June Babies - come out, come out, wherever you are...

[Skara]

Hoping this might tempt fate on the June list and produce some more June babies

XenaWp - sorry, wasn't ignoring you - thanks for the tip. I am going shopping today so I may buy some tea tree oil and try it.

Karen - he's so cute! Especially the one where he looks like he's attacking you when you're asleep. I've sneaked onto May's thread and saw that they were doing pictures and was going to try myself as I have loads of pics on my computer, so watch this space!

I had a visit fro the HV 'police' yesterday but luckily Alex has finally put on weight at a faster rate than before - 1.5lbs in 2 weeks. He also had his 2nd lot of injections and was fine. He even did a 9-hour sleep that night for the first time. Now he seems to be going between 5.5 - 7.5 hours for the first part of the night and then is a bit more of a fitful sleeper after that. This morning for the first time at about 5am he decided to do some cooing and growling but seem happy enough although obviously I couldn't sleep with the noise! I still haven't tried him in his grobag cos it suddenly got so much warmer but maybe tonight's the night?

And he's definitely now at the being able to grab things and put them in his mouth stage.

Where is everyone else??

Whew - thought I'd killed the thread and you'd all crept off without me...

Karen - lovely, lovely pics, made me go all gooey and want to do it again never thought before birth that i'd say that. just goes to show.

DH decided this w/e was time to invite over all friends we've not seen since dd's birth. not sure what personality type he is (did any of you see that BBC programme?) but I suspect something like Big Thinker. He invited everyone so BBQ at his parents house (who're away, but have big garden) but didn't sort out access to house until late Saturday!
oops, he's just come in, must send this or he'll get hightly offended by my 'talking' about him

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I just wanted to ask if anyone else has had really stiff/sore feet and hands since giving birth? It's really only in the morning or after a nap, I've got arthritis in the family & it might be that, but wondered if it might be a hormone/BF thing or just a sleep deprived thing? stiff ankles, finger joints, I walk like I'm 60 when I 1st get up.
familiar to anyone?

DD1 has finally started nursery today after 8 long long weeks. I love her to death but am so glad she is back as she needs alot of entertaining. But it's the end/beginning of an era for me as it's her first morning sessions which I guess in about 1.5 years or less will lead to school so it's good that I'm getting used to early (ish) mornings.

Secur - Thank God you're ok. I was worried that something had gone wrong tbh. Hope you're able to post again another time.

XenaWP - most people think they're threadkillers so never fear. This has always been quite a quiet thread tbh. I worry occasionally about hogging it but mostly think what the hell. I hope your dh did most of the work but that you had a good bbq - now that's something I haven't been to for a long long time (don't seem to have many friends with gardens). And no, sorry I have no knowledge of postpegnancy stiff joints but I have heard of others developing something. It's probably worth searching the archives on MN or starting a new thread as everyone here is very helpful and there's a wealth of knowledge and experience. Good luck!

Hello All,

Secur - how nice to hear from you and pleased all is well. Pop back soon.

Dh on hoiday but we never did manage to get finger out and get an actual 'holiday' arranged so having a nice time pottering about at home. Maybe for October break...

All well, Lily still thriving and generally remains cute. Could even, almost just about contemplate another - right just slapped myself there.

I start back to Uni next week which I am quite looking forward to but so pleased not going back to work until Jan at earliest. One afternoon/evening a week is enough for anyone at the moment. Poverty is now beckoning at a rapid rate too - only SMP from work now and that is not a lot - so should perhpas have said definately January above. Also looked at a nursery yesterday which was quite appaling and absolutely filthy. I am no domestic goddess but it was awful. Quick exit from there - with Dh saying well not that bad... Eh??? Also asked there opinion on washable nappies and was told that they couldn't possibly contemplate them as unhygenic... I was going to phone the manager.

Top quality on Alex's weight gain, MG that's the way boy.

Right off to wander around the park in this glorious sunshine. Bye all.

