knows that was day! Her height hair arrived today, so at least she can sit in the kitchen whilst I cook etc. Hope Sophia has been better today, and had her feed.

@1990shopefulftm glad he’s perked up, and had a feed. They can be so fussy sometimes, and it’s hard when you can’t work out what’s going on. The mystery of babies.

@FirstSurprise001 yes! when it goes down you neck, or in your ear when they are over the shoulder 🙈 constant bubbles and drool. Does he find it funny too? Hope you little man is a little more settled now.

@FirstSurprise001 yes mine drools constantly now and I think he gets overexcited and almost chokes on it sometimes there’s that much so I have to keep my eye on him!!

Does anyone know, at what age should I be careful about what I watch on the telly with baby in the room? I don't put him in front of TV intentionally, but I do have crime series on in the background that I am binge watching with one eye. Since he is more alert and aware now, I don't want to scar him for life 😂

@mc3209 I don't know but I'm also worried about that! DP playing war games too.

I'm starting to implement a more fixed bedtime routine, we usually all go to bed around 10, is it too late to do bath and book etc at 9.30? Should I be doing itearlier in the evening? If so do you go to bed at the same time then?

@GhostWorld we normally do bath between 8 and half 8 then bottle and bed. DS is then normally asleep between 9 and half 9. we then go back downstairs for an hour to an hour and a half. I know a lot of people arent comfortable leaving them but we have a monitor and can literally see him breathing on it. it also has an alarm that sounds if there is no moving and I feel that hour downstairs chilling really helps me especially if it's been a tough day

@Krissy12 possibly would leave DS as he is super still when he sleeps but he isn't yet sleeping separately to us, if I put him down and move away he instantly wakes up haha

@GhostWorld we started doing it because DS wasnt lasting much later he was getting over tired downstairs with us but for the first couple of weeks we would need to go upstairs a few times to settle him or put his dummy back in but now hes used to it it's rare we need to go back up

@GhostWorld I do bath 7.30, lights out from 8, with a feed, put down at 8.30. I’ve slowly worked it earlier, use to be down at 10.00, then 9.00. With the aim of slowly getting it to down at 7.30 before she goes in her own room. I’ve set my laptop up
On my dressing table, so usually just work in the room when she’s gone down. I do have a monitor too, if I go do jobs like the washing machine, dishwasher etc, but I don’t usually leave the room for longer than 10minutes. Some nights I do just watch tv in bed, with the sound low, and it doesn’t seem to bother her. I don’t think there is any harm in doing bath later on, and then going to bed at 10. It gets them into the routine of not going back downstairs, and then you can slowly move that forward as you feel comfortable.
The advice my MW gave me was it’s not the time you do the routine, it’s the process of the routine, so it gives them the cues they need.

Starting to worry about DS head control, he can hold it up for a good few seconds if I m holding his back when he sits up but he's only managed to get it 45 degrees on his tummy twice whereas I see other 10 week olds can do it properly, I know I m extra paranoid as he might have developmental coordination disorder like me just seems strange as he's met other milestone's early or on time just not doing so well with this.

Thank you, that's reassuring!

We're in bed by 8 with bottle etc and then I sit and watch Netflix or mooch with earphones on. Husband brings me a brew every now and then and tbh I quite like the quiet after a day of home schooling the eldest.

Is anyone else struggling go find a daytime routine? Although I guess it is quite early still (10 weeks). Day time naps are still on me and if I transfer to swing or pram, they're cut prematurely short!!

@1990shopefulftm if your worried I would speak to your HV. They can all reach different milestones at different stages, and I’m sure they can offer you some advice.

@Monkeyseesmonkeydoesnt Yes! Nighttime isn’t an issue, she will go to bed. So I’m thankful for that. Paige will get so grumpy and overtired most days because she won’t nap. She will have the odd 15-25mins here and there. But today she’s only had 20mins since she got up at 8. Try putting her down, on me, or getting her to sleep after a x amount of awake time, but she just laughs and then cries 😂 on the days she does her “nap routine” she is like a different child.

@DressingGown87 he's meeting all his others so hopefully he's going to get there, could just be how massive his 98 percentile head is. I can't actually remember our HVs name as we ve met just once, I ll look up her details.
@Monkeyseesmonkeydoesnt I don't follow a routine at all really, he's naturally settling into 3 daytime naps that are similar times. But he will be okay being transferred into his reclining chair or his crib most of the time, just have to be very gentle and keep some background noise as he doesn't like silence during the day.

I've been trying out Huckleberry app, it's supposed to give you a sweet spot to put them down for a nap before they get too exhausted. Reviews tend to swear by it, I'm not too convinced just yet, but given that it's free it's worth a try.

@Monkeyseesmonkeydoesnt the only guaranteed nap we have in the day is 2 hours after wake up. But given that wake up can be anything from 7:30-8:30 it’s never a definite time. He’s 12 weeks on Saturday and I know we should probably start some sort of routine but on the other hand, given we’re in lockdown and not going anywhere, I don’t really see the rush. As long as there’s a routine in the evening so I can get some ‘us’ time that’s all that matters to me.

@Mc3209 we use the huckleberry app, mainly because im terrible At working out what I have done at what time! It’s amazing! It’s spot on for naps 99% of the time, I feel like the app knows the baby better than I do 😂

@Monkeyseesmonkeydoesnt I don’t really have a daytime routine and given we’re in lockdown and nowhere to go, I’m not giving myself a hard time about it either...my DS has just gone 12 weeks and is all of a sudden putting up a fight to get to sleep in the day even though it is clear he is tired. I just persevere with a lot of rocking and swaying and singing lol and eventually he goes down...he’s in a worse mood when tired so I’d prefer to push for the naps. I’m just embracing him sleeping on me as when I put him down he will have about the half time he’d have on me eg this morning did 45 minutes in his Moses and woke up in a bad mood. On me, he will have about two hours in the morning and then a couple more anywhere between 1-2 hours in the afternoon before 6pm. The only ‘routine’ I’d say I have is when he has a nap around 4pm, we’ll go upstairs and I lie with him in my bed and read a few books above our head so he can see them and until this week will drift off but today I’ve had to pick him up again to rock him a bit...anyway I tend to get about half an hour sleep as well at this point with him. I keep telling myself he’s literally 12 weeks old and I can’t expect him to be in some brilliant routine so am going with what feels natural...might shoot myself in the foot for later down the line but we will see!! Are you letting him just nap on you or pushing for him to sleep elsewhere? I have a friend who is already trying to train them to nap in their own cot during their day and I just feel like I’m not prepared to let the snuggles go and he’s too little to leave on his own upstairs all that time!!

I'm going to check out the huckleberry app. A routine or a least napping not on me would make life a bit easier at the moment. I've a 5yr old who needs help with home schooling and giving him my fill attention is hard. Plus lockdown is starting tovwesr quite thin. He had a tantrum today out in the street for the first time in about 2yrs.. I think he needs some mummy time too!

Alf does sleep in the pram on walks and sometimes in his swing for 15/20 mins but nothing substantial

I used huckleberry app for two days last week, and sweet spot, it worked well. But throw in a dentist appointment, work call, and it went out the window. So will try again.
I wasn’t too fussed about daytime routine, we just went with the flow, but now that spontaneous sleep has gone out the window, need to try form some routine, as the over-tiredness is getting to us both. I try getting Paige to sleep on me, but she just wakes up shortly after. If she goes down in her pram, chair etc... she can go for hours!

She had 40minutes sleep today (2x20min naps). Been snoring away since going to bed at 8 though.