June Babies - come out, come out, wherever you are...

[Skara]

Hoping this might tempt fate on the June list and produce some more June babies

Hi all you June pple - first chance really to log since birth - bit mad wot with the boys as well.

Good to catch up on the news. We have decided on Nancy - probably Nancy Cate.

Shes a bit of a terror - very hard to settle without rocking, feeding, feeding, rocking. Drives me a bit mad with the other two to look after. Am starting to doubt my milk - but she is putting on weight or was the only time I got her weighed. I want to give bfeeding a go, but do find it hard.

Hope you are all getting some rest folks......

hi all,

am drinking lots too Cavy but mainly gin, occasionally Pimms, and tonight red wine. Am terrible drunken sozzlemother with drunk breastfed alcobaby

Have had visitors, am now relishing in peace and quiet of empty house and lovely lovely dh has just bought me a present of a laptop so I can do mumsnetting in the garden while the children play (hurrah for wireless networking). So another couple of days and my exile will be over Have been suffering dreadful withdrawal symptoms. Oh and am horrendously fat. Off to confess my sins on the weightloss thread

Skara - snap! I am happily on the wine tonight (just for a change - ahem) cos had a crappy day with two unsettled crying children. I'm hoping it's a temporary too-hot-weather thing. At least I don't sweat like I did when I was pregnant.

Niceglasses - I would love nothing better than to give up bfing but still feel I should persevere, although Alex is not putting on much weight atm. I shall get him weighed on Friday and think about it more after that. But he seems to be thriving. He has now started moving around his cot already and seems to be trying to talk to me. But he still finds it almost painful to go sleep even though he loves nothing better.

Is everyone having the 'normal' DTwP or are you asking for DTaP (ie mercury-free immunisations)? I asked at my surgery but they are already treating me as some kind of paranoid mad woman. Am I??

am doing this while children are in car so am v bad mother. but yes I want the thimerosil free dtp thingie. However J still hasn't even had a 6 week check due to my laziness and my 2yo is still a bit lacking in the vaccination dept

hi all
I am forcing myself to write now cos the few quiet times I get to myself these days are not many. so while the little peepers are sleeping, here we are. I do read all your posts and check in often tosee whats going on - so please don't think my lack of posts is becauses I'm not interested in whats going on with you all.
We are all doing well. Grace is 5kgs now - from 3.6kg birth weight so that is great. She is finally starting to seetle down now - i can actully put her down now without constant crying! Thats a huge relief. But the evenings are still her bad time. Just really unsettled between 6 and 10ish. Impossible to do much at this time excpet rock/cuddle/walk her. Oh well. This too shall pass . She is doing well at night now. Settling quickly between feeds and going a bit longer now and then. Actuially went 8 1/2 hours the other night. But only one so far - rest is 5-6hours still.
We have moved her into a cot too as she really would not sleep in her bassinet. She looks so tiny in it though - bless her cotton socks
ANyway, thats pretty much every detail really isn't it and now she s crying of course so gotta go. talk soon

Afternoon All

Spending a much needed lazy day at home - DH been on holiday for a few days so been buzzing around all over the place and had a fabby day at the beach on Sunday.

Lily seems to have turned that 6 week corner (although happpily on the way to 8 weeks now) and turned into 'perfect baby' - sleeps great (okay on her tummy but I am not telling HV and I can only presume she won't either), feeding and growing like a weed, playing and generally is an absolute joy at the moment. It will I am sure all go Pete Tong very soon - DD1 was a good baby too and I can't believe we have been given 2???

One downside is that she has grown out of the first set of washable nappies and although I have got a wee sample set of differnt types of larger ones I am not convinced that financially it makes sense to fork out for another set when she is still piling the pounds on. What might swing it however is that she has developed a touch of nappy rash after 1.5 days in disposables.

Karen - good luck, hope all goes well and look forward to hearing from you when you get sorted out in sunny Cyprus!

Injections - booked for next Thursday and am currently waiting on local health board calling back as HV is a tube and being a bit funny about the whole thing. Which is strange as the Scottish Executive policy is that Infanrix is available on request - they have just failed to tell my HV this piece of information obvioulsy!! Keep fighting if that is what you want.

Right of for a coffee and no bun as am now a memeber of Lactating Losers!

Take care all!

Afternoon all - am thunderstorms are raging outside and babies are asleep so I am doing someting 'constructive' .