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thanks for tip, Monkeygirl, found thread from June all about stiff joints - seems quite common & should go variously after finish bf or 6 to 8 months, whichever is 1st

XenaWP - glad you found something - people on MN seem to have had everything imaginable!

Secur - no 5!!!! I cannot even begin to imagine having 4 let alone more although my DH seems more keen than me at the moment on no 3. What is it with everyone wanting another? Must be some residual hormones in all of us. XenaWP - ready for no 2 yet hee hee.

Alex is easier than dd was and loves being cuddled as opposed to comforted. The first half of the night is also fine now (6 hours last night) but he is always unsettled after that and wakes every 2 hours or finds it difficult to go back to sleep even though he is obviously tired. Haven't figured that one out yet. Had his grobag on for the first time last night but when he came into bed with us for a feed it was like having a mermaid thrashing its tail around!

Secur - I have bored everyone with my bfing woes as Alex turned into a nightmare day-feeder so top-ups have become mixed feeding. But now that I've done it we are both happier and actually it has freed me up to do more with dd1 who was being somewhat neglected.

Gomez - sorry your holiday didn't quite come off but just means there's one to look forward to which is half the fun of them isn't it??

Just being nosey - what do you put your babes during the day? Mine is mostly on the sofa nesting in my bfing cushion and occasionally in his bouncy chair but he gets tired of that quite quickly. He also likes his playgym but again only for a bit. Anyone going to try one of those bumbo things?

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Ah Secur, it's good to have you back! Do not talk to Gomez and Cavy who are well on their way or are already slinky . I am as big as a house still, wish I could afford to join my gym again but with creche fees it's impossible at the moment but at least now that dd is back at nursery I can get some good walking in again.

As for weaning, I don't think I will hold out until 6 months unless Alex is really not interested, which I seriously doubt, but I'm on holiday at the end of the month and then going away again for a week soon after so I will probably try and wait until the 5 month mark.

And here I am still wasting time so must go 1)clean baby sick off my boobs (how pleasant that is - not) and 2) go pick up dd and make the most of the last summer day.

I thought I read that hypothyroidism can cause stiff joints... maybe?
N. got weighed today -- 13 lb 8oz. He's dropped right through the percentiles (now about 50th %). You just look at him U can see he'll be long & lean (like his daddy).

He woke me up twice last night to A) fart, or B) poop!

I think I found a wonderful childminder so can start thinking about going back to work -- woohoo! I was beginning to despair because I didn't like any of the nurseries or they didn't take babies, and most of the good childminders were already full, etc. I can't say how relieved I am... just keep looking, Gomez. I am going to try the eco-disp... Moltex Oko? for the childminder, at least until DS is on solids. The Childminder said she thought she could handle cloth ok (she doesn't mind poop, her exact quote was "I have dogs!"), but I don't know if she really knows what a curry paste blow out is like from a 6 month old.

I really want to make it to 6 months before solids, but that's what I said with the others and I didn't even make it to 4 months with them (bad mummy alert...) Maybe 3rd time lucky...?

Secur -- NUMBER FIVE? What are you on, woman? I'm on the (18 month long ) list to be sterilised. I just do not how you cope... I get really down some days, exhausted & frazzled, and I only have 3.

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ooh glad you're back secur, hi`all
have had in laws visiting for fortnight hence silence...will read and catch up and post tomorrow. am looking forward to being back!

Well I know there seems to be some quirk on this thread that most of the June babies seem to be sleeping through, but last night ds went to bed at 8:15, only woke for one feed at 4pm, happily went back in his cot and slept until 7am. It may not happen again but it was nice to experience it once .

