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Dilemma with husband smacking teen

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DutchSmartie · 20/01/2018 11:32

Hi, i'm new here and don't know who to turn to for advice.

My husband is ordinarily a very lovely man. Our friends think he's fantastic. However when he gets angry (and his moods can be brittle), he often says and does things that are very inappropriate. He has astonishingly poor emotional control at times.

So on the odd occasion when he is angry at our daughter, who is 15 now, he has lashed out at her. She is quite mouthy and doesnt back down easily, but whenever this has happened, I've addressed it - its not okay, he should never lash out at her or anyone etc but he is usually furious back - i never support him in arguments, he barely touched her, she's over-reacting to get attention etc. I've witnessed him slap her, push her hard against the wall, and kick her hard enough off the bed for her to fall heavily on the floor. He never ever apologises to her, or admits his behaviour was inappropriate. I've talked to her about it, and that while he should apologise, he almost certainly is ashamed of his behaviour, and that he is a product of his own upbringing, and the est she can hope for is to learn from it for when she becomes a parent. But it feels woefully inadequate. If i broach it with him, he gets angry, accuses me (an her) of being a liar, and of fabricating these events.

Lately, whenever he taps her or brushes her aside when he's annoyed, she becomes mouthy, shouts to take his hands off her and to stop hitting her. Invariably he becomes furious at her accusations, and punishes her in some way like cutting off her internet, taking her phone, banning her from a party. If i haven't witnessed these events, only the shouty aftermath, I can't really comment on whether his behaviour on those occasions was or was not appropriate.

The problem is that he then turns his anger on me for not backing him up. Apparently i should be equally cross at our daughter for making these 'false accusations'. The fact that i didn't see the event doesn't come into it. If i make the mistake of saying that, hence implying that in fact he could have hit, smacked or otherwise hurt her, or remind him that he has in fact done so in the past, he threatens to leave me for emotional abuse, sleeps elsewhere, sulks etc.

Meanwhile my daughter is furious at being punished for something she hasn't done - ie her dad got mad and lashed out at her and is now punishing her (as well as the silent fury and sulking). She's furious at me for not taking her side, for not making him apologise for lashing out at her, for not undoing the punishment.

I have no idea how to deal with this. I don't want to undermine him and his relationship with her further. I hate it that he lashes out when cross, verbally and physically. I hate it that he has no respect for her physical boundaries, and even pushing her or her hand away is not okay if she says its not okay. i hate that i'm being made to not support her in feeling that she can set these boundaries, or that if they are crossed she must stay silent and take the punishment so as not to set him off further. I cant talk to him about it without him becoming angry and accusing me of lying, and I have no idea what to say to her about it.

Please help :(

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GingerIvy · 20/01/2018 15:54

As an adult, it is HIS responsibility to maintain the calm in the situation.

This is why I left my ex, as he became abusive towards our dc. You don't hang around for him to straighten himself out. You tell him to leave. Or you leave. SS expect you to protect your child. If you don't, they will consider you part of the problem.

LemonysSnicket · 20/01/2018 16:02

So he’s beating his daughter when he gets mad?

I’d be leaving him with my daughter alongside me tbh. Disgusting behaviour... she’ll have some major issues as an adult thanks to the abuse she’s suffering.

BoneyBackJefferson · 20/01/2018 16:04

You need to adjust your attitude to what is happening.

He is assaulting her.

she is not getting mouthy or however you want to describe it she is rightly furious at being assaulted.

Either leave him or lose her.

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gillybeanz · 20/01/2018 16:06

I can't believe you are encouraging your child's father to physically abuse her.
You are encouraging him by not protecting her by leaving him. Something you should have done years ago.
Your poor daughter has no parents on her side, you are just as much to blame as he is.
You stand by and watch him do this, and should be ashamed of yourself.

Wolfiefan · 20/01/2018 16:10

He never admits he has messed up.
He hasn't done this once. He has assaulted your child multiple times.
Why on earth haven't you kicked him out and informed the police? You need to stand up to this man and be a parent. Show your daughter that violence isn't the answer to conflict and that she deserves better.

PeterPiperPickedSeaShells · 20/01/2018 16:12

I very much doubt he will move out. I suspect the "packing his bags " was for show to "scare" you

blueskypink · 20/01/2018 16:13

In your shoes I'd be helping him pack.

EnglandKeepMyBones · 20/01/2018 16:13

You absolutely are condoning his behaviour, make no mistake there. Every time you allow him to stay when your daughter is trying to establish boundaries with her abuser, you condone his behaviour.

You're despicable.

