June Babies - come out, come out, wherever you are...

[Skara]

Hoping this might tempt fate on the June list and produce some more June babies

forgot to say, welcome Xenaxp
and hi mg
no, J doesn't sleep through, none of mine do till they're 9 months plus but I am fairly zen about it, cos when they do they sleep 12 hours without interruption (touch wood )

Same here Skara with dd1 - she used to wake for games in the night until 8 months when we did controlled crying and ever since she has been doing 11-13 hours right through - hooray!

Hi all and welcome Xenaxp.

Scott slept from 7.30pm till 9am last night, so I am well chuffed. Glad to here everyone is doing OK.
Scott had his first lot of injections the other dya so was abit grizley for the afternoon, buut has been fine since.

DH is going back to the Uk next wednesday for just over 3wks, I have just got used to us all been together when we will be apart again.

better go little man hs just woke up from his nap.

Take care all.

Karen

My goodnes thats one hell of a long sleep Karen. Hope you are making the most of all that slepp :). Back here we are still doing mostly 7-8 hours but Grace did sleep through once so far and was I excited?? YES! Like skara and Monkeygirl my dd1 didn't sleep through toll around 9 months when we also did control crying. I have higher hopes for Grace. (as she is already doing better than dd1 was at 6 months).
I have had a crappy few days with Caitlin (dd1) being sick again and so grumpy and demanding throughout the day. I've just felt so swamped cos the house has become a dump, dh has been busy building our new room (won't complain there!) so hasn't done anything round the house. Anyway, now my babies are in bed for the night I feel relaxed and totally in love with them again :). the're so beautiful when they are asleep making those little baby groans. awwwww. :)
Welcome to you too Xenaxp. Nice to have you! :)
I always think of things to post every time i log on but mostly don't get on with posting and then ...well here we are.
Will catch up again soon.

well all those happy smiles just didn't work did they!!

Well I'm back form my travels now. had a week in Devon wich was lovely even tho weather wasn't great.

& I have just got back from Guide camp with ds & dd.
she has slept liek a dream all week - 10pm-6am
in fact both of them have been sooo well behaved

going to move dd to her cot in our room next week since she is now as long as her carry cot!

just looked in their red books & ds & dd were eactly same length & head circumference @ 8 week check.

me n dd are still passing thrush between each other despite both having medication

not much else happening at mo
BW

monkeygirl - MS is not just addictive, it's lethal. don't know how much time have spent over last 2 days lurking, reading various threads. only thing is, it's a bit like being hypochondriac - or whatever the maternal equivalent is, as am reading threads about 2 year olds straying, or difficult 9 year olds, or jealous siblings, and am looking up the links to all the help books 'just in case' my 10.5 week old dd runs away/has behavioual problems/ or whatever.
Hmm
think I need to get a bit of perspective here!
Karen - that was a phenomenal sleep - dd is already cutting back a bit on 11-7, was earlier rising today, but still fine.
thanks also for various welcomes, am passing on MN to all my friends (sounds like a disease, when you put it like that!)

Hello (and welcome XenaWP) to all.

Friday PM and not a lot happening. DD1 making fairy gardens with Ello and DD2 snoozing away on spare bed. Probably exhausted after saving her poo up for 3 days and then depositing it all a couple of hours ago - nice! So in the peace I have been a bit of a domestic goddess - made soup, stew, bread and fruit salad and then chopped some wood too!

Weight loss is ticking along nicely, I am converted to WW On-line (which you are not supposed to do if BF but I am adding in the additional points) and am now 10 lbs down in 3 weeks so pleased with that.

Heading off for the weekend tomorrow AM so need to go and pull a few bits and pieces together. Not sure where we will go thou - will chat it through with DH tonight and then proably stick a pin in the map as we won't be able to decide.

We all seem to be ticking over happily at the moment on thid thread which is quite nice. Cathncait is your DH still doing well?
Take care all.

Chopping wood is a bit grand - I was chopping kindling sticks which is a bit easier...

