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Skara · 18/06/2004 11:39

Hoping this might tempt fate on the June list and produce some more June babies

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monkeygirl · 20/07/2004 10:58

Ok, I don't think I'm going mad but the posts are all in a funny order with the wrong dates on them. Either that or I'm drunk or on drugs and don't realise it.

Actually managed to but A in his cot without having to feed him in bed first last night and he slept for 4.5 hours before needing another feed which I was chuffed at cos he'd been just 'snacking' all day. Mind you he did only catnap all day to make up for it.

A in fact often catnaps and wakes himself up soooo easily which makes him cross and frustrated - is this common?

Are all you ladies and babes ok out there?

karen01 · 20/07/2004 12:03

MG- I noticed the posting dates were all up the creek to thought i was having de ja vue!!!

Scott and I are doing fine, I wanted to start doing some packing yesterday but he was awake for most of the day, something was rattling him. He must have exhausted himself out as since 8.30 last night he has woke up to feed thn just gone straight back of to slep. His night time pattern has changed now also, he has a bottle between 8 and 9pm then sleep till 1.30-2.30 am then goes till 6.30am. Which is good because i can get him fed, washed and changed and back to sleep before i wake Nicole up for school and get her ready.

DH keeps telling me how hot it is in cyprus apparantley at the mo it is 45degrees during the day and between 25 and 30 on a night. I am dreading coping in the heat. On the plus side I don't think Scott will be needing many clothes in 0-3 months size as he will be in just a nappy and in the shade.

Better go and get some jobs done before he wakes.

Hope you are all ok.

cathncait · 20/07/2004 12:50

hi all
mg - Have to agree that my dd is also having catnaps. Occasionally has a longer sleep but seems to wake herself up fairly often. Except at night where she goes for a longer stretch- whew!

Took me forever to get dd to sleep last night, then when I did she woke up for a feed! A bit frustrating, but then she went for 6 hours then straight back to sleep for another few hours.
Just start feeling like there might be a bit of a pattern emerging then it all goes all over the place again. I guess this is pretty normal though.
But i am coping alright. Just wish she would let me put her down for more than 5 minutes at a time. dd1 used to lay happily opn the floor for ages (although she may have been older - can't remember).
Anyway, dd2 is now aking up so gotta go. Take care all

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monkeygirl · 20/07/2004 21:41

Cathncait - know what you mean about them being erratic but a six hour sleep is great! I'm quite lucky in that I am able to put A down sometimes - and I use a dummy and don't care! But I'm sure he is going to be a thumb sucker when he can finally get them in his mouth properly. Apart from that I think we may have similar babies at the moment.

But I have been rewarded with some squeals and lots of smiles and alertness. It's starting to get really good seeing how they develop but I'm still not coping with 2 very well. At least dd is definitely loving her bro more and tries to kiss him all the time - ah bless!

monkeygirl · 22/07/2004 21:30

Ok don't know where anyone else is but I'm treating this thread a bit like my own blog (sorry).

A is definitely calming down a bit although he still has the screaming abdabs (especially when I'm driving and I can't stop and see to him - he's got a sixth sense for it), mostly when he's tired. For the past few days, when he has had a good feed he just spends his time staring at me. It's cute and unnerving at the same time and I don't remember dd1 doing it this much. He also seems to be coping my talking actions.

I'm off for his 6 weeks check tomorrow - can't believe it's been that long and have been sneakily looking at the other pregnancy threads wistfully - somebody stop me .

Karen - are you packed up yet?

Skara - hope you haven't deserted the other thread - need you to hold my hand, so to speak cos it is not going well (I'm back on the wine yet again tonight).

Oh well, am yabbering to myself so better go off and do something useful (like catch up on some other threads)

Cavy · 23/07/2004 20:21

I'm reading yr messages, MG! I think of lots of things to say/ask every day, but forget them all by the time I get onto MN so just lurk instead.

I am starting to suss N. out, esp. when he's tired & not truly hungry. He continues on 75th percentile. I think it's all length; he's in 3-6 m. clos, now. I had to dig some summer clothes out for him, stuff his brother was still wearing when 7 months old!

N. us. only sleeps 3-5 hr stretch, max. at night, but I'm coping ok emotionally/mentally. Better than when I was pregnant, tbh.