DriggleDraggle · 20/01/2018 16:20

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Clutterbugsmum · 20/01/2018 16:31

I'm sorry but you are more abusive then your H to your DD as you are continuing to condone hid treatment of her because he is not doing it to YOU.

YOU are coming across as selfish person who only thinks about HERSELF.

In your words.

  1. The problem is that he then turns his anger on ME for not backing him up.

No the PROBLEM is he is abusing your DD.

  1. I cant talk to him about it without him becoming angry and accusing me of lying, and I have no idea what to say to her about it.

YOU tell him to leave, YOU phone the police about the assault HE has committed on your DD.

  1. He's never hit or hurt me. Well bully for you, it shame you dd and probably other children won't be able to say the same.

  2. It may never happen again, or it may. which planet are you on, of course it will happen again, and again as YOU will not get YOUR head out of your arse and protect your children, because he doesn't HURT YOU.

YOU will lose all of your children as soon as they are able to leave home and then have a very limited relationship with them due to your lack of protecting them from the father.

Bollooooooocks · 20/01/2018 16:32

It's difficult situation OP and you've been clearly brain washed in to not thinking straight.
Start by standing up to him, abusers go for weak victims, show you're not one of them. He ll think twice about doing it if you say the right thing at the right time with the right tone.... it's shit situation but you can do it for your DD, wishing you the best Flowers

AnyFucker · 20/01/2018 16:35

Nope and nope again to the last 2 messages

  1. op is not worse than her h

  2. she cannot control this situation by "saying the right thing at the right time"

He, or she, needs to leave. That is all.

ineedwine99 · 20/01/2018 16:37

He’s a complete wanker! If husband did that to our daughter he’d be out, probably with a black eye and busted balls, i’m also sure his mum would go nuts at him. That is no way to treat your child.
You and your daughter need to be away from him asap

Glitterandunicorns · 20/01/2018 16:37

OP, please leave your husband. Your daughter needs you to support and protect her, not to allow her father to abuse her. This is what's going on here, no matter what terminology you use.

IvorBiggun · 20/01/2018 16:38

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HappyHedgehog247 · 20/01/2018 16:43

You're not being 'made' not to support your daughter. You are choosing not to support someone being physically abused.

Please please don't let it happen again.

Follyfoot · 20/01/2018 16:44

I'm a survivor of domestic violence and understand how hard it can be for an abused woman to leave a violent man. I cannot however understand how a woman can observe a violent man attacking her child. And then do nothing....

One parent in the family needs to keep the children safe. It isn't going to be him, it MUST be you. A healthcare organisation I once worked for drilled this into staff: " 'the standard you walk past is the standard you accept'. It is very relevant in this situation.

why12345 · 20/01/2018 17:18

Wow. I feel like we should be telling your daughter to pack her bags and get out to go somewhere safe!

PoorYorick · 20/01/2018 17:26

OP yes he’s wrong however he’s human and anyone who has their buttons possibly pushed would react. It’s a two way thing... I feel for him and understand him as someone who cannot stand people running their mouth at me; it can make me see red!

Shut up, get lost and never, ever have a relationship with anyone or, worse still, have a child.

bastardkitty · 20/01/2018 17:29

Hear hear @PoorYorick

GingerIvy · 20/01/2018 17:32

anyone who has their buttons possibly pushed would react

The problem here is not that he reacts...it's HOW he reacts.

A mature adult would react by taking a few minutes to calm down, by backing off long enough to regroup, by talking reasonably and calmly to their child/teen... most importantly, by recognising that they are getting agitated and by calming the situation.

A mature adult would NOT react with violence.

princesssparkle1 · 20/01/2018 18:56

Oh
My
God

You are allowing him to abuse your child.

What the fucking hell is the matter with you?

Get rid of the cunt. He is a bad bad person.

Or are you just making all this up for attention @DutchSmartie ?

Owlettele · 20/01/2018 18:58

Hold the door wide open and change the locks. Anyone so much as looked at dd wrong they would be shown the door.

TheDowagerCuntess · 20/01/2018 19:03

My husband is ordinarily a very lovely man. Our friends think he's fantastic.

He's about as far from being a 'lovely man' as it's possible to be. He's violent.

It doesn't matter what your friends think, since they're obviously don't know the half of it. Do you think if they read this thread, and knew the truth, they'd still think he's 'fantastic'?

KindDogsTail · 20/01/2018 19:07

I've witnessed him slap her, push her hard against the wall, and kick her hard enough off the bed for her to fall heavily on the floor. He never ever apologises to her, or admits his behaviour was inappropriate.

This is really bad, horrible behaviour. It is not just being bad tempered. How can you possibly let this go on? What on earth are you doing letting him treat your daughter this way?

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