June Babies - come out, come out, wherever you are...

[Skara]

Hoping this might tempt fate on the June list and produce some more June babies

Hello,

All gone kinda quiet here hasn't it? We are doing fine, feeding well, growing fat, (Lily that is not me..)sleeping not too bad and basically getting to know each other.

DD1 is still a bit OTT with Lily but hopefully the excitement will (must?) wear of soon.

DH back at work and in three days I have managed to spend a fortune - new rule imposed from tomorrow, no purse when near shops only enough change for a coffee!!

Had thought I was looking not too podgy this morning and then caught sight of myself in shop window and realised I must be serioulsy deluded as I am still the size of a horse - had been so proud a getting into a pair of jeans too!! (okay to be fair they were fat day jeans but hey .

Right DH has just made a scrummy dinner so I am off to munch and have my very first glass of wine. (And we can forget about the case I ordered the other night.)

Take care all.

Having been the size of a horse, I am amazed at how much I have slimmed down! Not gloating, you understand, because

1. My belly is still very floppy. Does anyone have any tips on regaining muscle tone?
2. Related to that is anyone else getting tummy aches? like ligament pain you get in pregnancy, but I am getting it post-partum! I don't remember this with the others.
3. For post-partum bleeding... is it ok to use tampons after a while? I hate pads and am fed up with how they mean I end up with grotty knickers.

cavy I was gonna ask the same re tampons! I have decided to use em anyway! it doesn't hurt to get em in & out & I just hate the way pads make me feel.

i am sure when i had ds my HV said so long as it is comfy & u change em regularly it's ok.

my belly is slowly returning to normal, but I don't know when/ how all these extra wrinkles of skin are gonna go! - my belly is wrinklier than Norah Batty's stockings at the mo!

dd is incredibly hard to wind - she refuses to burp - then ends up with either hiccups or being sick everywhere. last night she was really hard to get to sleep - I think it's made worse by me being so tired. dunno what it'll be like when dh goes back to work next week!

DD gave DS a "kiss" last night & this morning. she was hungry & rooted on his cheek - which he loved cos he really thought she was giving hima sloppy kiss! soo cute - must get video camera out next time!

boobs have settled down finally & dd is my little 3 hourly alarm clock - I could set my watch by her!

best go now - got visitors this aft

BW

Don't know about the tampons but I know personally I couldn't even attempt to get one in at the moment - still feeling tender and a bit sensitive about my nether regions!

As for jelly bellies - pre-six weeks shouldn't you just be holding tummy muscles in and then after crunches and back strengthening execises which also helps with tummies? (said she who still has jelly belly from dd1 so who am I to give advice!!).

And no I haven't been getting any pains now - perhaps that needs checking out with your doctor.

Alex is officially getting more 'difficult' though I should be glad in a way cos it means he's becoming more aware of his surroundings. At night he doesn't cry but grunts and toots in his sleep and it doesn't help that he has his first cold. But still love that he is so squidgy and cuddly. Bad mummy though - must get him weighed to make sure I'm not actually starving him.

Are others finding their feeds are getting more spaced out because mine seem to becoming more and more frequent?

Gomez - am ashamed to say I have had several glasses of wine already, and now our Tesco bills are starting to rocket again. If I could bear to take dd1 out on the buggy board (God they're awkward aren't they) I too would have spent a fortune by now but I have become a bit of a couch potato, only going out to dd1's nursery and the supermarket occasionally. I need to solve that one or I will go stir crazy.

hi all
DH has gone back now feeling low when i get the chance to think about it but DD and DS keep me on my toes.
HV came round and weighed Scott on wednesday he weighed 7lb 10oz so he has gained just under a pound in 10days. I have had to put him onto formula for all feeds as my milk seems to have stopped. I have to wake him for his day feeds and the time it was taking me to express every feed for him along with everything else. i do feel really guilty and I am now really starting to wonder what iit is with my kids as neither of them have wanted to or couldn't latch on. i do feel like a bad mammy. Atleast he had 12days of ebm.

Gad to hear everyone is ok and hopefully the others will be joining us soon.

I am almost certain I have the baby blues as I keep bursting into tears, am hoping it will go but i had severe depression (started 3years ago and lasted 18months had to have counselling,and antidrpessants) and I am hoping that it is not making a come back, so if you don't hear from me for a while it is because i am busy and trying to keep my chin up with out bringing others down.