don't worry monkeygirl, my dd isn't sleeping through yet. she only has once but usually goes about 8 hours then quick feed and back to sleep. Excpet the last few days she has been quite unsettled and keeps waking up - not for a feed but for her stupid dummy. At least thats what I think cos once i pop it in and give her a put or quick cuddle shes off again. dd1 was the same at this age and we took her dummy away,. it involved a few days of crying at sleep times but was pretty quick really. Not sure what to do this time as just don't have the time to comfort her and endure the crying with dd1 around. so still haven't decided a course of action. Will give her more time to see if she settles down.
This week dd1 has been getting a 2 year molar. She has been very intense and grumpy. Its been fun - not!
As for weaning - at this point I am aiming for 6 months (waited til then with dd1 and she was still not really into it for a bit). Incidentlly - how many feeds are most babies having at this age now? We're down to 5-6 a day now (per 24hours).
As for you girls thinking of having more babies! Especially you Secur - 5???!!! Well you must all be 'supermums' cos there is no way I could cope with another I am sure !
Anyway, good to hear from all you girls - keep updating us.

Cathncait, I'm using dummy this time round (didn't with dd1)because he is suck a 'sucky' baby. Ds has definitely cut down using it since turning 12 weeks, and usually only 'needs' it at bedtime or occasionally during the day for a quick suck after a feed (he then spits it out). Am interested to hear that you dropped it at this age with dd. Do you or anyone know if babies this young often get out of the habit themselves or is it 'once bitten, always smitten'(could be a question for the MN wise council that one)?

At least he did 9 hours last night and one quick feed at 5am - woo-hoo. Actually read somewhere that 6 hours is counted as sleeping through so we are there Cathncait! Sadly I still wake up several times a night wondering if he's going to wake up . But atm he is grinning away at and cooing to at dd1's Baby Tad (God how I hate that toy). Aah his first friend.

Oh and I am still doing about 5-7 feeds a day (mixed feeding).

MG, I think that some babies do just get sick of the dummy or lose interest. But saying that i feel pretty sure that mine wouldn't have. The only reason I got rid of it with dd1 and probably this time too is cos i don't see the point waking up to put a dummy in - it really frustrates me. I really don't kow how i will cope with the restless few days it will take - the crying . (Just incase anyone thinks I'm a mean mum - i don't intend to leave her to cry till she falls asleep...I will cudle her but she will still cry a lot) But she really 'needs' it to go to sleep and i want her to learn a better way. If I can handle it.
Have had a few bad nights as a result of all this so hopefully we can get it sorted. I may just try the softly, softly approach - taking the dummy out just before she nods off till she gets better at it. Oh I don't know what I'm doing!
And teething! I won't get started! its a madhouse around here!

HI Welcome back Secure.
cathncait- Scott is on formula - 4 feeds in 24hrs of 7 oz. Still going 12hrs. Not sure when to start weening, he is still on the first milk and gaining weight nicley last week he had gained 1lb 3oz in a week he now weighs 12lb8oz.
At the momnent he will watch every mouthful that we take, opening and closing his mouth. Bless. However I am staring to wonder do they actually start getting bored with the milk, I know they don't know anybetter but they can smel the food we eat, surley they must start thinking to themselves " I want a bit of that" I guess it is something we will never truly know the answer to.

DH is missing DD and DS lots and is getting really peed off with missing more of Scott, oh well only another 2 weeks and he will be home, I thikn if they send him away again this year i will scream really loudly and I will be very .

Ohh and get this for my pushchair saga.
M&P fixed the pram but are charging us for the repair (which we were not told about before the work was done), but as far as I am concerned it is a manufacturing fault as it was some of the plastic casing that had melted!!! in the sun. So surely this is due to substansive materials (or am I wrong advice please) But as i questioned this with the lady on the phone she replied "Mrs i am not going to lye to you but at the moment our main issue is to find your pushchair as at the moment the courier seems to have lost it" I have asked what will happen if it is not found but have to wait another 7days before a claim can be put in then will have to wait 7-10days for that to be processed before i get the go ahead to get a new pram, by that time DH will be back out here and M&P won't post it to me out here. But really want to stick with pushchair as I ghave the car seat, carrycot , sunshade, bag etc for that pushchair.

