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francagoestohollywood · 24/09/2008 12:23

Ciao, hello, welcome!

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Brangelina · 01/12/2008 22:41

Lol, I'm having to tidy up before my cleaner comes tomorrow, Anything she finds on the floor gets chucked in the bin including DD's wonderful pictures. Did I tell you that DD is going to be a great artist?

SIL came over with PILs the other week to see DD, after - ooh- about 18 months. She then realised that we lived near to where she works and that it might be handy for us to have her DD when she has the odd weekend shift. TBH, I wouldn't really mind per se as it would be a playmate for DD, although it would be 8.30 on a Sunday morning, it's just that I hate things being taken fro granted when she spent so long avoiding me and being pally with the ex. Also she's quite vacuous and we have nothing in common. Ho hum. We exchanged mobile numbers and I'm waiting to see if she really will call. She mentioned something about an going to the cinema together . I can't wait . I'm sure she won't call.

Yours sounds much worse, you win the prize.

Brangelina · 01/12/2008 22:42

Buonanotte. I've got an early start tomorrow and need to be fresh. I have bad hair too, all that sleet, so will have to get up earlier to sort it out.

hothell · 01/12/2008 22:47

buona notte pippi..
rosa, i agree with bran, the milk is there, but i think you may need support,i am not sure where you will find a breastfeeding group con l'acqua alta though. The problem i see with formula in the evening is that the milk will stop being produced in the day too, so that the baby will end getting very little in the day and want to feed all night. I did this with ds because i was desperate for sleep, dp gave formula, after a few weeks the baby screamed when i gave him the breast but was happy on the bottle because it had learnt there was more milk in the bottle and was easier to get out. Sorry lots of advice is probably confusing, I agree with Pippi as well. All the best.

Brangelina · 01/12/2008 22:54

That's exactly what started happening with me Hot. It was then a hard climb to drop the bottles and get baby back on the breast 100%. I think if I'd had more support and consequently more confidence in the early nightmarish days I could have avoided all that. The support I got later from the consultorio was invaluable, I only wish I'd gone sooner isntead of listening to a stupid pediatra.

I really must go to bed now....

PippiCalzelunghe · 02/12/2008 08:26

quick update for hot.
book about de beu and sartre seems very good. read a couple of chapter last night and couldn;t put it down and that was the bit with no saucy details. it seems the author had done lots of research and spoken to sylvie and others.
must rush now.

brange... I'll do an prize winning speech later.

francagoestohollywood · 02/12/2008 09:18

Ciao ragazze, sorry I didn't stay yesterday, I thought you had all gone to bed/watch tv, and so while you were discussing simone and sartre I watched la serata di gala dell'isola dei famosi

I read two fantastic books (I think I mentioned it somewhere) this month. One is Richard Yates "Easter parade", the other is Sara Gran "Dope" a noir set in 1950's NYC between heroin addicts. Very good.

I loved sense and sensibility.

Have a good day Pippi, hope your dh is on the his way to full recovery, they always look terrible after the operation. Hope he's given lots of painkillers as well. Your sil sounds like a uber cow. But I seem to understand that your mil is very supportive of you, which is great .

I think it is very easy to question one's milk production. I remember the first days with ds, who not only wanted to eat constantly but cried constantly and never slept. Of course first thing I did was to question my milk supply. But I was lucky I had lots of friends (I was in italy when ds was born) who had already had babies and who were happy to give me lots of info.

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Rosa · 02/12/2008 11:08

quick post as dd in arms and dh on way back with dd1.
no consultorio today blessed aqua alta i went weekly with dd1 and i would be going today ...no off to pead for weigh in tom (aalta permitting) I let her feed as much as she wanted yest pm but again we had mega screaming and she suckled then fell asleep - putting her in her cot she slept 2 mins then we were off again ...i hate the formula with avengence but what do you do at 2am???
Pippi hope all well ith your dh and glad your mil is so nice and helpful.
tourist took pic of me today in wellies pushing pram through water!!!!!!

francagoestohollywood · 02/12/2008 11:33

lol at tourists taking pics of you!

Oh your poor dd (and poor sleep deprived parents!). Did you end up giving her a bottle? Does she settle after bottle? Or could it be tummy ache?

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Brangelina · 02/12/2008 12:30

Lol at the tourist pics! I must admit I've been flicking through Venice photos in the papers to see if there was a woman with a small baby. You'll be on a postcard somewhere soon, remember to demand your royalties!