Take care all xx x x x x

Sorry that br'feeding didn't work for you, Karen. .
N. has gained 1 lb+4oz (2 oz/day!) in last 10 days. Woohoo! At this rate, he'll be in 3-6 month clothes by 6 weeks. . He poops for England, though. Has terrible nappy rash. .

Karen, really sorry to hear about the bf not working out but I hope it doesn't spoil things for you. You are certainly not a bad mummy. You tried, it didn't work out, it doesn't matter in the great scheme of things. I'm also feeling down still and, although I know depression is a different matter from baby blues, feel free to rant here if you need and want to. These first few weeks can be hell, can't they, no matter how lovely and sweet the babes are.

Well now that I've started typing A is beginning to squeak so have to go already!

Take care all

HI all, think it was touch of baby blues now rather than the depression coming back which is good. I think it is just that so much is going on still what with my dad still having the fits and being on his own ( I don't like to go over on my own with the children as it scaresthe hell out of me bless him.) and my mam and her ex still living in the same house (as are me DD and DS)and DH not being here. DH has been phoning me daily to get updates on DS and DD and to inform me on how the unpacking s going as we got our house at the weekend . DD, DS and I are moving out there on the 7 th August so not long now and I can't wait.

DS has got a cold and his poor little nose is really snuffly. He is feeding well though so that is good. He now weighs 8lb2oz. He had the little bit of cord that is left cortorized (sp) this afternoon as it just wouldn't dry up.

DS is still really good on a noght last night he was up twice due to his cold, ( I think it is making him thirsty). The night before he had a bottle at 21.30 and went don till 3.45 then was back asleep by 4.05 till 9.15, so i can't complain on that front.

Hope you are all okay. Has anyone heard any news from Secure.

Karen - good news on your mood and the house -all sounds very exciting for you!!

Well I had a crap day today. Went to baby clinic which was so crowded. Ds decided to scream the place down and was the only baby crying. Then I was the only mum bfing there which made me feel self-conscious (I thought they'd be at least one other mum doing the same instead of all staring at me). Dd was playing up and wrecking the place whilst I tried to calm ds. Then was told ds had not put any weight on . Part of me was glad that he is now not so large and is distinctly average and the HV said she was not worried cos he had no failure to thrive signs (ie sunken fontanelle, lifeless and floppy, dry skin, not feeding) but of course, me being a born worrier will now worry a little bit.

Apart from that life is fine! Well apart from the tiredness and feeling like a crap mum to dd1.

Rant over - how is everyone else doing?

(btw Karen, Secur had baby - see June thread).

Secur, and I am now obsessed with weight, how much did db weigh??

Skara - I am both excited and terrified at the thought of embarking yet again on another diet, sorry lifestyle change. I did lose 1.5 stone just before I conceived but managed to wipe that out with my total chocolate obsession during and after pregnancy - it's never been this bad!

A today has cried and cried and cried and as usual I gave in and put him on the breast before I wanted to, but I wanted to officially note that he gave his first smile this morning .

Hello hello hello.....

I am back (in case anyone noticed I was missing) - no exciting reason really. Had a nice weekend away, and just been busy trying to entertain DD1, who like your eldest Skara is trying to love DD2 to death. DH is back a travelling a fair bit so by the time I am finished putting DDs to bed, potter about, express and have a wee glass of vino it is bedtime!

Pleased everyone is doing well - Lily is fine, going to brave the HV scales tomorrow as she looks like she is about to burst - tubby girl that she is! Sleeps well, is smiling, chatting, cooing and generally pretty good - for now!

I too wil be heading for the dieting bfs thread soon, week Monday to be precise. But I am back into pre-preggo jeans (lycra content is quite high to be fair ) Just a shame they are a size 16 and I was a porker before I got pregnant.

Right need to do some ironing ( as a nod towards economy cleaners are still in place but no longer do ironing - to my shame I will need to hide the bl**dy huge pile from them on Friday....... DH reckons that after a c-section I needed to keep a bit help for a while and I was not going to correct him - i.e lazy gene is why housework doesn't get done nowt to do with c-section.