Also when DH took it to be repaired the shop told him he had to pay £35 so the pram cou;d be serviced, ffs the thing was 9weeks old at the time please. I can't believe he doidn't argue with them. Even if the pram was older though as it was going in for reapair I would expect the servicing to be free.
Re the plastic melting do any of you agree that the material used were substansive ( lots of M&P prams out here and they all seem OK so I think it was a dodgy pushchair, were do I stand in having it out with them. I told you everything seems to go tits up for me just when I thimks everything is going OK. aaaagggghhhh.

Wow Karen that is really bad - In my opinion they should fix it for nothing and bend over backwards to do so. If it can't be in the sun what the hell is it good for?? I would stick to my guns if I were you! Sounds like you got a bit of a dud and they should fix it free!
As for weaning - it seems so strange to be thinking about it already - I just feel like they're soooo little still. I don't know if they get bored with milk but defineatley get more and more curious about what we're eating I think! Babies are so nosey!

Karen - the pram is definitely not old enough for you to be going through this. And M&P charge enough for their stuff so you'd expect good service with good quality. Stick at it girl, they're just trying to wriggle out of it. And when have you ever seen a warning on a pram saying you shouldn't take it out in the sun ffs? Poor you, just what you need when dh is away again. At least Scott is such a good sleeper . But Alex isjust waking up once a night which is fine by me.

Cathncait - I may and try and get rid of the dummy soon as well then, although ds has lost some interest in it. I don't have to put it in in the night at all, thank God, although that usually because he gets a boob stuffed in his mouth .

Hello, a little flurry of activity over the weekend from you lot. Once again not alot to report at this end. We are well, having fun and generally I feel a bit boring!

DH had a terrible 'cold' at the end of last week and ended up with inhalers from emergency doc as he could hardly breathe, how could you confuse a cold with a pretty bad chest infection! Much better today thou. Went for a stroll, had some friends around for a big roast dinner and lit the stove for the first time in months - lovely!! (Oops someone asked before if we lived in the country and I forgot to answer that no we don't - we are right in the centre of town but had a wood burning stove installed last year and have great fun with it.)

Have a busy week ahead, DH back at work, Uni on Thursday, trip to Glasgow on Wednesday, friends for dinner on Friday and then out with NCT Group on Saturday - all go, go, go!

Diet has not been so good this week with DH being around, lots of eating out and snacks but hey ho still feeling better about the whole lardy thing as I can pretty much get into all my clothes - even those that were a bit tight before pregnancy so quite chuffed. But not boasting as I am sure I have an unfair advantage feeding Buddah Baby (currently weighing in at 17lb 2oz). I might consider expressing milk for the next 10/15 years just to keep it up!!

Karen that pram saga sounds a nightmare and I think you could argue a case under the Sale of Goods Act and a purchase requiring to be fit for purpose. I would argue strongly that all costs incurred are met by M & P. Are you dealing with M & P direct or your supplier? If the later I would contact M & P or if dealing with them I would esculate to the next level of management.

Cathncait - I must admit to dreading the whole teething thing. After thinking DD1 was teething from about 3 months she was 8.5 months before her first tooth and it then took until she was nearly 3 before they all came through. Each one caused much pain, sore bottom (to the extent of open sores/blisters that required anti-biotics) you have my deepest sympathy it is a bloody nightmare.

MG on the dummy front I have had a few friends who used them and of that group one dropped it at 12 weeks without too much hassle. I have never heard of a baby 'giving' it up I must admit so not sure if that would/could happen. Good Luck.

right of for a cuddle before bed.

Bye all

Well we must have adapted to the weather as I actually put scott unto a pair of denim dungarees this morning, the temp was 26degrees and he was shivering bless. Even DD was moaning on the way to school that she was cold!!. It made me laugh as in the UK she would have been "I don't need a Jumper mummy it is far too hot" The temperature is dropping here everynight, I am noticing a drop, it is 20.20 here at mo and is 26degrees, last week it would have been 30degrees at this time.