June Babies - come out, come out, wherever you are...

[Skara]

Hoping this might tempt fate on the June list and produce some more June babies

Gomez, am chortling enormously at the thought of the house of chaos being thought of as chilled out . And Karen I am v impressed that you're online already...hope you're not boiling as it's so hot here I can only imagine how hot it is in Cyprus.

Cathncait, I meant to say last night that I'm really pleased your dh is doing so well

Oh and Gomez, Lily and Jude are exactly the same size - what size of clothes is she in? He seems to be in some newborn but some are even 3-6 due to his long back. Has very stumpy wee legs though (like his mother, sadly)

Skara it all sounds kinds chilled out to me - well perhaps casual and relaxed would be a better description! (That was one of my mums phrases to describe the bedlam she encountered at my sisters!) Not quite sure what it means to be fair but sounds kinda nice!

Lily is a 3 to 6 month girl all-round on the clothes front. And spookily enough a bit of a puker too, isn't life sweet.

Right holiday ideas please - had though about going to Cornwall but can't find any good accomodation. Am happy to consider anywhere, home or abroad, so what are your recommendations?

Bye

Gomez - I hope your dh is giving you a well-earned break. Even if your DD1 sounds like an angel it's hard work isn't it. Alex turned into a bit more of a whinger this week as well - don't know if it's the weather, my mood or an age thing. I'm hoping it's only a short phase, although he still has those melt-you-heart smiling and cooing moments (I needed them this week I can tell you). And yes I know I should chill out more about bfing and possibly give up but there is still that little voice in my head telling me I will have cheated him if I don't try for a few more weeks anyway. As for dieting, what's really panicked me is the fact that I will have a college reunion with some really old mates in October and whilst I know they won't care about what I look like, I wouldn't mind being slightly less of a hefferlump. I also need to fit into some old clothes.

Skara - I think you sound chilled out as well - um anyone thinking of a 4th yet already .

Karen - well done on remembering that the most important thing in life is an internet connection . How hot is it over there? Missing England at all?

Holidays eh? I've read so much about Centerparcs on here and else where that we are going to risk a few days at Elvedon in September, cos we can also combine it with a few days in Norfolk with the ILs. And it does sound very child/baby friendly. There's also a few very child friendly hotels in Dorset - do you know the ones I mean? Sorry will write more another time but Alex has got himself into a state.

Take care.

It is very hot over here it is 2.40 am at the mo and still and has cooled to 20 defgrees, which is nice and refreshing. iT is just so humid all the time , even at this time I am sweating just sitting doing nothing. I have fans on in all the rooms. If I carry on sweating tlike this I should lose my weight fairly quickly ( I hope .

Some freinds of DH are taking DD to the beach later today so that DH and I can get the unpacking done as at the mo upstairs is like a disaster area. I have been too busyt shopping spending DH money .

It is our 1st wedding anniversary on Monday so I think we will be going out again ofr a meal with the children. But Scott just has a feed at about 8 pm then goes to sleep till about 5am, but will have to take something to take DD amused as at the moment all I seem to be hearing is " I am bored" "What can I do?", despite the fact that she can go to the psark at anyoint as I can see it very clearly from the back garden and keep an eye on her. I think she is just wanting all gher toys and bike that she hasn't had for the last 8 months bless. She has been through alot in the past 12months. Mummy getting married , a new baby brother and 3 moves, bless her.

Ohh just found out the other day ( get this) DH has to go back to the UK on Sept 4th for a 3week course!!!!! [pissed off face] I am starting to feel like a single mum all over again.

Better get to bed hope you are all ok. Will take more time over the next few weeks to read the threads and catch up.

xx

ooops all the spelling mistakes and I was the driver tonight!!

