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francagoestohollywood · 18/09/2007 09:51

Everyone's welcome

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francagoestohollywood · 04/11/2007 12:27

. I've just made the connection Ellbell

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Rosa · 04/11/2007 12:30

Hello ..I missed you all again I was on mn last night but went off just as you all started chatting !!! ELlbell did you come to Venezia ???
Baffi..mmmmm I am semi blonde so only have to attack when wearing full makeup which is now not very often at all. I have visions of very hairy Little Italy mums !! A bit like those cartoon characters that are all hair and hold wooden clubs!
My cold is much better but now dd has a runny nose but still eating. She took a LIndt chocolate ball today from the shop they have huge posh buckets of them right at her level she ate the lot . Problem is in order to get to the zona to get latte and proscuitto we have to pass the buckets...Whey do I think its going to be fun domani !!
Oh booked for the Uk Dec9th,,Hurrah !

francagoestohollywood · 04/11/2007 12:33

aha, well done for booking! I wouldn't worry too much, lindt is good chocolate (golosa emoticon).
Have to go and prepare some lunch for dd, provided she feels like eating. She's developed an addiction to the wonderpets. Will have to buy dvd before moving to italy.

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Ellbell · 04/11/2007 12:36

Rosa... yes, had a wonderful wonderful time. Saw the acqua alta last Friday (also hideous pioggia on Friday afternoon). Have been very busy since.

France ... it has been a horrible weekend. Still unclear whether I will need to go.

Ellbell · 04/11/2007 12:36

France? Sorry, Franca... lack of sleep and stress have affected my typing.

francagoestohollywood · 04/11/2007 18:59

France is ok . I'm sorry Ellbell, what a nightmare.

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hotHELL · 04/11/2007 20:36

What do bikers' boots look like????

I am fine here, almost told dh to go and farsi fottere last night, but restrained myself and we didn't argue. He gets on my nerves sometimes.

PippiCalzelunghe · 05/11/2007 08:00

ellbell!!!! I am without words, it really touched me too for various reasons.
well i'll be there in two weeks, please let me know if you are too and I can help in anyway.

Had a row with DH as well. this time I am well fed up and will have to resort to the 'we need to talk' business, as a few things needs to be sort out before DC2 comes out (who by the way is moving a lot already!). I am home sick today so although not well I hope I'll be able to get some peace which I never seem to get. anyway enough of this boring stuff.

francagoestohollywood · 05/11/2007 09:58

it must be this time of the year: bugs and rows with partners.
Pippi, enjoy a nice day of freedom, telly and mn . I'm taking dd to the library.

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hotHELL · 05/11/2007 10:06

I am having a day off as well, no ds, will potter to my heart's content. Saw the bikers boots in the guardian magazine in bed last night, they look great, but if i wore them i would just look crap, i am trying to go for a more bourgeois look these days, but don't manage at all, hardly manage to comb my hair in the morning.....
Not sure what happened to you ellbell, but hope you are getting lots of support.
No arguments with dh this morning, only 10am though! I am looking forward to a pregnancy today, we are starting to try next month for a possilbe autumn/winter child. Can't wait to feel pregnant, the sickness, the sleepines, stroppiness, etc.
I do think that having kids increases the chance of rows with partners.....

hotHELL · 05/11/2007 10:07

Ellbell, just made the connection. Heartbreaking! Hope you have somebody to talk to.....

PippiCalzelunghe · 05/11/2007 10:21

it def increases your chances hothell, I agree! I was thinking last night, what i would have done in a similar circumstances if there were no kids involved.
First of all we would not have had the row on the first place because before kids I was not expected to do things for DH, as he was capable of looking after himself. i'd also be working full time thus giving me 'rights' to be tired, stressed, fed up about my day and to allow me therefore to do nothing in the evening and weekends.
if a row would have occurred anyway, I'd have taken my bag and coat and wallet and book and gone out to do whatever I liked. Maybe I'd have answered his phonecalls meybe not. If I had still a place of my own I'd have gone there, and felt like the princess that I am. I'd have gone to work the next day, for a drink after with friend or for a movie alone and I'd have bene serene and content thinking 'your loss mate!!'

the reality is quite saddening as I start to feel chained and restricted, which is not a good sign. I feel the tiger part of myself needs to come out again. I am at times too nice.

hotHELL · 05/11/2007 10:46

You need to establish some precise boundaries, no piss taking.

hotHELL · 05/11/2007 11:16

hothell goes off to wash the kitchen floor....

PippiCalzelunghe · 05/11/2007 13:44

doctor has signed me off for a week. said I am too stressed and tense, hence cramps and dizziness. should take it easy and relax, which I will do. got 3 movies out, 'thank you for smoking' being one. thanks franca.
Dh was all sorry and sheepich over the phone.