Today I had delivery men in just as the 2yo needed a poop & the baby woke up ravenous. After taking DD to the loo, & then talking to the men all the while juggling a bobbing/whinging baby on my shoulder, I look down & saw I was leaking milk right through my shirt. .

Cavy · 23/07/2004 20:59

ps: DS2 mostly sleeps in a rocking carseat, naps in day in house, and 6-8 hours at night. I am sure I was told that sleeping in carseats is ba... but he really prefers it to sleeping flat. I have him propped up in the pushchair, too. Does anyone why sleeping propped up is so bad? He has pretty good head control, if that's the issue.

Skara · 23/07/2004 22:02

Cavy J is the same and likes the bouncy chair thing or a cushion under his head in the moses basket, which, I imagine, is highly suspect in the world of health visitors etc .

I am here, just at the moment with the summer holidays just starting, I'm finding it virtually impossible to get here during the day at all as no1 (4) and no2 (2) children are spending most of their days hanging off me like limpets or trying to kill each other. I'm also in the middle of potty training plus of course having just moved house... it's chaos!

So, while I can (and I'm meant to be doing online banking, but never mind) a quick update:

J is still incredibly laid back and peaceful, just as well really as the other two are really trying me out at the moment . He sleeps in the bed with us, wakes once or twice between 11 and 6 for a feed but I don't really notice cos he never seems to need a nappy change so I just latch him on and go back to sleep! It's a huge relief after no2, who didn't like lying down at night at all. I still feel absolutely knackered though, I think it's looking after 3 of them and even though J sleeps well compared to the others, I'm still only getting 3 or 4 hours in a row so it's no wonder I put shampoo on my toothbrush yesterday.

He's still sleeping for most of the day too but when he wakes up he's gorgeous, looking around and cooing at things - at this stage no2 who is also a boy was standing up in a wobbly manner when we held him on our knees, but he's too laid back for any of that. He's getting good at holding his head up though. Still can't work out his eyes - sometimes they look bluey grey, others they look brown - when do they change?

Eek must go and do all the boring stuff I'm meant to be doing online, more soon

xxx

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cathncait · 24/07/2004 07:13

Well we've had an interesting few days. DD1 managed to get a bad cut on her forehead on wed at a birthday party ( iwasn't surprised as she is always falling over). So we had a trip to emergency dept with her - they glued it closed much to my reief . I was horrified at the thought of holding her down while they stitched her head! Her head is fine though, but now she has a virus and so does new dd . all that waking and not settling suddenly got worse - particularly at night. Oh well, she will improve , she just looks so sad . Poor baby. dd1 is coping with it much better of course but still managed to wake up at night with a temp last night - how much being awake can one person handle!
on the brighter side Grace is now starting to smile beautifully and genuinely and making a few cooing noises now and then. More and more like a person each day
It really does go fast when you think about it doesn't it?

monkeygirl · 24/07/2004 09:03

Nice to hear how everyone is doing. But poor you Cathncait - it's horrible when any kids are ill but especially when they are so tiny. How's your dh?

Cavy - I remember hearing that excessive periods of sleeping in carseats was not good for babies with dd1 but nobody has said it this time round so don't know if it is still up to date info. Don't know about you but I have never heard or read of anyone having had a problem because of it. And we all do it don't we??

Skara (I'm stalking you today!) A sleeps in bed with us for the second half of the night and I do exactly the same - latch him on and go to sleep. I usually wake up with a baby under my armit - the hvs would have a fit .

Everything was fine at his 6 week check and yes he just has big balls - lucky boy! He even smiled at the doctor, his first smile for a stranger. He's put on a few more ounces so now both his weight and length are on the 50 centile line. But just when I think well nothing to worry about then, hv tells me his head's quite big but that we won't worry about it at the moment!

Apart from that A is at the moment just the sweetest baby - will lie in his cot without anyone in the same room and go to sleep (usually), although he is still very good at waking himself up, but calm and smiling and cooing when awake.

But DD1 has develoed quite a bad stutter recently. I'm hoping it's just a phase but it's quite distressing cos it obviously bothers her which breaks my heart - has anyone else encountered this?

Oh well end of essay and dd1 is trying to get my attention, poor kid.