It's lovely to hear how you and all your babies are doing. I went for my 6 week check-up today and found that my stitches have not healed so well in one place so doctor welded me together again with some oxide thingy - eek. And she weighed me - double eek. Despite being several stone overweight (no exaggeration) she didn't turn a hair and told me not to diet yet (I am trying although have been mostly a failure so far).

I asked nurse about Infanrix and couldn't believe it when she didn't bat an eyelid, just told me what she thought but said they had it for the pre-schoolers so I could give it to Alex if it made me feel better! In that case, all being well I will start it this Friday at baby clinic.

I'm coping ok with baby but I am using a dummy. Actually I was a dummy snob first time round but this time I can see and really appreciate their use and am just trying not to abuse it. My hope is he will grow out of wanting it when he can self-comfort himself soon. Having said that I think it would have been unbearable if I couldn't let Alex chew on something else apart from me! This boy loves to suck.

Anyway enough of this wittering.

See y'all.

Hi Ladies. Everything hectic my end but I love reading your posts, I just hate 1-handed typing! At least I like breastfeeding, still.
I will ask 4 DTaP, too.
Gomez -- the cloth nappies that N. (75th per'tile) is in now (medium size) should last 6-9 months, so I think it's worthwhile if U can buy 2nd hand.

Well we are still in the UK. As you know we were supposed to be moving today but thursday afternoon we were told our flight had been cancelled, we will be flying out on Wednesday instead. And DH had been told that we were all been given 40kg for our luggage. However the moving department phoned yesterday(friday) to confirm our flight for wed and I asked about luggage and was told that DH got 40kg, I get 30kg and nicole and Scott both get 15kg each. I am up shit creek as so far we have 6 suitcases and 2 holdalls plus all of Scotts bits pram etc. Jusat hoping that they will allow it all on the flight. If not some of it will have to follow on the next few flights out.

better go and get to bed

Karen - you've been having quite a time of it haven't you, you poor thing. Make sure it's your dh who sacrifices his things if you need to leave anything behind .

Well Alex once again did not put on much weight and has really been behaving 'badly' on the breast. I've started another thread somewhere asking for words of wisdom from MN so I won't bore you here with the details as well. But apart from bfing problems AGAIN he is a lovely little fella who is cooing and desperately trying to talk back to us.

Thank God I did stick to my original plan and asked, and got, DTaP on Friday, just a day before the news report about the DTwP came out. He didn't seem to have any bad reaction to it so one down, 2 to go now, phew.

He seems to be coping quite well with this heat, which is more than can be said for me...roll on September!

Hello All,

It is been absolutley roasting today - so much for the rotten day we were supposed to be having!

DH is now away on business until next Saturday and it is super bad timing as PsIL are also away and my parents are unavailable. I am looking forward to the week from hell!

Karen I sm sure you will be fine with your luggage/weight allowances - just make sure you and Scott are at the front of the queue and look really stressed!

What nappies are you using Cavy? In the medium size we have tried and liked a Bumble, Fuzzi Bunz and a Slinki Minki - the latter two being great as far as I am concerned. But I am not convinced they will last for 6 to 9 months. We are using them at night and Nature Boy and girl during the day which appeared to solve the nappy rash problem so we are back to only the cost issue again. A friend of a friend has an attic full of MEOS which she is to drop of this week so I will see how I get on with them too - but must admit to being converted to the stuffables with micro-inserts - they are really as easy to put on as disposables and wash and dry so quickly!!! Aahhh decisions.

Have been sticking to my weight loss campaign this week and hope I have done okay again - but had my first night out with the girls on Friday and consumed an inordinate amount of booze! Felt fine on Saturday only after a carb overdose so may not have done too well however! I am in there for the long haul.

Monkeygirl why worry about using a dummy if you and your boy are better for it then what is the problem?

Lily getting Infanrix on Thursday after I had to listen to a pile of nonsense from another HV about reduced whopping cough protection if I went down that route, blah blah - how I laughed when the annoucements were made at the weekend. I am pleased for no real reason that we are too close to starting the process to need to consider the 5-in-1 vaccine. Not sure I would be very keen on that. Don't know why tho.

Right off for a nice early night.

Take care all

boiling to death here, and so busy with summer holidays and new house stuff that I haven't had a chance to catch up on everyone's news so will do so tomorrow. Now have to rush to get the littlest one done with infanrix before they try and stick 5 things at once into him . Weighed him today, he's 14lb at 10 weeks. So has gained 6lb since birth - oink oink. Am I the only one who loves breastfeeding and the myriad chocolate excuses it provides?

Gomez - at least all that rushing around might burn off a few more calories for you - but you sound as if you are doing really well anyway . Good luck for the week ahead.