I am doing no housework at all, maybe risotto later, or lasagne.

PippiCalzelunghe · 05/11/2007 13:44

oh and we will def have a 'big talk' asap.

hotHELL · 05/11/2007 13:54

do you still have spotting pippi? i remember having it with ds' pregnancy and getting paranoid.

great being at home for you, to relax.

i am making gorgonzola and spinach frittata tonight!

is the stress about things that don't get
done at home or is it that you are constantly running around?

di chi e' Thank you for not smoking?

francagoestohollywood · 05/11/2007 14:10

thank you FOR smoking. I really liked it. Yesterday I watched sunset boulevard which for some reasons I had never seen before.
Absolutely agree with pippi 10.21 post.

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PippiCalzelunghe · 05/11/2007 14:15

no no spotting at all hothell. I'd panic big big time if I got that.

it's the stress of both I think - running around and not having a break at home either. having to travel all the way to the other side of london, always in a rush to pick up DD and eat and put her to bed and do it again tomorrow and then comes the weekend and having an hour on mu own seems like asking for the moon (not always really but if we both are over stressed it's tough).

now of course would you believe it, I was looking fowards of this week on my own own and seems like dd has got temp and so she'll be home too. if that's the case I think I'll have a nervous breakdown. seriously.

don't know anything about the movie, franca mentioned it and I trusted her.

PippiCalzelunghe · 05/11/2007 14:20

PS: do not think i am a sad case pls. I am quite ceerful and happy. i'm just tired and feel need sometime on my own. I am becoming a shadow of what I used to be. maybe dh feels the same.

franca I meant to ask is dh going to look after the dc on his own when you are here? has it done it before?
see dh is perfectly capable. I know I should do it before no 2 comes.

Ellbell · 05/11/2007 14:27

Pippi, what childcare do you have? I've just had to change childminders and my dds now go to one who gives them tea when she picks them up from school (very early in my book - 4.30 - but that's when all the others eat so they are joining in). At first I felt unsure about it. I like being in control of what they eat [control freak emoticon]. But she cooks good, homemade food for them with plenty of fruit and veg, and tbh it has revolutionised our evenings. I am now able to spend some time with them when I pick them up, just chatting or playing or whatever, instead of it just being home, cook, eat, homework, bath and bed like a sort of production line. It's worth considering anything that will make your life easier.

Looks like I may not need to go to Italy now. For once, I would be glad of the excuse not to be there.

PippiCalzelunghe · 05/11/2007 14:36

ellbell yes I think this is the one trip to italy you would not want to do. again.

new childminder is brilliant. cooks lots of lovely homemmade greek food. better than I would. also very good as dd seems to be poorly today but she has not rushed to ask me to pick her up. yet. same as you not too sure of eating at 5. but makes life easier. no the eating bit was for dh and I.

I don't like doing nothing so I thing is my fault for overdoing it and for not being slightly more high maintenace at times. if you don't ask you don't get.

francagoestohollywood · 05/11/2007 14:39

Pippi you feel exactly how I feel. How dh and I feel. And I don't even work, or at least I certainly don't need to commute hours when I have my translations.
It is relentless and until one year ago we were more or less always just the 4 of us. Long weekends of us, inside, because outside it's raining. And begging dh because the children've been unwell for 1 week and I desperately need one morning off to feel like a human being again...
Yes, dh is looking after the children for the weekend. But he's going to cambridge on thurs and fri, so we're even

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PippiCalzelunghe · 05/11/2007 14:51

i am sure things will be better and easier back in milan franca. because you'll have the support of family and friends. see, if mums or dads were available we could both have 'our' weekend and time off. an hour here an hour there. they'll be happy, woud not be too much (like when dd goes to MIL who's 71 and on her own for an entire weekend) you could go to the gym, to a movie, read the papers, have a nap even!! ATM everything is a big palaver and doing something for yourself means overloading the other partner so you (both in fairness) end up doing nothing for not asking too much of the other person. i'd love having a weekend on my own but dd works all week, I think he is entitled to a bit of rest. and he never ever goes anywhere, once a week for a drink with his mate. it is hard to do it all on your own at times.
like DD being ill... I am scared I'll cry myself out if she'll share this week off with me. and I feel bad as it's not her fault for being ill, bless. this is the one reason I'd love to go home.

ups, baby is moving. this one is very active... poor pippi when he/she's out!!

hotHELL · 05/11/2007 14:56

Pippi, could you decrease your work, like do it part-time? Might not be possible financially that I can understand...Or take some leave here and then to have time off...Or go on sickness leave and get them to pay you to look after yourself. Or can dh come home earlier on certain days to do dd pickup, etc?
I couldn't work full time and would go mad, but our mortgage is tiny, and we live on a tight tight budget. I just need time to myself, otherwise I want to die!
Having said that a translation has come through, so have to get going.