HI everyone -- we have also just moved house so basically most of what Skara said on that subject applies to me, too.

oNE-TO-one time with baby? Hahaha... isn't that's what Cbeebies is for. i feel guiltiest about my middle child who is quiet and undemanding & gets easily overlooked. I have shipped the eldest (4yo) off to a holiday club several days a week and I still don't give the middle one as much attention as I think I ought to. I think I may get a cleaner, too, to hopefully make more time for being a mummy.

I don't know what N. weighs now I can't face trekking to the baby clinic! But he's been in 3-6 month clothes for a few weeks. He's not plump, I think, so much as long he needs 3-6m for the cloth nappies, but legs got too long for the 0-3m size, too. I'm using terries at home and some shaped nappies when out and about, but I don't know what they're called, though.

We don't do routine outside of term (or even in term, very much)... I just try to keep the older kids to a consistent(ish) bedtime. N. is suddenly sleeping less & more wakeful. He is happy to lie nappy free most of his waking time, thankfully he's not too demanding.

When I get v. stressed I actually forget to eat -- so no comfort eating problems here, and my usual clothes are slowly starting to fit me again. Downside is, I deal with the stress by having a glass (or 2) of wine most nights. Naughty, naughty breastfeeding mummy...

MG: Sorry to hear br'feeding is so rough for you.

Karen: I am very impressed by your quick internet connection, we've been here a week and only just got dial-up working!
I wonder if you could try expressing some milk and giving that alongside formula, just to get started, I mean? I think you're supposed to express while cuddling the baby to get the hormones flowing(?)

Cavy - nice to hear from you! Sorry but I didn't realise you were moving house as well. Are some of you ladies addicted to stress or something? New baby, moving house/country...I'm finding the holidays stressful enough.

But today had a fab morning. I 'escaped' from my family and went on a 4-mile walk whilst listening to some of my fav music, then came back and had an ice-cold beer. Bliss. Alex started screaming yet again at a feed, so I gave in and experimented with a formula top-up. He took it no probs, was smiley and alert after and didn't cry, and then went to sleep (still is) without fussing or needing a dummy. Hmm, what does it all mean? I shall see how the rest of today and tomorrow goes but if the screaming continues I might try mixed feeding, if it makes him a happy baby and me an eventually happier mummy (still feel guilty about the 4ozs formula he had today).

Gomez - I forgot you lived in Scotland so you might not want to go too far?? How about somewhere like Woolley Grange? But then Sardinia is meant to be lovely and very child-friendly (mind you most of Italy is tbh). Had any more ideas?

Right must go check the boy is ok.

Right, finally got round to updating this list, mostly because I keep forgetting the details so here goes:

Skara 30/5 boy 8lb 1/2oz
Monkeygirl 10/6 boy 10lb 1oz
Gomez 12/6 girl 10lb 10oz
Bogwoppit 13/6 girl 8lb 2oz
Cavy 17/6 boy 8lb 11oz
Karen 19/6 boy 6lb 15oz
Cathncait 30/6 girl 8lbs
Secur 30/6 girl ?
Niceglasses 3/7 girl ?

Have I got that all right? Looking back at the June thread all the dates are mixed up so apologies for any mistakes I've made.

NG, what was your baby's weight?

What happened to Scampadoodle and Littlelamb?

And where is Secur - thought she would be a regular poster definitely so I hope all is ok.

Cavy - your prediction really was spookily accurate and you were only 2ozs out on the weight.

Skara - after I said how fab the bedside cot was I had to stop using it with the side down cos Alex has now learnt to roll over and slither like a snake right to the edge so it doesn't feel safe enough, although he still sleeps at my side. Has Jude made any escape attempts yet?

MG: Alex isn't even 10 weeks old and already rolling?! Wow! I was amzed that Nicky can already get onto his side (only with nappy off, though). I think he'll roll and talk early... he's really vocal. Seems to recognise when we are copying the noises he makes and tries to talk back.
About the mixed feeding -- I think that might be a really good solution for you. Friends have mixed fed from as young as 3 days old until 14 months, could have gone on longer if they wanted. , whatever you end up doing.