My periods returned yesterday . It is incredibly light at the moment so maybe I won't have the full-on experience yet, but I was hoping to get a few more weeks of period-free life yet.

I also think the soldering the doctor did to my nether regions hasn't worked, so I'll have to go back, sigh.

And I'm afraid I hate hate hate bfing but am determined to try and do it a while longer.

Skara - 6lbs in 10 weeks!!!! Well done you. My ds has not even put on 2lbs yet in 8 weeks, double sigh. Even I've put on more weight since the birth that ds has

Can you guess I'm on a bit of a downer at the moment? At least it's cooler today...

The concept of rushing around was good in theory Monkeygirl but today I sat on my big fat one all day and let DD1 overdose on Cbeebies and fed DD2 for what seems about 10 of the last 12 hours. She has been an absolute porker today. Had a look on your BF thread but have no advice to offer I am afraid. I do understand your concerns about weight gain but if you think he is okay then as advised stay away from the scales. (And that applies to you too!!!) Lily can be a bit of a pain towards the end of the odd feed but I think it is my milk supply settling down - i.e. I am not drowning in the bloody stuff any more and she has come to quite like having it flowing super fast if you know what I mean so can get a bit grumpy at the end of a lengthy feed when she needs to work a bit harder!

Nice to hear from you Skara! Anyone else still around?

Bye, bye Karen!
Cheers

hi all, well we are off to ther airport in phours to book our luggage in, fingers crossed it will all get on out flight ( we are flyinh military to fingers crossed).

I haven't had Scott weighed for two weeks but at his last weigh in at 5wks4days he had put on just over 3lb, I reckon now he must be close to the 11lb mark will get him weighed when I meet my new health visitor later in the week. I can't beleive the time for us to go has actually come, I am starting to feel quite sad re leaving family and friends. Saying that my mam is coming out next week for a 10 day holiday with her cousin, I think she has a few nights in Ayia Napa planned. I think she has started to relive her youth now she is single again, can't blame her though as she is only 48 so still young enough to enjoy herself to the full on the town.
Scott latched on to my breast today whilst we were having some skin to skin time, I am well p*ed off as I have vwery little milk (breast needs to be really squeezed for a tiny drop to come out). If I keep latching him on now will my milk return.??

Suppose i better get some sleep as will be very busy over the next few days. Atleast I will be iun MY OWN HOUSE yeah the first time since january and I can,t wait for the four off us to be a little family again it makes everything that has happened worth while.

Not sure when I will be able to logg on again so take care all and I will post as soon as possible.

x

hi again
Look forward to hearing from you soon karen - hope it all goes fantastically well
Well my two have been a bit sick for the last couple of weeks - not too serious but a bit draining. dd1 has had a cold and then a minor tummy bug and dd2 is just all snuffly and had an yucky eye (blocked tear duct). All of these things seem on the improve. DD1 had her 2nd birthday on Saturday and loved every minute of it! Everyone who cam eto the door was greeted with 'its my birthday...2!' closely followed by 'pressent?'. We all hads a lovely day - didn't have a party but lots of family came by over the day to see her.
Have been meaning to say how well DH is doing now. He is stiull having some problems as far as certain blood levels to do with his remaining kidney - but all things we can live with and control with diet. So things are defineatley still improving.
baby Grace went 8 1/2 hours the other night (i was pretty excited!) but 6ish hours seems to be the norm - I'm certainly not complaining about that either. dd1 took forever to go longer than 4 or 5 hours.
She is defineatley more settled now during the day and even in the evenings which has been great - time for that glass of wine in peace before bed. And she is just soooo cute now, cooing and smiling all the time. Its really lovely. WE had our 6 week check the other day and everything was perfect.
So all in all we seem to be doing great...now if I could just lose some weight........
hope you all doing well, thinking of you all.

Karen, I remember reading a post from Tiktok about relactation being hard but possible. If you are really serious it might be worth talking to a NCT councellor or maybe posting here first to see if anyone has done it succesfully - I'm pretty sure they have. Good luck with your new home - it's going to be fab I bet once you've got the move out of the way.

Cathncait - that's great news about your dh - must be a relief to you both. And another June baby doing well!

My ds was more settled but has had some very unsettled periods and he is still playing up at feeds which is very very frustrating. I thought I had cracked the problem mentally but he just doesn't seem to be feeding, although he must be getting some milk I guess. I found the early months feeding with dd1 equally depressing but will again grit my teeth and take the bfing day by day.