See y'all.

karen01 · 25/07/2004 23:14

MG- Ia mdoing a little bit each day (started today) DD has gone to her dads so i ony have Scott for the next week. DH come home next Saturday (31st), we are going up north on the Monday till thursday then we will go to my dads for a few hours to say our goodbyes. My mam is having a fairwell bbq for us on Thursday night,(not sure if i am supposed toknow as she hasn't mentioned it to me my aunty told me on friday
Friday evening we will book our bags etc in then fly out early saturday morning. That is the plan but there is a problem with the flights at mo I am waiting for Moving dept to send me some paperwork so I can give them all the ino they need to confirm the flight. Got Scotts passport through the other day. he is his dads double, bless !!!
I am abit worried with getting everything over so far I think we will have 6 suitcases, the pushchair, carrycot, car seat and base, moses basket, woth stand, and floormat. It is going to be interesting. I think my uncle is getting us a mini bus to get to the airport. I know when we land DH friend and his girlfriend are picking us up bring ther landrover and our prejero to pick us up so one car for the luggage and the other for us.!!!!

I am starting to feel alittle aprehensive about it all now, when DD finished school it really hit me that we were saying our goodbyes, all her teachers came out to say goodbye and to give her a big hug. It brought tears to my eyes. (speaking of her and school on a high note she scored all above average on her Stats am I proud or what.)

I am sure once i get ut there we will be fine. Our parents have all booked to see us. My mam is coming out 20th August for 10 days. My dad is coming end sept beg oct for a week to 10 days, DH mam and dad are coming mid oct, DD dad is coming in oct sometime. So far we have Nov free then DH parents coming again for xmas. (I think we will be busy.
Changing the subject.
I am still feeling really broody, but getting the coil fitted this week. Scott is still really good, his night time pattern seems to change every couple off nights but he still only wakes once or twice. His cold still hasn't gone completly and his tummy button is still weeping but drs and hv said it is quite common!. when he was weighed on Thursday he weighed 9lb8oz. The Hv is coming to the house on wednesday for his 6week check I am going to ask her to measure him as well as weigh. He is smiling a bit more frequntly now.
Going to go to bed and get some sleep.

Take care all. Sorry for the drabble!!

Gomez · 25/07/2004 23:34

Hello All,

Once again another protracted absence - sorry. Just so busy with DD1 off Nursery and boy does she have a busy social life. I read everyone elses news and start to reply, lose the plot and then give up. I am interested in everyone else honest I just seem to be unable to retain information and then match it to a name!

We are all well, Lily is a wee star bar - although in fact resembles Buddah Baby. She sleeps well and is doing the cooing, kinda laughing thing - so sweet. I am sure DD1 was hardly awake long enough at 6 weeks to do anything except feed and poo! She is also sleeping from around 8ish to 5ish but I am still knackered. Also think that must have something to do with the fact that we put her to sleep on her tummy (founder member of the Bad Mother Club me...) as she will not settle on her back at all.

Right off to order some new re-useable nappies for tubby as the first size are a bit tight to say the least and then check into the Lactating Losers thread as my weight lose campaign begins tomorrow.....

take care all and hopefully catch up soon!

Good Luck Karen!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

monkeygirl · 26/07/2004 23:12

Gomez - welcome back. Do you mean to tell me that your dd sleeps 9 uniterrupted hours ?? Actually my dd1 was (nearly) always a good sleeper, and I think that was because she slept in our bed on her side. This time I am trying to keep Alex in his cot (which I manage half the night) so may try full nights soon to see if this extends his sleep time. Some nights I kid myself that I am getting used to less sleep but I could really do with several hours on the trot.

Karen - don't envy you doing all that packing but I'm sure it will be great once you start your new life out there. Are you still feeling 'blue' or are you feeling better?

Went for my 6-week check-up but doctor didn't bother turning up! Still all is not well down there as I have been having slight bleeding. God when will it ever end?

At least Alex is making up for it by being very sweet and smiley and alert, although he does love his sleep much more than his food (can he reallyt be a son of mine !). We took him out on a day trip today and it was the first time I felt quite relaxed, knowing that he probably wouldn't just scream.

Skara - meant to say that dd1's eyes didn't change colour until after about 9 months. It can take up to a year, can't it?

Anyway, off to try and get some sleep before the boy starts nurdling, as we call it in this house.