I had the same prob re putting DD down, although not so much at night. I wasn't keen on the idea of co-sleeping to begin with, also because DP tosses and turns a lot, but in the end my lazy side took over and I'd let DD drift back off in my bed. Can you not try that? Maybe she just need reassurance too? Mine was quite clingy and I often had to carry her around in a sling.

Franca, I think when they're this tiny the formula just knocks them out as it's quite pesante and harder to digest. I know on my DD it had the effect of a sonnifero. She'd sleep for hours afterwards and I'd be dripping all over my nice black floor! there was no way I could wake her either.

francagoestohollywood · 02/12/2008 12:47

I see. But I would have imagined (still thinking about my colicky ds) that being harder to digest, the formula would have caused him worse tummy ache? Boh. I was so knackered that the idea of sterilizing bottles sent me into panic.

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francagoestohollywood · 02/12/2008 12:47

I see. But I would have imagined (still thinking about my colicky ds) that being harder to digest, the formula would have caused him worse tummy ache? Boh. I was so knackered that the idea of sterilizing bottles sent me into panic.

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Brangelina · 02/12/2008 12:54

Yes it does. The only time DD had colic she had it after a bottle of formula. BTW, you don't need to sterilise bottles any more, the leaflet di dimissione from Mangiagalli tells you to just wash in hot soapy water. When we were in hospital later they just told me to rinse the teat under the tap. I never sterilised a thing (am far too lazy) and DD was never ill. Gosh, I sound like one of those "I weaned on chocolate at 2 days and he's fine" people now. I'll stop there I think.

I had breakfast in Armani caffé this morning. It wasn't at all posh though, some of the chairs were ripped and scruffy. The brioche was nice though.

francagoestohollywood · 02/12/2008 13:18

Yes, I know you don't need to. But you know what it's like with a first baby etc and those hormones playing up.
But then again, ds put on weight steadily since day one, so there was no need to top up. I started to give him a bottle after he was 6 months.

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francagoestohollywood · 02/12/2008 13:19

where is the armani cafe?

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Brangelina · 02/12/2008 13:24

Via Manzoni, in the piazzetta next to the Montenapoleone metro. I have no idea if they charged Armani prices, someone else bought my coffee.

PippiCalzelunghe · 02/12/2008 15:31

hot when you applied to schools for your ds how many choices did you put down?

PippiCalzelunghe · 02/12/2008 15:31

hot when you applied to schools for your ds how many choices did you put down?

francagoestohollywood · 02/12/2008 15:32

ah ok, it's inside his store isn't it. There used to be a Nobu there as well, never been though
I must say that I prefer old fashioned, traditional pasticcerie or bars to designers cafes...

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francagoestohollywood · 02/12/2008 15:34

I put 2 pippi (when in the UK). Our local (3 mins walk) as 1st and another school (with a "better" ofsted, but a good 20 mins walk) as second. Luckily we got into our local (which is very small so has a small intake, but we were well into its catchment, so I knew we were safe)

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PippiCalzelunghe · 02/12/2008 22:14

thanks franca, I forgot your uk past ! I put my local (across the road) with little intake as first, then another lovely lovely school 3 min away as second. I don't really have a third choice although many other good primary around with mega intake.

PippiCalzelunghe · 02/12/2008 22:23

ps: de beavoire is very good. cannot put down. a serious one too, not very heat yet. already on page 100, mind you the fact that i've spent 4+ hours on the tube to and fro hosp might be a contributing effect to this literary burst!

hothell · 03/12/2008 09:45

i put one school as i was 100per cent sure he would get in - it is great if you have a school across the road, closeness is the priority i think.
any more gossip from the sartre de beauvoir double act? it sounds gripping..
any new fun italian writers any of you can recommend?
freezing here..i wonder if it will snow..

PippiCalzelunghe · 03/12/2008 09:47

I'm quite miserable today

hothell · 03/12/2008 10:24

why?

francagoestohollywood · 03/12/2008 11:14

what is the matter pippi? Is it because of dh? Or are you just knackered?

Hot, not exactly fun, but I loved Valeria Parrella "Lo spazio bianco" (ed Einaudi). I wanted to recommend it to you already, but I thought I'd better not doing it while you were all pg, as it is about a single woman in her 40s having a premature baby. It is set in Napoli. I think it is beautifully written and a great book on motherhood. I saw her interviewed by Augias on rai3 and I really liked her (she is in her late 30s).

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