Okay take care all

Hi all, Scott has started to smile now only once or twice. He was really unsettled on Tuesday and i didn't know what to do with him as he normally sleeps so well day and night in his moses basket and he is normally so contented only crying to let me know he has a dirty nappy or is hungry. but on Tuesday he just wanted to be held all day which knocked me for six as i couldn't get on and do the hw etc. he is today back on form though so he must have been having a bad day, and the thrush he has in his mouth can't be helping but the Nystan seems to be working. He still only wakes up once a night between 4 and 5 after having a feed between 10 and 11. tonight he had 8oz in two hours!!! so I am taking him to get weighed tommorrow, last week he weighed 8lb 2oz.

Only three weeks on saturday till we move to Cyprus and I can't wait. Dh is coming back in two weeks so we can go up north for a few days to introduce Scott to the rest of the family up there and to say our goodbyes.

Hope everyone is ok. Take care.

k

Your HV sounds sensible. Breastfed babies have growth plateaus, don't they? Do you have lots of wet/dirty nappies, MG? If it's coming out, must be going in.

Not to boast -- actually a little worried it doesn't seem normal. But Nicky is definitely smiling, altho he's barely 3 weeks old! BIG smiles when tickled, sometimes at people. Is this normal? Skara, do you have smiling, yet?

Having very rough nights, otherwise. ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz....

one hand...we have smiling! just now to be precise. j is obviously a true mumsnet babe - beamed first at me then at the screen then at me again. I'll take that as approval

have to run, other (neglected) children calling

Molly is well settled now. she has even let me sleep for 5 hors the last 2 nights. put her down after feed at midnight then she didn't wake till 5am!!!
either that or i was too knackered to hear her!

i am struggling with only one thing at mo - & that is nursing bras for my humungous boobs. nothing seems to offer the support i want.

dd was 8lb14 on mon. so is putting on weight nicely.

my HV has just changed i got a call yesterday to say they are changing the case loads. I really liked my old HV. hope this one is as nice.

only 3 weeksnow till we go away on hol for a week to Devon. then is back for a week & off to guide camp. - I must be mad.

best go now - got to take ds to a party.

BW

Oooh luxury, A is asleep again now without me having to shove a breast in his mouth. I've been reading Secrets of the Baby Whisperer and whilst I am not following it exactly I have taken a lot of what it says on board for the first time today and (whispers), it's been a bit better today. But then he's been asleep loads so I will probably suffer for it tonight....

Am I the only one who doesn't have an Angel baby?? He is lovely but has, as Skara put it about her first 2, some 'challenging' traits.

Karen - Scott sounds like he's doing brilliantly, especially at night - how did you manage that?

HV is coming again tomorrow to weigh him (very unusual practice here). What is it about them that puts me into a panic about things??

MG- I am just lucky i think as DD was exactly the same, saying that last night was a bad night ( for us anyway) he fed at 12.30 3am and 6am .
Had him weighed today and you could have knocked me over with a feather he has put on 12oz in a week he now weighs 9lb.

Must go, going to have a bath then bed.

Hi all
everythings going ok here. I have to say though that little Grace has been a bit of a challenge to settle in the early evening from 5 ish to 9 ish. It has been a bit of a learning curve as this is (naturally!) the busiest time for me with dd1. This is when I make her tea and she has a bath and is she is at her most demanding as shes starting to get tired - so lump that together witha crying baby and its a bit stressful. But, it is getting easier as I am finding a few ways to combat the insaneness.How do some of you cope with more than 2 kids!??
Once Grace is settled at night she has slept well though. She has gone 5-6 hours between feeds some nights and then 4 hours after that so I am pretty happy with that for a 3 week old.
I am glad to read about other crying babies here though as I'm sure Grace cries more than dd1 ever did! Other than that she is doing great - feeding well - apart froma slight dose of thrush on my nipples! grrr - and has put on weight well. Not sure what it is in lbs but so far has gained 700gms since birth.
Glad to hear that you will finally get to move Karen. You must be getting excited!
Hope everyone is doing well.

I think I am going mad, i am missing being pg and have been today thinking when to start trying for no 3!!!I would love to sooner rather than later but will probably leave it and try to fall this time in 2yrs so that I can enjoy Scotts first years and major milestones.

Do you think I am mad????

I am really looking forward to getting out to Cyprus now to have my own house and furniture and to be a family again At the mo I am feeling like a glorifid house keeper here as I am doing all the house work and majority of the cooking plus looking after Nicole and Scott. Don't think my Mam can remember back to 1976 when she had me and how she felt afterwards.