Night all.

monkeygirl · 26/07/2004 23:13

Meant to say in last post try to keep him full-time in our bed!

Gomez · 27/07/2004 19:35

Thanks monkeygirl - I am indeed a lucky mare as Lily is still sleeping v. well. If she doesn't need to poo then we get a good stretch from her - total bonus which will I am sure all go wrong at some point. Either that or she will turn into a juvenille delinquent as payback in 15 years time.

Weight loss campaign has started with an added incentive. We are hoping to take a wee holiday beginning of September and I currently have a very limited wardrobe, which I refuse to extend!! So I must lose (I reckon) at least 10 lbs over the next 5 weeks to fit into some more clothes. The pressure is on .

Good Luck Karen - I hope your sunny new life is all you hope for .

Hello to everyone else. Hope DD1 is fully recovered CathnCait.

Did anyone/everone else get an internal (and a bloody smear) at their six-week check. I was surpised as after DD1 I didn't so sailed in expecting the usual how are you and what do you want to do about contraception to be told to jump on the couch and get my kit off!! BTW Monkeygirl I am still getting a little bleeding too and GP said was not unusual.

Right off to feed the milk machine into submission and hopefully another good nights sleep.

Take care all

Gomez · 27/07/2004 19:36

Sorry meant a good nights sleep for her - I have still got DD1 and snoring DH to contend with. After I bring washing in, load dishwasher etc. etc.

karen01 · 28/07/2004 01:42

I have my 6wek check on Thursday not looking forward to the internal. I am (hopefully) having the coil fitted, but i have been having period like pains for couple of days now and have noticed a funny discharge, hoping it is nothing.

DH informed me today that he needs to come back to the Uk for a 3wk course and it looks like it could be spetember, so no sooner do i get out there for us to be together then I am going to get left alone again with the children in a strange place, just my luck!!!. This is to be confirmed asap. (Don't really know why I am having the coil fitted as I was under the impression we need to see each other to have sex. ) Got to make a joke out of it asi could just cry.

On the whole though I am not feeling so blue anymore just trying to look at the positive side of things. I really need to spend the next few days sorting out and packing as I keep going out and round to friends. Need to have more disciplin.(sp)

Scott isa been a real sweety, over the last two days he has started to stare at my face when I am holing him and this huge grin appears. makes everything worth it.

Once I have got this move out of the way I seriously need to lose some weight, I have had to buy new clothes at a size 22 so I think lots of excersing and healthy food for me as of August ( she says!!!) I am going to aim to lose 4 stone. (I said that after DD I manged to lose 3 and a bit then but 2 stone back on last time)

Anyway must go and get some sleep.

Take care all and hope all is ok.
BTW the sleeping in carseat business I remember hearing/been told some years ago (when I was training to be a nursery nurse) that it is because of the back that they say it is bad for baby to sleep in them as they should really be lied flat as much as possible. Not sure if information has changed over the years, but I do transfer Scott when we get home ( but he does like being on his back he will lie for ages to looking around). I only use the car seat with the pram if I know we are going to be less then 30mins in town if we are going to be longer I attach the carrycot on to ram instead.

karen01 · 28/07/2004 13:29

Scott has just been weighed and he weighs 10lb. HV and I are a little concerned re his sight as he is 6wks on sat and he doesn't fix onto an object or follow when it is moved. His right eye seems to be lazy also which makes it difficult for us to see if he is focusing his good eye on anything. He does follow an object occasionaly if it is placed right in front of him we think not sure if it is coincidental.(no more than 10cm away) His dad has very poor eyesight so I think he has inherited that, I am more hoping that he is just been a little slow in ths part of his development and when he has is 6-8wk check he will be fixing and following. HV also shined a light into his eye which he didn't really follow either . I really feel like crying at the mo thinking that there could be a problem with my beautiful baby boy. Hopefully I am know worring over nothing , HV had a word with the doctor and DR is going to look at him tonight, but did say that he is still very young .

Skara · 28/07/2004 13:48

oh karen, I really hope it's nothing. typing this one handed, have been reading but can't seem to get a minute to post cos of summer hols and children being demonic. fingers crossed for you xxxx

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Cavy · 28/07/2004 21:06

HI ladies! Sorry about the worries you've got, Karen. Let us know?