HI all, I let Scott have a little dip in the pool today, (I didn't let his face near the ware as he was on his back) he kicked about nicely.
Trying to keep him in the shade in the pool was a nightmare so he didn't get long he got 3 3-5 min stints. {bless, he looks sooo cute in his swimming trunks). I however am sunburnt in my back and shoulders kept applying oin Scott and Nicole and forgot about myself (duhh)
It is 21.10 here now and scott has been in bed in his own room for the past 2 hrs. I have even started to put him into his room for his day napps now. HIs routine is well and trully set now I can literaly tell the time by him now.and nicole is upstairs with her cousin watching a DVD in bed. DH has took my mam and her cousin out in Agia Napa for a meal, then he is taking them on the town tommorrow night in Protaras.

BW glad you had a good time away,
Gomez, hope you have a good weekend.

A quick question for all of you, I had the Coil fitted four weeks ago ( the one with th e hormomones in) but I haven't stopped bleeding yet with it I started the day after it was put in and haven't stopped yet. If I have to have it tsken out not sure what to do as hate condoms, ws told 5 yrs ago heading for a stroke on the combined pill ( not agreeing with me) , bled constantly on the mini pill, on depo bled for 3 wks and had 1 wk off!! The normnal coil gives me really bad period pains but think I will have to go back to that as don't want to use anything that takes the spontinanty out of it all ( if you catch my drift

Anyway best go and do some more house work .

Take care all

K

ware- should be water ( duhhh karen )

Karen - uh not have sex . Only kidding, you go girl. But you seem to have most bases covered. I'm not so up on contraceptives as I used to be so not sure what your solution is. I'm sure there's a way of making condoms a part of the whole foreplay thing but dh might not agree! Have your periods started then? I thought mine had but my bleed only lasted a few hours so don't know yet if it was a a proper period or not.

We had a great day yesterday. Walked a few miles to Kensington Gardens and went to the Diana play area and then the fountain which was mostly unimpressive. Dd1 got told off for standing in it (good job they didn't see what she had been doing a few minutes before that!) - spoilsports. But Alex was so good all day and just had a good sleep or a little look round and took in all the new sights and sounds.

Xenawp - the paranoia never stops! I still check my 3 year old in bed to make sure she is breathing, never mind all the other worries I went through with her and now it starts all over again with ds.

Bogwoppit - poor you with the thrush. Is feeding painful?

Cathncait - how's your dh now?

Gomez - chopping wood! Do you also draw your own water from a well?? Ah I'm just a jealous city dweller. Do you live in the middle of nowhere then?

Oh well, better think about going to bed as we're up early to visit my folks tomorrow.

Take care.

thrush clearing up thank goodness, not been too painful.

AF decided to put in an appearance during camp . extremely heavy. Not surprised tho - started again @ 3 mth with ds. So much for exclusive bf'ing!!!

not much happening here at mo - wedding anniversary tomorrow - dh has offered to cook a meal

glad everyoen else is doing ok

boggy

hi all
Everything here is going ok. Grace is doing nicely, just starting to laugh. Its sooo cute .
I really feel for you bogwoppit - had thrush with dd1... and with grace but didn't hang around like last time. It lasted for weeks and weeks with dd1 and drove me crazy! Just keep on treating it and it will, eventually, go. But it really sucks in the meantime doesn't it.
Thanks for asking about dh - he is doing well. Still has some minor probs but seems to be less and less going wrong steadily. It was srating to feel like evrytime he moved there was something else wrong with him! But he is busy building on to our house at the moment. He isn't doing everything but still some fairly hefty work and he is coping really well so far. Couldn't have imagined him doing anything like that even just a few months ago.
Sounds like you're settleing in really well Karen. its a pain that your dh is going away again so soon. pretty sure that would drive me nuts! Can't help you with the concraception thingy either -no ideas really (still no sex here- i am a bad wife) plus we have different names for some things over here so gets confusing. I am going to get a thing called implanon (progesterone thing put under skin on arm?) so thats all i can say. I get that next friday so am really going to make an effort for my poor neglected dh then. I find that I still feel pretty fat and unattractive - still really dark stretch marks and just yuk really. Dh doesn't care and I'm trying not to. We'll see i guess.