Oh well pull yourself together karen. Scott has just started to cry must go and see to him.
Take care all.

N. seems to prefer being cuddled rather than fed to sleep, too. He's also difficult between about 6-10pm, most evenings (very alert, won't settle easily). But he has the most fantastic smile, too. .

Am finding life with 3 extremely stressful, Karen -- sorry, but I wouldn't recommend it! My older 2 are such good friends, though, am hoping that N. will become their next best playmate, too.

That said, I do feel half-broody, though. Hard to think I'm "done", will never be pregnant again, etc. Esp. when I pull out DD's old pretty clothes and think that they'll never get worn again (snivel, snivel).

Cavy - A wees for England and used to poo lots but has only done 2 small poos in nearly 3 days now - anyone else find that the poos are less frequent (and whilst I'm on such a pleasant subject he's farts are very smelly!)? You're lucky if you are getting smiles - must be nice to be rewarded for not sleeping!

A is not smiling yet (although I'm sure he's practising!) but, touch wood, the crying is getting a bit less. He's also just about lost his grasp reflex which I find quite sad about stupidly.

Where is everyone else - would love to hear about those other babies and how they are doing.

Well Karen, I bet a lot of us are actually mad!Even though I wrote somewhere on here about shooting me if you found me on the Trying to Conceive thread, I too feel broody occasionally, especially when I think that my child bearing days are over (even if physically I am able to iyswim). But I don't know if I can go through another pregnancy and then all this newborn baby stuff again unless you could absolutly guarantee me an Angel baby. I don't mind the sleepless nights, it's the crying that gets to me. Then I think what's to come (terrible twos, trantrums, potty training etc etc) and how my life will be and I can put myself off it, although I know it brings immense joy as well. But as has been said on another thread, you wouldn't regret having another child (probably!) but would if you wanted to try and didn't.

Anyway A has mostly been better although yesterday afternoon and evening were full of grizzle and cries and screams (God but he's loud and not easily soothed). took him out twice in buggy as well instead of just throwing him into the car. He's actually put on weight, but not much, so sounds like you are all catching up with me! However, HV did tell me that either he has some kind of infection or he has big balls of which he will be proud when he's older!

Now both dd and ds are asleep, dh is in the bath and so it's almost like it was 4 years ago when it was just me...aaahhhhh.....but I love them all dearly of course

hi all, we have had the communication lines reconnected
BT took forever to organise our broadband, but we are here, have survived the move and everyone is still relatively sane and in one piece. Haven't checked to see what the news is on Secur, Lazyeye and Cathncait so am off to do that shortly, assuming J carries on kipping on my arm as he is at the moment! Glad to hear everyone is pootling along ok. I am currently the size of a (sagging, wobbly) house and must do something about it at some point when I can stop eating everything that isn't nailed down! J is still easy, laid back and no trouble at all - third time lucky as the other two are being a little (ahem) challenging, shall we say...no1 is trying to love J to death, and no2 is just being a bit 2-ish. Have absolutely no idea what this little one weighs, having not had him done since he was 16 days old (was 9lb 4oz then though, so I reckon at 6 weeks he must be 12lb or so?). He scoffs loads but very fast, just like the other two - five minutes is about it apart from his evening scoff-fest which takes longer. I have to run, I can hear no1 screeching and about to wake the other one...tis lovely to be back though! Can't wait to catch up

Welcome back Skara - nice to have you back and lucky you with J.

I take back everything I said about A's crying - he screamed and screamed today and only wanted to be put on the breast to help him sleep.

Please someone tell me they ctart to cry les at about 6 weeks or is my memory playing tricks on me?

I am still the size of a Victorian House and have joined the dieting bfers thread in the hope that it will shame /motivate me into actually doing something and sticking to it this time.

Speaking of which, must go and have some choc!

Take care all.

Hi MG, tis nice to be back . Yes I think they're supposed to settle at 6 weeks or so, or at least be a bit more easy to put down - think my first two didn't read that bit of the baby manual though. Hope A is currently being peaceful while you eat that choc, talking of which have just seen your post on the dieting bfers thread and as J was 6 weeks on Sun I now have no excuse . However have accidentally consumed 3 jam doughnuts this evening and rather too much home made bread (new breadmaker = calorific nightmare)! Off to join you there...