My middle baby also used to sleep 7-8 hour stretches by this age, but not Nicky! 4-5, if I'm very lucky, at most.
Yesterday I had my 6 week check 2 days early because my GP is away on holiday & I really prefer my own GP. Everything was ok.

I would put N. down to sleep flat on his back but he just doesn't -- stay asleep that way, I mean. He doesn't even sleep next to me in bed. The GP said his head control was very good, so hopefully he's strong enough to take it.

Is anyone else who is breastfeeding very very thirsty? I wasn't this thirsty with the others. I wonder if it's because he's a summer baby (others born in September). I can't believe how much water I drink.

monkeygirl · 28/07/2004 22:51

Karen, I've just read your posts and wanted to say so sorry to hear about Scott but fingers crossed that everything is ok and that it's just the usual health profession paranoia about every little thing.

Cavy, I am so thirsty all the time, although I'm finding it's not as bad as it was in the first 5 weeks. I even have to drink loads before bed even though it means going to the loo about 3 times a night. I remember the midwife telling me to drink loads and to always have a big glass of water when bfing so don't think it is the weather.

A is still finding it really hard to get to sleep - he has to fuss and sometimes cry himself to sleep and so it's a bit of a nightmare if he wakes himself up, which he often does. At lest he doesn't mind being in his cot alone in our bedroom.

Should we dropping nighttime feeds yet ie if alex wakes up every 3 hours does that mean I ought to feed him or should I just try to get him back to sleep without food at least once in the night?

Good luck Karen and take care
xx

karen01 · 29/07/2004 09:09

panick over it was the hv been over cautous (sp) i am also typing one handed holding scotts bottle with my cheek in his mouth.
Dr did say that he is looking at things but not fixing yet. but even if he needs glasses to me that isnt a problem as long as he has his sight,

must go for my check now.
mg i think they are still a bit young to drop feeds if they want it i would wait till atleast 3months

monkeygirl · 29/07/2004 11:20

Karen - a HV been over-cautious - surely not . That's great news for you both. TBH both me and my dh are both very short-sighted so our poor dd and ds have no hope of not wearing glasses sooner rather than later.

OK so no dropping feeds then for Alex unless he decides to go several hours without himself them.

Sorry but I still hate bfing this time round. We have been out several times to kid-friendly places recently and, apart from my local park, I have yet to see anyone else bfing apart from me. I spend my time trying to find a discreet place which I find almost impossible, even in open spaces. I hate bfing in public, even with a muslin or whatever over my shoulder.[double sigh]

I also managed to let dd catch sun on her face and ds just a bit on his legs - I am a bad bad mummy.

Bogwoppit · 29/07/2004 15:46

well it's been hectic here.

getting ready for ds b'day party on sat & going to numerous other b'day parties (July cripples my bank balance!)

dd has thrush. just been to hv & got drops for her & cream for me. she's been fussy feeding for a couple of days then today has obvious white patches. she must be so sore.

she was 9lb 13.5oz last thurs so is grwoing nicely. had to put her in her M wraps now over her tots cos small ones are too small.

off on holiday to devon for a week next fri - notat all organised, but I'm sure I will be packed ontime.

BW

karen01 · 30/07/2004 23:06

I am soooo excited and nervouse, DH comes back tommorrow, but that is when goodbyes begin as we are off next saturday. I still have so nmuch to do, well I think it looks more as at the mo I have things scattered all over as i keep moving things thinking I will pack that then I get side tracked and forget to do it. Will spend a couple of hours tommorrow finalising then get DH to help on sunday, before we go up north to say our farewells on monday.
I think I have been putting of the packing as it has been all talk for so long I can't actually believe that it is really happening now. Just think this time in 8 days I will be living in Cyprus. not sure how Nicole, Scott and I are going to be with the heat, (saying that the kids will probably be fine it will be me with all the excess weight aswell that will be in a heap in the living room under the fan . I am hoping that the weight will start to drop off.

Had my first night out last night with the girls, it was a really good laugh, One of my friends and I shared a 2pint pitcher of the cocktail Screaming Oragasm ( been so long since i have had either varity !! That mixed with wine and vodka yeah we had a good night. Got chatted up a few times which gave me a real ego boost. (Well it was dark adn wearing all black covers the extra curves, oohh and the cleavage helped!!!).

If I don't manage to post before i go will post once we have had our phone line installed.

Take care