Thanks Cavy. I gave him 4oz formula today as well and it just makes all the difference to him being in a much more contented mood for the day and more likely to be better at the later feeds. I'm getting used to the idea of him having some formula and, as someone said on another thread, will think of it as 'dessert' that is an addition and not a replacement for breastfeeding, well for a bit anyway.

I think Alex is desperate to be on the move like his sister was and she walked at 10 months, so I bet he'll be similar.

It's nice when they 'talk' to you isn't it? Makes a change from 'waaaaaaa waaaaaaaa waaaaa'.

HI all, Scott has now gone to 7oz feeds 4-5 times a day, including his 9-12oz of water per day. he alos slept through last night from 9pm till 7.30am, hope this is a sign of things to come. DH is putting his cot up in the next few days so he is going into his own bedroom once that is done, I will be placing the moses basket in the cot so as not to give him too much of a change in one go. DD went into her own room at 11wks, (but as she was born 36weeks she was 7wks if you get what I mean) , I had him weighed the other day and he is now 11lb8oz

My cleaner came in today god I felt like a lazy bitch whilst she was cleaning my windows and hovereing. (well I say windows I have 4 patio doors. Two in front room/dinner, one in my bedroom going on to a balcony and another in DD bedroom with vertical bars half way up to prevent accidents. It is grat as I just open the doors and have what little wind there is come through the shutters and insect mesh.I noticed the other day that my pram is broken so I am not a happy bunny tried speaking to mamas and papas but as I am not in the country not a lot they can do, I managed to get hold of Peg Pegero in Italy (who mnake m&P prams) who gave me the name of some shops in Cyprus that sell their prams. Not sure what to do as I could send the pram back to the UK with my mam next week and gewt her to take it in and complain for me the DH can bring it back with him at the end of september or take it to a shop here but they have said I probably won't get it back till end of september as all the factories are on shut down at the moment. it is a manufactors (sp)N fault as the weilding on one of the bars has split ( it is one of the bars that holds the seat up when upright. As he is in the carry cot at the moment Scott is safe, but still!!!) I am really annoyed as we payed a lot of money for it. I think I am going to send it to the UK and demand a new pram off them , I suppose I will have to wait and see, the only problem is if it isn't ready by the end of September how do I get it out here as they have said they don't post outside the UK. I could just scream at the moment sorry all I seem to do is rant and moan I just wish something would go smoothly for me just for once!!!! AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

best go and fininsh of the unpacking upsatirs. Take care all .

K ( Iam smiling honest!!!)

HI all its quiet on here. I have finally finished unpacking and got the bedrooms sorted, well thought I had until it came to DD room, firstly in the move the bolts for her safty bars ( high bed) have been lost so she has a matteress on the floor, DH was going to get some bolts made at work for her, then last night when I ws putting the mattress protector on her bed I noticed that the mattress is split, ( she has only had the bed 2years ) so this means we are now going to have to by her a new bed. We are going to have to speak to people and find out where we can get her one from. REally because of space she needs another high one, so I had better get looking. Think I may get her one with a desk and pull out single bed underneath. She also stood on her curtains this morning and pulled the rail down!!!!!. I also need to get some curtains made for the front room and bedrooms (have been told it is cheaper to get them made than to buy.) Why does everything have to cost soo much, since I have been here we have had to buy a new washing machine and dishwashe. DH did buy the original washing machine of the people who had the house before us, but it had no instructions and all the dial instructions on machine had been rubbed off, really I can't believe he bought it!!!. The air con has alos gone in the car and believe me it is not nice going out with no air con in temperatures pushing 40degrees. So I haven't really been going out anywhere, will try and get it fixed this week.
Anyway hope to here from you all soon.

Karen

Forgot to mention Scott went into his own room last night and slept from 9.30pm till 8.30 am. Not expecting that tonight though as he only had 3oz of miklk at his 8.30 feed tonight, but never mind can't complain he is such a good baby and very rarely cries.