I have to say that I have been feeling a little snowed under the last week. Not sure why - feel like caitlin is whining all the time and grace is cat napping instead of having proper naps (night time is still good though). Just keeping the house clean or cooking tea is an uphill battle. dh has been so busy working and building -
Sorry to moan - just a bit tired I think. Will try and go to bed early - surely that will help (and a few glasses of wine - I know that will help!) [GRIN]

Gomez - while I remember as I sit here eating a choccy bar - well done on all that weight loss .

Cathncait - it's great your dh is better but don't feel guilty about posting the not so good bits. I am so much more tired this time round. Our flat is a complete tip and packed to the brim with mess but I tell myself dirt doesn't really matter and it will get better - well more fun anyway cos I think older babies, even if they are more demanding are much better 'value for money' (imho). But it is so so hard with a toddler as well - I just cannot imagine having 3 or more to cope with- hats off to you lot that do.

We went to see my folks yesterday and ds was as good as gold, although with babies I feel like we have to make him 'perform' by making him smile etc but he did and was quite happy to be cuddled by other people. But he is loving being in our bed a bit too much now so I may try and phase that out. I don't really mind but there just isn't much room and I do worry that I will hurt him. Not a problem tonight as dh is working all night. Aaah, I may actually have room to sleep on my front instead of curled up in a little ball...

Cath, I'm a bad wife too. Can't be arsed cos too knackered by the end of the day and just want to sit quietly drinking wine and recovering from the mania that is this house at the moment... Have to go to bed now so will write more tomorrow.

I have really got to start thinking about losing weight now, think i will kick start it whilst DH away. Nicole starts school on Thursday, we have to get up at 6am (unheard of in my household!!) as she starts school at 7.15. It is going to take us a while to get into the swing of that, was going to start ealy but as mam has been over Nicole has been staying in a Hotel with her in Ayia Napa, so has spent last 10days as if on holiday. I got her upat 8 ( we are 2hrs ahead)today so will try for six tommorrow. must go and get some bits and bobbs done so that we can spend some q time as a family for DH last day.

Take care all.

hope everyone had a good weekend? was in dorset with family, lovely, lots of cousins for dd to stare at. she's still sleeping through. started using reusable nappies on Friday (not over the w/e tho' - only going to use them at home) & it seems to be working ok. we'll see how it goes. any of you trying them? I was a bit taken aback at how wet they get! was so cushioned by the power of Pampers - what do they make their gel from to work so well! but am keeping an eagle eye out for any redness.

wow, having sex. i remember that. but just can't muster up any enthusiasm, & agree should make an effort, but just see that my boobs look like huge rugby balls and belly is large sponge-like growth, resting on the spikey reef of my pubes (how artistic is that?) as they're taking forever to grow back post CS. oooo, I do feel sexy - not.
am with you Skara - a glass of wine is all I seem to need at the mo'
anyway - all that to say that Karen, I don't really know about the contraception issue - I got the progesterone only pill, but completely forgot to take it over the weekend. I had stuck it to the steriliser with masking tape so dh would take remember to give me a pill 1st thing in the morning (thought he might have more of a vested interest in remembering!) but we're both so knackered it's not worked yet.

gomez - weight loss - everyone's said leave it till finish BF, but how are you doing it? problem is, i get so ravenous, particularly after a feed, and it seems I need/crave more sugar then i've ever eaten in my life before. also 2nd helpings of everything.