Apart from that life with ds is great. He has now learnt to turn over on his front as well as move across the cot/bed. He still has a lusty cry but strangely loves to hear me sing (must be the only person who does). He's still doing 5 hour stints at night. Just to need to sort out the second half of the night and join them up and it will be sleep central .

Had anyone started routines with their babies or 'doing' Gina Ford?

Skara - how's your move going btw? Meant to ask you ages ago. Are you loving your new house and the area yet?

Oh forgot to add my dh managed to drop ds into the bath face first - hadn't realised that he had had such a big drinking session after work . He took it quite well considering the poor mite's face was covered in bubbles and I'm sure he swallowed some water.

hi again. Just wondering how everyone else with other kids manages to make one on one time with baby - if you do. I find it really difficult and find that sometimes dd has either worn me out or driven me crazy so as soon as shes somewhere else or asleep I just switch off. I actually feel guilty cos Grace just doesn't get the attention that dd1 gets. I know its impossible for it to be the same as it was with only one to give all my attention to - but what do you girls do?
monkey girl - hope your doing ok with the bfeeding. I know it can be really rustrating - i had problems with both babies in the early weeks (although things are quite good at this point). Was it you who said baby had thrush? We have had a few recurring bouts of it and it really p's me off - so frustrating. How many weeks is Alex now?
We're not doing a routine thing. Not really for me. we did with dd1 but really didn't help much and made me really stressed.

Cathncait - I think everyone feels the same about giving the 2nd/3rd etc born attention. I'm lucky in that dh takes dd1 swimming or to the park at the weekends and sometimes in the evening so I do get time alone with ds but tbh I think the stimulation babies this age get bfing and watching you and others in the families is what they need. I've just felt that in the last few days ds has needed more attention as he stays awake longer and longer and is beginning to notice the outside world. One thing I do is get dd to draw pictures for him which I then show to him and he really seems to love that. Gets all of us involved with each other then! Does your dd go to nursery? Mine starts again in September in the mornings so I will have that time as well, although I intend to use it also for shopping as taking them both so far has been very stressful!

Btw Alex is 9 weeks today. If I can find all the info I might try and put together a list of June births.

The only routine I'm trying to is give ds a bath with dd and then change into night clothes, feed, cot, songs and then put on his musical toy at roughly the same time every night. So far he has gone off to sleep (although have made a slight rod for my back with dummy at nights as it drops out I have to keep going back to put it in but I'm hoping he will find his fingers soon - he's nearly there) and has been doing the 5 hour stints. Well except for tonight where he is very unsettled. Must know I'm alone and on MN!

Bfing still a nightmare. It seems to be getting worse and I really am struggling. It's getting very depressing but am still trying to take it day by day. But I know I will not be a long term bfer!

Anyway, so endeth the essay. Must go eat.

Take care all.

stream of consciousness reply follows, excuse lack of sense but am meant to be doing 600 other things as ever - why isn't there a frazzled smiley?

MG, sorry you're having a bit of a nightmare with the bf. J has quite a lot of fidgety feeds but I think this heat has a lot to do with it. How long did you feed for the first time? Wish I could think of something helpful to say but I'm clueless .

Karen if there's milk there and S is keen and you want to start feeding him again, just keep putting him to the boob and your supply will up. If you want to relactate, there's loads of into on the laleche league website which is www.laleche.org I think...I know someone who did it and went from formula back to fully bf at about 7 or 8 weeks.

Housemove went ok, life is slightly chaotic and half our life is in boxes in the loft but that reduces stuff everywhere so is rather nice! weightloss has gone nowhere as I keep eating stress chocolate - life with 3 is lovely but combined with moving and summer holidays is v hard work. I never seem to get caught up on anything, there seems to be so little time to fart about mumsnetting and due to the pukiness of the littlest person there is SO MUCH washing! As for quality time with him and the others, I tend to lean towards the benign neglect school of parenting so the older two float about fighting and playing and having lots of cuddles from me and dh to make up for the woeful lack of painting, playdoh, stories, etc and J is such a sweet little thing that he lies under his gym or in his bouncy chair or in the sling and we all chat to him and that's about all he gets. I do try and remember to say the odd nursery rhyme to him now and again and even show him the odd picture book but mainly he just floats about being lovely and watching the chaos that is our life . And no, we haven't got any routine for him - basically I (we at the mo, dh is on hols luckily) get the big ones into bed, come down, sometimes J has a bath in the kitchen followed by a massage, but generally he just has a wash, I put him in his bag and give him a feed and he goes to sleep in his basket in the sitting room with us. Or pootles about not going to sleep, squeaking and fidgeting until he does finally go to sleep, more often than not. Then he had been sleeping from 9 till about 2.30, feeding then sleeping till 5.30 but the lastr couple of nights he's woken and fed about 10, and slept a bit longer at night. He's in a bedside cot which has 3 sides next to me at night. And right on cue, he's woken up...more later xxx to all

Skara - does Jude sleep in a brown bag then . Sorry, I do know what you mean. I was too mean to buy a summer sleeping bag but I shall definitely get a couple for autumn onwards as they sound great. Did you use them for your first two? We also have the bedside cot - it's fantastic isn't it?