I was wrong Scott slept all the way through again last night yeahhh. That both DD abnd DS going through feom 9 weeks.

I am starting to feel like a mad woman talking to myself!!!!

Hello Karen (and everbody else) glad to here that you are getting settled in your new bouse, even with all wee issues! Pleased that Scott is doing well.

Not a lot happening at this end to be honest - DD1 back at Nursery (yipee) and DH is dropping her of (when he is here at least) so no mad panic in the morning. DD2 is thriving, just such a good girl I am waiting for it all going Pete Tong. Only problem we have is getting her to take a bottle (I know it is our own fault) but she does eventually and actually had a good go with a cup last at the weekend so hopefully not an issue for much longer. Still gowing like a weed and generally being cute!

DH off on holiday beginning September so looking forward to that - although still not got anything booked and getting a but late to organise a passport so probably stay at home.

Monkeygirl - hope the mixed feeding is helping you. 3 girls from my ante-natal classes have taken that road and are all doing really well.

I am v. impressed with the athletic babies we have on this thread - DD2 will I fear be like her sister and use all her energy to talk incessantly rather than actually move! Although DD1 sat fairly early she then continued to just sit until 12 months when she decided to break into a wee totter across the floor!

Right off to feed Buddah. Take care all.

Karen - I'm sorry, I would have posted earlier but got confused with the last date posted, thinking it was mine and so didn't bother looking properly as I thought I would be the mad woman talking to myself! Anyway glad you have settled in well and that Scott is doing so well - and sleeping so long you lucky thing.

And Gomez, another 'dream' June baby - lucky you.

Does that mean everyone is geting some decent sleep now? I'm much more knackered this time round than with dd1.

Mine is a darling but not quite following the pattern. He was sleeping longer and longer at night (to 7.5 hours) but has taken a giant leap backwards the last 2/3 nights and has been waking up every 2/2.5 hours. I'm pretty sure it's not a growth spurt yet as he doesn't take in enough milk, just has a nip and a fuss.

I spoke to a lovely NCT bf counsellor who suggested loads of things for his screaming pattern and I am trying different things but with no particular success, although it's not quite as bad as it has been. It's still a struggle to feed him and I have just been giving him formula every now and then, but I think I will now go down the 'proper' mixed feeding road sooner rather than later. I do worry that his fussing and unsettledness is about him not having a full tum. The hv has even threatened me with another home visit just ot follow up the feeding (but probably to check I'm not beating and starving him no doubt).

Gomez - when are you on hols in September? We're going in the last week and I can't wait, just for the change of scenery. I'm pretty sick of our 4 walls here which we see far too much because of this bloody rain! DD1 has another 3 weeks yet before nursery - boy do I think we are both ready for that!

Well my pasta is ready so off to stuff my face.

Take care all.

Sorry Gomez - just realised you are on hols beginning of Sept - not long then!

Skara: how did you like the MEOS? I am trying to figure out what nappies to use when N. goes to childminder (starting October, I think). He's outgrowing whatever nappies I have been using -- I found them in a charity shop & they were labeled Totsbots but I know that's not what they actually were.

Anyway, I cant decide what to try next! N. is very long, so I think we can just skip medium sizes, go straight to large. I don't want to spend a fortune trying every sort, though...

No, N. is not a good sleeper... he has slept long stretches (7-8 hrs) twice, but it's usually no more than 4 hours, and then it's awake every 2 hours after that. I have been very fragile some days from lack of sleep... so I better go to bed after this, actually. On the plus side, he is very mellow & laid back most of the time. We haven't done enough tummy time, though (Bad mother alert...!) because although he holds his head steady he can't lift it from the floor for long. Trying to put him on his tum more often, now, he's pretty mellow about that, too, actually. Until he gets bored & lonely & scared... he needs to know that people are around, but doesn't actually need much interaction. He's very happy sitting (very supported) on my knees, & watching.