& what's this about thrush? I hadn't heard it was common to get it afterwards - another little joy. glad it's cleared up BW.

am feeling a bit empty about dd at mo. looked at her yesterday and just thought would like to go back to 'before'. not for long, but for a bit. she's lovely, but i just thought ' where did you come from?' in quite a non-involved way. i suppose it's just a phase. am not really down, just flat. she's bf at lot at the moment, don't know if it's growth spurt or what, but feel like am permanently clamped to her (never felt any sympathy for a petrol pump before) as feeds taking an hour plus. (only 15 mins or more extra, but it ismaking a bit difference to my 'free' time)

ahh well, onwards and upwards, time to eat loads of lunch!

Oh Karen, far too early. We've been lucky (so far) in that dd and ds are not usually very early risers but I think things will change slightly when dd1 goes to nursery next week at 9:30am (she takes soooo long to get ready I will probably have to get up at 7:30am).

XenaWP, I think loads of people have a 'mourning' period for their old life, no matter how much you love your kids. I still do when it feels like all I've been doing all week is cleaning poo and wee, loading washine and picking food and toys up off the floor, and all I've got to look forward to the next day is more of the same . But once they get older and can interract more there can be lots of fun times to be had and there's nothing like the love you feel for someone you've 'created'. Oh now I'm getting all soppy - it must be the wine talking! I don't miss the going out so much but occasionally the freedom to be able to just grab and bag and walk out the door or sit down and slob with a book or tv without someone tugging at me or whatever. And not just being mum. But it is definitely worth it (I can say that now that both are in bed).

Ds has begun grabbing things over the past few days and is beginning that putting everything in the mouth phase. Lawd, but now the fun begins. And now I can hear him so must go and check him.

HI Ladies -- I collapsed over the weekend into bed, I think it all caught up with me. Plus, I have now diarrhea from DS1 (fab...NOT!), so am on an all liquid diet as it doesn't seem to aggravate me... can you imagine, a breastfeeding mother who can't eat!? I hope no solids makes the problem pass more quickly, I may not stay on it much longer...

Nicky sometimes sleep thru, sometimes not. He's slept much better, though, since I cut out caffein in my diet (still have a little chocolate, but that's all). Made a big difference, but I think the caffeine withdrawal is partly what made me so tired last weekend. He is also very long, much much longer than the others were. I have to put 6-9 month size baby-gros on him (he's only 11 weeks!) when he's in a cloth nappy. Can still do 3-6month sizes for just trousers or tops, at least.

Nicky is reaching for things, rubbing his eyes, but hasn't figured out how to pick things up yet (thank goodness).

Welcome XenaWP. I don't know which was tougher, 1 or 3? It's just the constant attention to many children is what's so tough (but I was mad enough to have 3 under 5...). A bit older and they could do all the toilet visits and snacks themselves, that would help.

Also, dumb question I suppose. I have this 'Lenor' carton I got in a Bounty pack or other freebie bag (I don't remember which). Is it fabric conditioner or clothes detergent -- can any one tell me? It doesn't say!

Hi Cavy, I've got the same one, if it's "Lenor Sensitive with natural essences' I presumed it was fabric conditioner? it's got a little 'recommeded by Ariel non-bio' mark on the top, so I guess it's not washing powder as they wouldn't recommend another make.

Hope you're feeling better Cavy. No caffeine or food - sounds like hell (especially if you can't drink either ).

Alex is trying to bat his toys on the playgym but likes to talk to them more and blow bubbles (he's one dribbly baby!). He's also madly sucking on his fist which sometimes satisfies him and sometimes makes him cry - I think it's because he prefers his thumb but can't always get it in his mouth. He's 12 weeks today so I might celebrate by raising his buggy a notch so that he can see out a bit better. Unfortunately he has cradle cap (wondered why his head was a bit smelly) so I'll try th eolive oil treatment but that didn't work with dd last time so no doubt I will end up picking it all off again.

And tomorrow he gets his 2nd injections and his balls checked out - lucky boy!

Ava's got cradle cap too, lovely scabby head. I put a few drops of tea tree oil in the olive oil, I found the olive on its own didn't do much, but tea tree is antiseptic & seems to help more. (got this from a book)

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Hope this works. fingers crossed.

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