MN Little Italy 16

[TheMysticMasseuse]

I HAVE STARTED A LITTLE ITALY THREAD!!!!

hooray for me!!!

Camo your DS is LOVELY!

Camo, surely the teacher should keep an eye and punish the pitas. In ds' class there is one bully, actually he is behaving a lot better now, schools around here are very focused on helping kids with problems and know how to do it, otherwise they are all pretty good. I do found that it is more the middle class kids from the seemingly good families who have kids who have bad manners though, no boundaries and an annoying sense of entitlement and little Honey or Ruby or whoever cannot ever do anything wrong.

Minerva, expats will never come back, only you and I were brave enough ... it'd be nice if young people started to react to the Italian situation (given that I think that young generations are mostly suffering... Italy is in fact a country for old men ).

Camo I agree with gio re speaking to the teacher and share your worries. I'm sure she'll reassure you and ask her to keep an eye on ds in the playground...

and ... the things they hear at school ...

Camo what a good boy
Bucharest I don't think I could cope down there its bad enough up here and we do have a bit going on as well.
DD now has a cough that sounds like a dog barking but temp seems to have gone. Took her out anyway and did back streets incase I met MIL I did meet one of her best friends so I have been rumbled anyway .
I am for measuring shoes simply as as I found out dd had narrow feet and in Italy they just kept saying she is between misure . She isn't so I guess I Will just have to find a make that fits her better here

Everything OK today, dd has been moved, but because the maestra wanted to move a monello, so her poor compagna di banco has the monello while Dd has been put next to my second favourite child in class, a lovely little girl who the Lardy-Bully-Built-like-a-boat girl already made cry a few days ago....

I might buy dp Gomorra for Christmas...he loves the south with a primal passion, but luckily he acknowledges its "lacune" (harump- bloody great chasms if you ask me)

PS- as for the book writing, it is a dream of mine..... There is a blog, but at the moment, I'm too shy to make it public

yesterday in a shop. boy of 4/5 with similar unform to dd1 tells her whether they are in the same school (they are not, thankfully). Dd1 is puzzled for a second and looks at me for help. Boy gets fed up with waiting, pushes her on the side then goes behind the till and starts pushing and touching everything. Lady tells him nicely that this is not the place for him and should get out. Boy smacks lady, walks away then turns arond and says loud and clear and with hooligan type expression: "You F**CK OF"!!!!

I think I gasped and had face while tutting. DD1 saw my shock and asked me what the boy had done and why he was so maleducato - she was amuzed and interested.

Mum nowhere in sight.

speaking of bad mums while I was telling you he amusing story dd2 went upstairs took out playmobil and started playing with them on her own properly - putting them to bed, feeding them, swings etc... DD1 just started playing with them now!

Oh Buch I think you should! You write brilliantly (and that's just what I've seen on MN!). It will be interesting as most books written about italy of that kind are often about bloody tuscany or umbria.

DBLP - it would be funny to see a 5YO looking like a hooligan, if it wasn't so tragic. But I worked in bad estates in the UK for a long time - and lonely 5 YO are not that unusual unfortunately

Buch - I still think you should go ahead with your book thing... I am sure you would be great at it. I want to read it so you have got your first buyer!!!

Thanks all with the shoes suggestions, will try them whilst looking for sturdy winter shoes. Hate the girly pink glitter shoes, they get all mucky straight away anyway.

Franca - It's true that I have returned... But I have not said I am staying forever yet...

MI, true ... we are not sure about the future either . However, it is lovely to be so close to friends and family that the idea of starting back again is quite scary.

We still own our house in the UK and aren't really thinking of selling it... we can't let go really

I'd go for a pair of Kickers for your dd, they are sturdy, great support and come in lovely/classic colours (I particularly like the red ones!). They even come with straps now instead of stringhe.

Pippi, your dd2 and playmobils made me . So cute!

Buch yes, write the book. I'm ready to pay even more if you dedicate a chapter to Scamy

thanks, yes, will speak to the teacher later if she's not too busy and other mums not too close...

at playmobil. thinking of getting some for DS as he found mine and my DB's when we were in italy (though my little playmobil girl has lost her pram and doll . DD instead likes playing with my very first doll (she does ninna nanna to her) and her brother's bulider's bench

agree with pippi, sick of hearing about rich italian/foreign people living the dream life in tuscany/umbria vigneti... so un-representative...

yes, not unusual for a 5yo to be out by himself... . or to use that language...

I have to say I spent a fortune on some Kickers for DD to wear to school, but I am very happy with them.

Yes I second what Pippi say re your book Buch, go for it. If you feel like emailing the address of your blog I would be interested to read it.

Re boy in shop, would that be less likely to happen in Italy does everyone think? I got told to get out of the fucking way by a 10yo a couple of years ago in the UK, I was pretty shocked.

Playmobil is the best!
My DS play with it too, I think he learnt watching DD.

Kickers are worth the price imho, and I've always passed them from ds to dd...

Yes, same situation could occur in Italy too... (and in very extreme scenarios do remember that 12 yrs old deal drugs for the camorra )
But yes, apart from extreme case scenarios lots of unsupervised, maleducati children here as well, sadly.

Oh how I used to love "No going back" with all those britons moving abroad with no idea whatsoever of where they were actually going... . But I did fell in love with that family who moved to Tuscany and decided to harvest olives. They went on having a huge number of children who spoke perfect Italian. They were lovely.

OMG really I would Probably have said go wash your mouth out but its not his fault he hasn't been educated properly .
Sputnik I find that the 14 + here are very rude - padrone della strada - tutto and very rude . I can onlly compare to my nieces in the Uk and they seem far better but then again I don't know them in a crowd.
Buch if you want a very good copy of Gomorra I have a spare as dh was given 2 and he never took it back - It hasn't been read .
Kickers always look good but never had a pair they look solid !

Franca there is a program on Sky Tuscany 6 years on about that family ....

I did like that one, I check their website every few months

at boy Pippi, although suppose not really surprised. One of my "OK DP I agree let's move back to Italy to have our child" moments was when i gave 50p to a (max) 8 year old outside our local shop for "penny for the guy", he looked in disdain at said 50p and said "ah fook off you tight c**t"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bucharest-get writing! i'll definitely buy your book as well. Plus let us know if you decide to publicise your blog, would love to read.Glad dd and mini mafiosa have been separated! And lol at the idea of Rosa lurking around the back alleys of Venice to avoid MIL.

at lovely compliments...I do like to make people laugh.... and I do agree it's time for a different take on the restoring-farmhouses-in-Tuscany motif......

Franca- I know what you mean about not selling the house in the UK- my Mum was really surprised when I said I would never ever sell our (her) house there, even if I do stay here forever...

I think the real horrific scary behaviour from children is more likely to happen in the UK than here tbh....I mean, there are divilspawn brats here, sure, but in the UK they are frightening, and hardly anyone dares confront this out of control behaviour anymore. I would be terrified to teach in England, whereas here, I don't feel that, and yet it's not my country so you'd think it'd be the opposite.....A combination I think of a near-total breakdown of family "values" in the UK- because of the non-existence of a "family" in the sense we know it, a destruction of the work ethic, and then added to the mix for good measure this whole PFB me-me-me mentality....

Also love Playmobil here, it's expensive, but my god it pays for itself....Dd is having the hospital for Christmas (to go with the house, supermarket and airport we already have cluttering the place) I found it on Boots.com on a 3x2 so will probably get it from there.....

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We have MOVED !!!!

ooooohhh, need to check boots out, got £60 worth of points, never know how to use them...