Cavy, actually N sounds like Alex in sleeping and being quite mellow most of the other time (Alex only gets mad when he's tired and then he lets us all know in his usual lusty way!) Alex also loves to know people are around but can just be left there to watch us sometimes although he is beginning to demand more attention. I wasn't able to put DD1 down for months I seem to remember so am thankful for that.

I should go to bed but just can't bear to go to bed too early cos I want to feel that I have some semblance of 'adult' time occasionally, even if it's just watching crap tv (with a glass of wine natch ).

Skara - are you around? Did J change quite a bit around the 12 week mark - just curious?

Wow had a better night last night probably because 1) I topped him up with formula before bed 2)he slept in our bed for most of the night.

I also experimented with missing a breastfeed so that I could see what would happen if I then offered him engorged breasts ie I knew there was lots of milk there. Well he didn't scream so maybe I am one of those rare people who really does not have enough milk?? Sorry, yes I am still stressing out over the feeding although I guess I'm becoming slightly more relaxed. I gave him formula instead of a boob in a public place and for me it was a much happier and more relaxing experience.

I think Alex's eyes are beginning to change colour and that they are going to be greeny blue like his sister's/father's. Apart from her eyes dd1 looks nothing like me or dh and ds already looks like his sister did at a similar age. Does this mean we are going to have 2 kids who don't look like us? Lucky them I guess!

Hi All,

DD1 at Grans, DH away for a few days just me and DD2 having fun today. Weather okay as well so all in all a fine Wednesday.

Not a lot happening to be honest and everyone else sounds happy enough too!

Oh, spoke to soon - afternoon nap over earlier than planned. Catch you all later.

Hello everyone,
only just discovered this thread - only just discovered MN.
Have dd, born 15th June. Am I the only one with just one? Very much in awe of those on 2nd & 3rds. Many posts sounding v familiar. Freaking out at dp, crying baby, smiling/chatty baby, MIL moments, etc.
dd slept through night last night for 1st time, v v exciting, except monitor alarm went off as battery died, so we woke up anyway. - exppect it to be the last for a while too - probably a blip as am bf, but i live in hope. although night before it was 2 and 5 am - go figure.
Dp currently feeding dd, I should be sleeping... but will probably watch a bit of Nip/Tuck for 1st time. v grusome shots of tummy tucks, made me imagine what dp saw during my CS. YUK.
anyway, on that cheery note
good night
PS should also have said - dd is Ava, and is incredible.

eek, I thought I'd updated on here but I think I must've done one of my classic 'type post then forget to hit post message button' errors. Will do better update tomorrow when not so knackered as have lots to say. J still heavenly and gorgeous and 11 weeks already but still wakes a few times from 2am onwards for a scoff fest which is ok, cos he's obviously hungry, but might prove a bit knackering when dh is back at work. He's currently on holiday doing painting, so we're still in new house chaos mode .

We're getting so many gorgeous smiles now - he is deeeelicious, yum yum

Welcome XenaWP - beware, MN is very addictive whether you're posting or just lurking. How are you finding it (having a baby I mean, not MN)? And how dare you have yet another baby sleeping through!!. Are me and Cavy the only ones who don't?

Yes I think strangely enough all of us on this thread (so far!) are 2nd/3rd/4th timers, but don't let that put you off. I'm on no 2 and feel like a newbie parent all over again - nature has a funny way of making you forget all the useful things.

Haven't got much to report (it's just that my dh has FINALLY got off the computer) apart from Alex is losing his hair! Keep waking up and finding piles of it on the sheets. He's also decided that he likes sleeping in our bed after he gets in for his 2pm feed. He's lovely and snuggly but it's making my shoulder sore. Still it's worth it if it helps him sleep better.

Oh well off to lurk somewhere else.

Skara - I was going to say I saw you on some other thread and wondered why you hadn't popped in cos yo normally do. Oh hi by the way! Enjoying your new house I hope.