I breastfed for 4 months first time round, which I was quite pleased with! I did loads of research at the time and seem to remember that you got most of the benefits of bfing if you did the first 17 weeks at least. I know I know, WHO recommend 6 months and then even better to do longer but it was info I clung on to at the time.

I too have failed miserably at dieting (God is there nothing I can do right at the moment?) and have just polished off two huge chocolate cookies after a large pasta dish. Comfort eating I know cos of bfing problems and every time I get cross with dd1 (also linked to bfing probs I'm sure).

It must all be getting to me. I couldn't work out why I was getting strange looks walking down the street today until I realised I was singing the Winnie the Pooh song really loudly for no good reason. Yikes.

no, we're posher than that and he has a tesco bag
I think the thing with the bf is just to do it day by day and not pressurise yourself into anything. One of my friends had a really rubbish start with her dd2 and then went on to feed her dd3 for ages. And don't get stressed about it - probably easier said than done...meanwhile keep eating the choc and scaring strangers with loud singing .

Hi all ,well we made it here all our luggage did too. It is v hot and sweaty, hoping that it will help me lose weight too

DH hadn't quite got the house ready as he said he had so I have re arranged the front room /dinning room and kitchen. I now need to start doing the bedrooms but believe me in this heat it is not a task that I am looking forward too. The sweat still pours of you at night. Plus the pub is alot more appealing tan sorting out
Scott is enjoying being naked alot of the time too !!! But adapting very well as is DD.
Will post again soon now that we have internet. (it was installed literary 10 mins ago)

Take care all

Hellooo!

Cripes Karen you haven't hung about - welcome back. Are you pleased with you house? And enjoying the sun?

Cathncait - pleased to hear that your DH is doing so well. That must make it all easier for you. I think because I have 4 years between the girls it makes it easier to involve and give attention to both of them as their needs are so different. DD1 doesn't need 'mothering'. I think having a bigger age gap must make the whole think easier and take my hat of to peeps with babies and toddlers. And completely agree with MG that just 'being' is exciting enough for our wee babies at the moment.

We have a kind of routine at nightimes which involves Boob1, bath, Boob2 then bed but it can happen anytime bewteen 6.30pm and 8.00pm depending on how tired lily seems and whether she has slept during the afternoon. Each morning Lily also has a self-imposed nap about 1/1.5 hours after waking up which if had at home in peace and quiet can last upto 3 hours which I find strange as (1) she will just have slept for anything between 9 and 12 hours overnight and (2) Her big sister was exactly the same!

Monkeygirl please stop fretting about breastfeeding!! I can't really add anything constructive to help, I am sorry, but as Skara said take it a day at a time and whilst I may be shot for this if it is making you bloody miserable it is not best for Alex and of course is not good for you. Whilst I am in school teacher telling off mode will you stop worrying about dieting too. You have for the rest of you days to lose some of the baby padding so wait until you are feeling more settled!

DH is back from his business trip tomorrow so (1) I can get a cuddle and some adult company after 6pm and (2) I can get a break!!!!!!! Lily changed on Tuesday from 'Perfect Baby' to 'Devil Child' although thankfully she is still sleeping really well at night - proably because she is tired with all her whinging during the day. Just a phase I am sure/I hope/Ipray . She now weighs in at 15lbs on the dot and 63cm long so still a big girl. And I think it is her bizzare sleeping patterns which mean that she gets tired and grumpy as the day progresses but currently does all her day time sleeping in the morning so is not ready/able to have a sleep in the afternoon.

On the strange singing when my PPH was being treated after Lily was delivered I was begging for a general as I didn't want to see/hear what was going on in theatre but was told couldn't have one. Next thing I remember I am singing VERY loudly 'We all live in a yellow submarine etc.', much to the amusement of all theatre staff so you are not alone in providing random amusement in times of stress MG.

Skara - I want to live in your chilled out house please?

Right I am off for a G & T, take care all.